had a quick search didnt find what i was after,
what springs/shock combo should i use on a tjs2 vrx?

want it as low as possible but still usable,

was thinking super low front king springs and maybe low rears (seems to be the lowest rears i can find)
opions / pics of lowered tj vrx setups will be apreciated. will be on standard s2 vrx wheels

If you want it usable I'd be reluctant to go any lower than King Lows.

You've seen my car - it's on Lows all round. I've got some pics with it on the original 17" wheels earlier in my member's machine thread (link in signature).

If you want it usable I'd be reluctant to go any lower than King Lows.

You've seen my car - it's on Lows all round. I've got some pics with it on the original 17" wheels earlier in my member's machine thread (link in signature).

i would like it a little lower then that. maybe 0.5-10mm lower? how much lower is the super low front? problem is the back would have to be a little bit lower then low rears to keep it level

What do you count as usable? My car is around 60mm drop front and rear on ralliart bodykit and i drive it daily but if driveways look crap i park out the front.

What do you count as usable? My car is around 60mm drop front and rear on ralliart bodykit and i drive it daily but if driveways look crap i park out the front.
are you using coil-overs?

drive able i mean able to get over a speed bump , and average drive ways

If you learn to drive low you can go more aggressive then king lows otherwise king lows are the way to go so you can relax and not worry about hitting stuff. Yep i have coilovers.

what brand did you go with? what was the cost?

if i go with a spring and shock combo what shocks should i go for? midrange price?

one other question is im guessing lows would allready make it under 100mm lowest body height?

has anyone on here used xyz coilovers? lowering will be mainly for increased handling (less bodyroll) and just street use. no ridge racer setup :P lowering is mainly for looks

My drop the lowest point of the car is 110mm. Do a search on coilovers for magna on here or Google.

seemed to only come up with xyz and ksport, (dont want to spend a fortune)

What is xyz???

one other question is im guessing lows would allready make it under 100mm lowest body height?
With Lows, the lowest point of my car (the cap at the very front of the side skirts) is around 100mm off the ground.

I scrape out of my driveway, say, 1/5th of the time, so I'd constitute my car to be as low as practical lol I haven't found a driveway I haven't been able to make it up, but I take a lot of driveways very, very carefully....

Lows are the most useable without getting to the point where you lose your suspension travel and end up with a car in a couple of years with no bushes left, defect notices etc etc

The law states that not only do you have to retain 100mm clearance LOADED but you also are not allowed to reduce suspension travel by more than 1/3

In my opinion the best combo for a street car is Boge (now called Sachs) with Dobinson Lows, if you have a few more $$ then Koni

Please dont fall into this elcheapo trap as you will regret it later on, in simple terms if you can not afford to lower the car properly now leave it until you can

hey mal, whats a dobinson low with bodge shocks combo worth?
will that give it a 40mm drop all round compared to the standard vrx springs?

the vrx has blueish green springs in the rear, is that lowells?

XYZ are from the same factory as D2 coilovers..

KSport
Pedders
Kido
XYZ
D2

These brands make coilovers for the Diamanté/Magna/Verada.

Depending on what you're chasing will dictate whether or not coilovers suit your requirements.

From what your said.. For handling.. Coilovers are GREAT!

Choosing a set up that doesn't effect your driveability is the next thing, which is spring rates and dampener spec.

If you dont want something extremely rigid. Mal is onto it with the Sachs n Lovells combo.

SuFz

seemed to only come up with xyz and ksport, (dont want to spend a fortune)

Speak to Sufz - Kido coilovers can be at your door for less then $1000, by the time you spend money on shocks, springs, and bumpstops you're well over that anyway.

Yes either Kido coilovers (if thats what you want) Or lows with BOGE or KONI shocks.. dont settle for crappy brands as it will cost you more in the long haul.

are the kido coil overs any good? the reason i was considering cheaper coil overs is that its allmost the same price as a good spring shock setup but more controllable, if its to low i could change it.

are the kido coil overs any good? the reason i was considering cheaper coil overs is that its allmost the same price as a good spring shock setup but more controllable, if its to low i could change it.

I have no personal experience but from the overall opinion of what I have seen on AMC they have gone down pretty well so far... they handle really well (obviously)... although the test of time is the one thing im not completely sure of. The upside of a BOGE/Dobinson/Kings or similar setup is you know what you are getting.

Speak to Sufz - Kido coilovers can be at your door for less then $1000, by the time you spend money on shocks, springs, and bumpstops you're well over that anyway.

Really Dean, based on what exactly.........

Everyone knows my views on Coilovers for street use so will not go into this yet again, from both personal experience as well as the experience from many people who deal daily in suspension I would go eiher Boge or Koni with Dobinsons. Yes Koni will push the bill over 1k but then again you can not compare Koni with some Chinese made cheapo coil overs

Don't see why anyone would have an attitude that is negative in any way towards kidos . They are comfy as hell unless you drive on rocky roads and the performance aspect is awesome.

mal can you pm me what a set of boge and dobinsons would set me back, need to know what im in for.

thanks for the helps fellas

coilovers would be nice but i just got a quote back for the xyz and fitting and i was looking at 1700 at F1

needs to be under 1K

Don't see why anyone would have an attitude that is negative in any way towards kidos . They are comfy as hell unless you drive on rocky roads and the performance aspect is awesome.

