have been looking at brake upgrades and wanted all the info as to exactly what does and doesnt fit. i hav read lots of things saying that different ones from lancers etc will fit.
i know the most common upgrade is the 380 brakes but wanted to know what other options there are as if i used lancer ones there may be more options for perfomance calipers than the 380 or possibly cheaper replacemnt discs and pads as more common parts i really dunno what options there are and how much each one would cost and what would be best vs best value etc.. i currently have 18x8 wheels so clearence on almost anything wouldnt be an issue.

Lancer brakes aren't anything to write home about. It's only Evo brakes that are worthy of your attention.

Late model Evo brakes probably wouldn't fit behind your rims, even though they're 18".

Best bang for buck would still be the 380 upgrade imo.

380 kit ready to bolt on will set you back $325. Best bang for bucks when it comes to brakes. Are bolt on drive away and suit the magna well

Mal, is that price for front end only or both front and back? i kniw most seem to go for front o ly, is that because theres no benefit in doing rears as well?

Rears don't fit

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thanks - so whats holding back? Not rims i guess, is it hubs or suspension? sorry, im no mechanic... cheers

That back is only really responsible for around 10-20% of your braking. Naturally, the car will shift the weight forward when braking, moreso when you have a fwd car with a light backend due to no diff/tailshaft/driveshafts etc.

The only reason it'd be a good idea to upgrade the back brakes is you're often towing large loads, have an awd (again still not necessary as stock is more than adequate) or are so fussy that you want to match the look at the front with the back wheels. 95% of the owners on this forum could easily get away with only upgrading their front brakes.

OP - you can also fit awd brakes if you have 16" or bigger wheels, but once you buy the disks, calipers, pads and lines it'll amount to the cost of a 380 brake upgrade.

That being said - do you need any better braking? The stock setup with good pads (QFM HPX) and freshly flushed fluid can still lock up the wheels which means they reach their maximum ability to slow the car down. Unless you're using your car in a manner where you need the wheels to lock up earlier and/or survive harder usage (mt driving, racing etc) then you could probably get away with a nice pad upgrade, proper fluid flush and replacing or re-machining rotors.

The stock setup with good pads (QFM HPX) and freshly flushed fluid can still lock up the wheels which means they reach their maximum ability to slow the car down.
More area in terms of the rotors/pads makes it harder for the brakes to lock up, which is why bigger brakes are the best upgrade you can do and why lots of engineers insist on a big brake kit if you add more than 100% power. Just because your brakes lock doesn't mean they're good enough - if anything it indicates that you need more braking area.

Ralliart/AWD rears fit standard magnas, don't they? That'd be good combined with 380 fronts.

Otherwise, you can grab front evo brembos from the uk with rotors+pads for under 500 quid, probably shipped.

More area in terms of the rotors/pads makes it harder for the brakes to lock up, which is why bigger brakes are the best upgrade you can do and why lots of engineers insist on a big brake kit if you add more than 100% power. Just because your brakes lock doesn't mean they're good enough - if anything it indicates that you need more braking area.

Ralliart/AWD rears fit standard magnas, don't they? That'd be good combined with 380 fronts.

Otherwise, you can grab front evo brembos from the uk with rotors+pads for under 500 quid, probably shipped.

No. If you can trigger ABS with stock brakes, you have reached the limit of grip for the tyres. No amount of brakes will change that.

Larger brakes however offer a better pedal feel and resistance to fade from repeated hard stopping.

No. If you can trigger ABS with stock brakes, you have reached the limit of grip for the tyres. No amount of brakes will change that.
It's not hard to lock up 225 semi-slicks with standard honda brakes, so why would Spoon insist that you upgrade the brakes before anything else?

Bigger discs are quicker to lock the tyres and yet harder to lock in the first place due to leverage and torque. All other factors being the same, larger rotors+pads will drop stopping distance by a measurable amount even if the standard brakes can overpower the tyres.

It's not hard to lock up 225 semi-slicks with standard honda brakes, so why would Spoon insist that you upgrade the brakes before anything else?

Bigger discs are quicker to lock the tyres and yet harder to lock in the first place due to leverage and torque. All other factors being the same, larger rotors+pads will drop stopping distance by a measurable amount even if the standard brakes can overpower the tyres.

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Mattvr-x the point of upgrading brakes is more for prelonged performance, while stock brakes can hit abs on good tyres, they'll only do it once.

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That being said Hayden - you could just fit up ventilated disks and you'd increase your ability to brake hard for 'prolonged performance' without brake fade.

Yeah but it would never be the same. The surface area of pad to rotor is also essential.

Oh FFS will the "experts" please go back to the commodore forums and leave us alone

Upgrading brakes is not about bouncing abs FFS or locking up, is about more control and more braking ability when used under heavy driving situations, upgrading brakes does not make someone a spoon, makes tem smart while the spoons are fading brakes


This also just in, magna fronts are vented, rears well if you get them that hot learn how to drive and stick to push bikes until you o