steve_bunkle
26-08-2012, 06:21 PM
We have recently acquired a Hyundai i40 tourer diesel as our main family car. We have a 2007 380 GT as our second car. I thought it would be interested to comment on how the 380 stacks up to a new design. Remember these are just my opinions after driving both and obviously one is a large capacity petrol and the diesel is very small (1.7l).
1) price and equipment. About the same in terms of RRP (our i40 is the premium variant, I guess the equivalent of the GT). 380 would have been discounted more. In terms of equipment, the i40 wins hands down but then that is the story with new models - more equipment each year for much the same price. Clearly buying second hand the 380 is great value.
2) engine. i40 1.7l common rail turbocharged diesel with particulate filter. 100kw and 320nm. 380 175kw (nearly 180 with galant intake) and 343nm. Amazing torque for capacity in the diesel. Also quite smooth but the 380 is still overall the smoother reving engine (as expected).
3) performance. 380 wins hands down. 0-100 low 8s in the GT, about 10.5 in the i40. Ability to hold highway speeds very similar, the GT will often downchange to 4th on steeper hills, the i40 to 5th. Overtaking in the 380s favour, but the i40 not as slow as you would expect - rolling acceleration is surprising.
4) economy. 380 - we get about 12l/100km around town, mid 8s on highway. i40 about 7l/100km around town, 5 on the highway (verified). i40 wins here
5) running costs. 380 wins hands down. The design is relatively simple, cheaper to fix and second parts are available. Second hand engines also cost effective. Servicing can be done at home. i40 has the potential to cost a lot down the track. Turbos, injector pumps, particulate filters. Servicing more expensive, even at home.
6) build quality. Exterior and and paint about even. 380s interior not as well put together.
7) steering, ride and handling. 380 has more feel and is overall a better steering car. The i40 is great compared to old Hyundai designs but there is still work to do. Ride is similar but the i40 has less front suspension travel for the bigger bumps. Handling again in the 380s favour. Less under steer, less body roll. One of the 380s strong points.
8) refinement and comfort. i40 the winner. Quieter, better insulated (not by a lot). I can also get a more comfy position in the i40 as the steering has reach adjustment as well. Again not a lot in it and I would be happy to drive long distances in either car. Hyundai have made great strides in this area. Heated and air conditioned seats also help.
9) space. Similar room in the front although right foot can catch in the footwell in the i40. i40 has more rear legroom but a narrower back seat. Obviously can't fairly compare a wagon to a sedan in terms of luggage space.
10) safety. i40 five stars, 9 airbags, stability control. A 2011 380 would have likely had similar specs but clearly the i40 wins here.
11) headlights. i40 premium has HIDs but the 380s lights are still a lot better! That is an Aussie car thing I think - great headlights.
Just a few thoughts. As you can see, with back to back driving, the 380 still performs very well against newer designs! A second generation 380 would have been a fantastic car! I still love ours but usually reach for the i40s keys for longer trips knowing we can get down to 5l per 100kms.
Steve
1) price and equipment. About the same in terms of RRP (our i40 is the premium variant, I guess the equivalent of the GT). 380 would have been discounted more. In terms of equipment, the i40 wins hands down but then that is the story with new models - more equipment each year for much the same price. Clearly buying second hand the 380 is great value.
2) engine. i40 1.7l common rail turbocharged diesel with particulate filter. 100kw and 320nm. 380 175kw (nearly 180 with galant intake) and 343nm. Amazing torque for capacity in the diesel. Also quite smooth but the 380 is still overall the smoother reving engine (as expected).
3) performance. 380 wins hands down. 0-100 low 8s in the GT, about 10.5 in the i40. Ability to hold highway speeds very similar, the GT will often downchange to 4th on steeper hills, the i40 to 5th. Overtaking in the 380s favour, but the i40 not as slow as you would expect - rolling acceleration is surprising.
4) economy. 380 - we get about 12l/100km around town, mid 8s on highway. i40 about 7l/100km around town, 5 on the highway (verified). i40 wins here
5) running costs. 380 wins hands down. The design is relatively simple, cheaper to fix and second parts are available. Second hand engines also cost effective. Servicing can be done at home. i40 has the potential to cost a lot down the track. Turbos, injector pumps, particulate filters. Servicing more expensive, even at home.
6) build quality. Exterior and and paint about even. 380s interior not as well put together.
7) steering, ride and handling. 380 has more feel and is overall a better steering car. The i40 is great compared to old Hyundai designs but there is still work to do. Ride is similar but the i40 has less front suspension travel for the bigger bumps. Handling again in the 380s favour. Less under steer, less body roll. One of the 380s strong points.
8) refinement and comfort. i40 the winner. Quieter, better insulated (not by a lot). I can also get a more comfy position in the i40 as the steering has reach adjustment as well. Again not a lot in it and I would be happy to drive long distances in either car. Hyundai have made great strides in this area. Heated and air conditioned seats also help.
9) space. Similar room in the front although right foot can catch in the footwell in the i40. i40 has more rear legroom but a narrower back seat. Obviously can't fairly compare a wagon to a sedan in terms of luggage space.
10) safety. i40 five stars, 9 airbags, stability control. A 2011 380 would have likely had similar specs but clearly the i40 wins here.
11) headlights. i40 premium has HIDs but the 380s lights are still a lot better! That is an Aussie car thing I think - great headlights.
Just a few thoughts. As you can see, with back to back driving, the 380 still performs very well against newer designs! A second generation 380 would have been a fantastic car! I still love ours but usually reach for the i40s keys for longer trips knowing we can get down to 5l per 100kms.
Steve