Quite simple really, my "attitude" is not towards any particular brand of coil over, it is towards ALL coil overs used on street cars. They are not designed for street every day use, you will get a fraction of the life compared to a normal damer jsut for starters

Think about it, why do you think they are illegal for street use, why do most of the people that know about suspension (no I am not talking about a bunch of blokes on a forum) not recommend them for street use, dont you think that if they were so shit hot that Koni would make them..........even for crapodores etc.......

Again, there is no comparison in so far as quality goes to Koni or even Boge and that is just for starters. I remember when Hotbits were all the rage, 3 years on most of them are in the bin as the dampers have died

I dissagree, Coilovers are becoming a much more common aftermarket suspension and not all have short lifespans, my mate has a set of s13 coilovers in his r31 and they are good as new after 3 years of use. Obviously they won't last as long without rebuilds but for many members of this forum who enjoy spirited driving including myself i have found the risk of less life out of the suspension is something that is greatly overshadowed by the way the car feels now and the ability to choose whatever height i like.

Well we will have to agree to disagree, personally I will listen to both the experts in high end suspension set ups as well as my knowledge in mechanical items over a bunch of guys in Magna's who (and please understand that I do not mean any offense at all here) have not really had any experience in high end suspension set up cars.

As I have stated in the past, coil overs are great on a track where your good quality ones can adjust many factors of how they work, most of the cheap ones are simply a means of joe blo to lower his car to hetik levels and then be able to quickly raise it back up when officer plod dicks him.

I will happily challenge any car on a track in my wagon with my Koni and Dobinsons over any of these Kido or KSport and remember that I dont have IRS

Anyway, moving on, for those who want a cheap set up, get the coil overs by all means, for those who want a proper and serious suspension set up spend a few $$ and get something decent

I had the orgasmic pleasure of driving Fooz's 380 today and yesterday and I'm seriously considering coil overs... They ride a lot better then i thought they would and made his car feel like a go kart.....

i will happily challenge any car on a track in my wagon with my koni and dobinsons over any of these kido or ksport and remember that i dont have irs

lo .......

I've driven Sufz's GTVi with Kido coilovers... it really does handle like a go-cart... steering is uber quick (no typical Magna dead spot), and there's no body roll. It really makes my car feel like a boat - I couldn't get over the improvement over my car on Lows/KYBs.

While his coilovers ride better than what I thought they would, they're too firm for me. If I keep my car long enough I'll go custom springs + Konis next.

Also, since we're on the topic of lifespan, QMD//801 replaced the struts in his KSport coilovers at the last workshop day. He said he got 90,000km out of them.

If he got 90,000 out of ksports thats pretty bloody good! I'd be happy with 50,000

what do the k sports retail for?

$1800 but i think megatron can do them for $1600. You need to get ksport to fit them though or it voids warranty, which is complate crap and i think is illegal. So Ksport can EADC

budget will be 1k =[

Kidos it is!

are coil overs illegal in qld?

As far as i can tell there is no advatnage to ksports over Kidos anyway.. Apart from the fact that Kidos come from overseas which can be annoying for warranty but nobody has had an issue with that yet.

are coil overs illegal in qld?
I haven't seen anything that indicates that coilovers themselves are illegal.

Coilovers are rebuildable..

You can replace the dampener in them.. And the great part is.. They all use a VERY similar insert..

So.. Be it KSport or Kido or XYZ.. Whatever you choose.. Ask what size dampener insert they use and what options they have with regards to the spec of the dampener.. Eg. street, track, race etc.

But one thing to remember.. They're rigid.. So if that's NOT what you're looking for.. Sachs & Dobinson/Lovells/Kings are also a great option..

Now Mal.. I love ya mate.. But I reckon there's a few people that would LOVE to take you up on that offer.. Haha.. Me included and I'm no track monkey either..

AND Red Valdez.. It's a GTV NOT a GTVi..

SuFz

Ksport are $1250 when purchased in a lot of 5 sets so at rrp or even $1650 someone is making a killing. they as a company are crap to deal with, very unresponsive to enquiries, don't honor quoted prices and this warranty thing is totally illegal. Add to this they barely speak English so trying to get an answer from them about specs is near impossible.

As for my wagon, many have seen how it corners lol, added to the fact it is smooth, does not rip your ack on every bump, I know what I will stick with lol

This is why I'm happy old mate from Kido spoke great English.

We'll tee it up Mal.. Might not be tomorrow.. But bro.. We're havin at it.. Track time here we go..

SuFz

LO I'm with Sufz sounds like an awesome track day :)

I've also never had a problem with Frank at K-Sport & all my dealings have been awesome & have found him very helpful. Also don't have a problem understanding him when we have spoke on the phone.

K-Sport FTW :P

I have been in multiple Magnas, low, super low and k sport and kido. Go coilovers mate. They are not a great deal more (Kido) and are fantastic as Red Valdez said about SuFz car, I have been in it too it is great.

Matt, I had King springs on the VRX a few years ago, but the mrs didn't like the feel so i removed them. Me, I preferred them and missed having them on the car. Will be good to see it lowered again.
On the XRT I'm running King SL with Koni Shocks rather than go coilovers as the ride would not be suitable for the family as a daily driver. If i didn't have the car 'as a family car' then that wld be a different matter, so go with what you want for what purpose you want the car for, but be aware coilovers will cause more stress on other areas of the car depending upon 'how' it's driven of course.

Now you have had first hand experience of how well my car rides with the setup I have, although it won't be as good as coilovers round corners on a track, it works perfectly for the road without being too harsh on the mrs and kiddies rear ends haha!

Either way looking forward to seeing how it all looks and rides. Go for it! :thumbsup: