Just need some thoughts on some good coil overs or suspension out there for the TJ VRX?? seen as i will be having a bit of weight in the back from the sound system.. I will need to make sure i upgrade my suspension so it doesn't look odd or drag..

Other thing is that are there any quick mods to get that extra bit of power as well? Air intake has already been done.. however id like to get a cold air intake done however i have been told it can only be done on the Manual versions??

http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=403&category_id=339&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

Last thing is that i need to know the specs on the stock alternator? As i need to get a bigger one made to handle all the extra power I will be pumping through the car?

Thanks

Sufz is currently doing a group buy of Kido coilovers. It's in the For Sale section.

If you want to stick with regular springs, I'd consider something like King Lows in the front (approx 45mm drop from base) and King Low SPs in the rear (approx 30mm drop from base).

You should do a search for modifications, because it's a topic that's been discussed in depth multiple times. For example, cold air intakes are often discussed, and the outcome is always that they aren't worth it for performance.

CAI/Air Intake

If you like induction noise..

If you dont mind the minor 'decrease' in performance due to intake temps..

They're BRILLIANT and I have one on my AUTO Verada.. (All for the noise!)

If you want performance.. Unfortunately.. They're a waste of time.

Suspension

Coilovers
- Adjustable Height
- Adjustable Dampener Stiffness
- Adjustable Strut Tops
- Pillow Ball Tops
- Some people say they arent for street driving..
- I LOVE THEM..

Koni/Dobinson Combo
- Other than being slightly pricey, this is supposedly a GREAT combination, if not going coilovers
- The Koni adjustables have the option to be soft and comfy, or hard and RACE CAR like

The decision at the end of the day is yours..

CAI
- Great for noise - not so much for performance
- There's a place on Facebook that has a CAI Kit for much cheaper.. If you want it, send me a PM and I'll see if I can find the link for you.
- Its basically a copy of the RPW Kit, but cheaper.

Suspension
- If you want that stiff feel, with minimal body roll - Coilovers are great!
- $917 (Coilovers) or $1200 (Koni/Dobinson Combo)

SuFz :ninja:

$2000 for Koni and Dobinsons, where did you get that price from, must have a great imagination

Koni and Dobinsons will set you back $1120 but far superior quality to a set of chinese made coil overs, so you can not adjust height, so what i really can see members each weekend getting under their cars adjusting heights and add to this a set of Koni will far outlast a set of coil overs thus why so many euro cars use them as OEM suspension

Koni and Dobinsons will set you back $1120
Is that Koni Yellows or Reds?

Thats what I was quoted, prior to searching for coilovers, from a supposed reputable supplier.

SuFz :ninja:

Ok great thanks for all your input guys.. Will stick with the air intake i already have and focus on the suspension... to be honest i dont like body roll so the race car feel is the way to go for me... How do i get myself some some of the Kido Coil overs and im guessing if i like that stiff feel race spec is the way to go yeah? Is there much difference between the street and race spec?

Race Spec is STRICTLY for race cars..

It is RIDICULOUSLY solid with an unforgiving nature.

I would recommend Street Spec and if you like the "race car" rigid feel - 10/8kg springs.

If you're keen.. Check out the FS section and post up in there registering yourself and I'll add you to the list.

SuFz :ninja:

Whats the difference between 10/8kg and 12/10kg? rear has to be able to handle all that extra weight from the boot install without sagging

Standard they come with 8/6kg, so 10/8kg will be PLENTY for the boot install.

SuFz :ninja:

$2000 for Koni and Dobinsons, where did you get that price from, must have a great imagination

Koni and Dobinsons will set you back $1120 but far superior quality to a set of chinese made coil overs, so you can not adjust height, so what i really can see members each weekend getting under their cars adjusting heights and add to this a set of Koni will far outlast a set of coil overs thus why so many euro cars use them as OEM suspension

1. They are not from China they are from Taiwan.. Oh yeah and my main point of supply evidence when you claim parts of my car are bad quality? CHEERS

China or Taiwan, who cares, my point is that you pay peanuts and you get monkeys, if these were $1600 then no one would have them at all as a lot of ppl on these forums simply do not understand the simple fact that cheap is cheap and you dont get quality for bugger all

My other point was that price quoted was way off and you can not compare a set of 2c coil overs which are gst free imports over a company like Koni with the reputation of Koni, if you think you can compare these 2 products then you are playing with yourself

Hey SuFz, what other brands of Coilovers are made in the factory that Kido comes from?

XYZ
BC
D2

I'm not having a go.. I just got told off for not having tried and tested an item, instead going off what people said. Which makes sense.. So I thought I would hand it back to ya?

Mal knows I'm not being a pr!ck.. He's a good mate and he'll understand what I mean.

SuFz :ninja:

When it comes to these Kido coilovers vs. Koni suspension - it's a matter of being a guinea pig with a mostly unheard of Brand, or assurance from a very reputable and respected brand that's been proven to be high quality.

Personally, if I was spending near $1000 for suspension alone, I'd want to ensure that the product I am buying is made to last. There is no doubt whatsoever that a koni shock + suspension setup will. It's a tried and tested design & setup. You can't beat that. Yes, it's not so adjustable, but at the end of the day that kind of luxury comes at a cost. Not to mention comfort and also longevity. (Coilovers need to be rebuilt fairly often vs. lifetime guaranteed shocks + suspension)

With this new and very low priced entrant to the market, you really have to be ready to put your money on the line. I certainly don't like to be a guinea pig, I'd rather learn off others experiences (or misfortune).

What stereo are you fitting that you think will require an alternator upgrade? The stock Magna alt is 108A, beefy as hell.

What stereo are you fitting that you think will require an alternator upgrade? The stock Magna alt is 108A, beefy as hell.

Funny you should say that..

I've got my car doing the doof doof light show at the moment..

Tested my alternator and alls peachy..

SuFz

I have to confess that I'm pretty skeptical towards coilovers. But in recent weeks, I've been Pete's Ralliart (KSports), Sufz's Verada (Kidos) and Rob's 380 (KSports) and have been very impressed at how the coilovers have handled. I was also quite amazed at the ride - yes, it was stiff, but for a superlow car on 20" rims, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as what I was expecting.

Yes, the lifespan of the Kidos is a question that is left unanswered, but given that Pete got 90k out of his KSports and Simon got 120k (note that these cars are very low and are driven hard), I think they should be OK.

Coilovers aren't for everyone, but if you're looking at spending a grand or more on suspension, they're definitely worth considering. If you're keen, see if you have a local AMC member who will take you for a spin. I wouldn't discount them until you have experienced them.

Hence the question I asked..

If you haven't tried and tested them.. Can you comment and can it carry any weight..?

My old charade had Konis & Eibachs..
My old TF had Konis n Kings..
My KJ has Kidos..

I think I've had my fair share of experience..

SuFz

I've had:
Pedders, Monroe
Kings, KYB
Kings, Boge
Dobinsons, Boge
and now K-Sport
And for me, the K-Sports have been the better combo for my style of driving.

Well if you guys want them I am not saying don't get them but I am simply stating you can not compare Koni to kido, totally different product and quality.

I have read mixed reviews and FYI there is an admin team, is a group buy and was clear do your own investigating

I have deleted all the usual half assed comments, when someone with even a sceric of real experience in suspension pipes up perhaps I will listen, I am not arrogant, I simply have over the last 20 odd years seen too many of these sorts of things come and go, to those who think I am arrogant don't bother askingvfor my advice in the future as my arrogance will simply cause me to ignore you.....

I've had:
Pedders, Monroe
Kings, KYB
Kings, Boge
Dobinsons, Boge
and now K-Sport
And for me, the K-Sports have been the better combo for my style of driving.

An informed comment with experience on both sides..

Kudos! Or shall I say Kidos!

SuFz

I have seen so many good quality coil overs with many issues so I talk firm experience. A 2 week old set is fine, give them 18 months. Look at SAMs beilstien coil overs, have had more rebuilds in 4 years than some have has gearboxes.....:)

Again a top quality product being used or wrong reason

What stereo are you fitting that you think will require an alternator upgrade? The stock Magna alt is 108A, beefy as hell.

That's 100% right mate.
The stock wiring trough the rest of the can't handle anymore amps from the alternator.
My advice ( take it or leave it ) is 0 or 00 gauge wiring, upgrade battery terminalc clamps,
Top end battery like a yellow top, a capacitor that's 1 farid to every 1000w:happy:rms,
and a good size earth is NOT over kill.:nuts: That's about all you can do.

Back to the OP..

danny86 posted in here stating that he will be getting a set in the group buy..

Thomas did too..

As did others.. The reason I say this..

All of these people have been in my car..
Either taken it for a drive or have been driven in it..

They've all created their own opinions and made their own decisions..

Which is why I say.. Make an informed decision..

You asked the question and got many many differing opinions..

Good luck!

SuFz

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That's 100% right mate.
The stock wiring trough the rest of the can't handle anymore amps from the alternator.
My advice ( take it or leave it ) is 0 or 00 gauge wiring, upgrade battery terminalc clamps,
Top end battery like a yellow top, a capacitor that's 1 farid to every 1000w:happy:rms,
and a good size earth is NOT over kill.:nuts: That's about all you can do.

I wouldn't bother with crapacitors. Wiring size depends on the power he plans on running, I've done and install with 8 0ga pos and 8 0ga neg runs before.

Can you get D2 for TJ Magna? I used to have full D2 brakes and coil overs on my civic and loved them!

I'm unsure if they make a setup for the Magna..

FYI.. Kido come out of the same factory as D2.. :)

SuFz :ninja:

Other reason i say D2 is because one of the colours for the memorial car is Purple lol.. but yeah looks like i will just go for the Kido but will first have to save up some funds.

I just made a quick call to Taiwan, because I'm a stand up guy and the coilovers can't be anodized a different colour, but the brake kits can be done in purple.

SuFz :ninja:

I just made a quick call to Taiwan, because I'm a stand up guy and the coilovers can't be anodized a different colour, but the brake kits can be done in purple.

SuFz :ninja:


Oh thanks for that mate.. for now i just need coil overs and will get brakes when i do my supercharger conversion.

Oh thanks for that mate.. for now i just need coil overs and will get brakes when i do my supercharger conversion.

No dramas mate.

Thought I'd ask them to see if they could do a favour for ya.

SuFz :ninja:

just saying . . .Ksports FTW - track tested and proven lap times

Both Mal and Sufz have made some good points there, having driven cars with both kiddos and koni's i would suggest going the kiddos.

As for the people putting the kiddos down though, you need to ask them, have you seen these, have you used them? Please dont make a judgement until you have

:)