Hay guys

I'm in the mix of looking for a clutch and my options. Wat modifications do I have to make to the flywheel to make the evo clutch fit I heard u have to put some kind of step on the flywheel? And also the bolt holes have to the enlarged on the Evo pressure plate because they don't line up or something? And also the pressure plate running on the box? Not shore Wat clutch to get seems like abit of ****ing around with the evo clutch. Just not shore if the magna HD clutch will hold up.

Cheers kurt

HD clutch will be fine if you are kind to it. Oh wait...its kurt...

its not the clutch that is the problem its your style of driving, plenty of magnas getting around with twice the power and have no clutch issues

True I do have a heavy foot lol. But yeh I'm not as bad as Wat I used to be. Mabey evo clutch?

just an update on the 3.8l performance did some 0-100 test comparing to my old 3.5l. My best time in the 3.5l was 0-100km in 5.7-5.8 seconds. 3.8l today 5.1-5.2 seconds with only slightly more than half throttle in 1st gear to 4500rpm because of the traction issue. I am bloody amazed by these times.

just an update on the 3.8l performance did some 0-100 test comparing to my old 3.5l. My best time in the 3.5l was 0-100km in 5.7-5.8 seconds. 3.8l today 5.1-5.2 seconds with only slightly more than half throttle in 1st gear to 4500rpm because of the traction issue. I am bloody amazed by these times.

What are you using for timing

Wow that's about the same times as an Audi S8 5.2 FSI v10 quattro..(the lambo engined one)
A quite unbelievable figure....

Yeah, how are you measuring this kurt? love the idea of being able too smash clubsports and F6's in a magna. Hahaha.

5 seconds LOL, youll have no problems beating evos and clubbys now!

To keep this on topic, an exedy HD clutch will do you fine. Unless you drive more aggressively then Dean... Which is impossible.

Remember guys xr6 turbos do 0-100 in 5 seconds and do mid 13 second quaters. The car feels on par with a mid 13 quater. I've used a couple of of devices just the simple stopwatch then Gtech and my in car monitor. It's dam quick

5 seconds LOL, youll have no problems beating evos and clubbys now!

To keep this on topic, an exedy HD clutch will do you fine. Unless you drive more aggressively then Dean... Which is impossible.

I was actually on par with a stock evo in my 3.5 at willow bank.

Remember guys xr6 turbos do 0-100 in 5 seconds and do mid 13 second quaters. The car feels on par with a mid 13 quater. I've used a couple of of devices just the simple stopwatch then Gtech and my in car monitor. It's dam quick

The track you do your quarters at is inaccurate by about 0.4 seconds. Come down to wsid the most accurate strip around and see what u run. I guarantee the best you'll get is over 13.9
You should be comparing magna with magna. Track with track.

Wow wonce you get that slipping clutche fixed & som good tires for tracshion you shood bee around teh 4 secunds mark :D

Wow wonce you get that slipping clutche fixed & som good tires for tracshion you shood bee around teh 4 secunds mark :D

Lol I wish. But ill definatly need tyres mine are shitty nexens

Is there any install threads for fitting pull type magna clutch

I highly doubt your 0-100 time is that low in reality. The latest powerful front wheel drives are having real trouble cracking anything better than high fives and these have very complex front drive setups far more advanced than a magnas.

I highly doubt your 0-100 time is that low in reality. The latest powerful front wheel drives are having real trouble cracking anything better than high fives and these have very complex front drive setups far more advanced than a magnas.

Hey dave. Yeh mate who knows Wat it's really doing. But i can't even use first gear I wish somehow I could get traction in first and I would be laughing.

Hey dave. Yeh mate who knows Wat it's really doing. But i can't even use first gear I wish somehow I could get traction in first and I would be laughing.

You have an lsd right? get some good tyres and it should grip easy.

There is no doubting its quick though. Tyres are key

You have an lsd right? get some good tyres and it should grip easy.


Yeh lsd. Wat u recommend for tyres?

Yeh lsd. Wat u recommend for tyres?

Depends what you want to run, on a budget i would put some Ku31 or federal 595 ss on the rear and something good on the front, Ku36, Eagle f1 aysm 2, Potenza re002, etc. Obviously its better to have good tyres on all corners but if you have to choose, front grip is much more important, i never lost the rear end with my Ku31s on and they are pretty budget performance tyre.

Yeh lsd. Wat u recommend for tyres?
If it's good performance at the drags, and you want to keep to a budget... I would look at the Kumho KU36s... or the Achilles 123S for a street legal semi slick....

I'm running an LSD and have tried KU31's initially and then both KU36 and federal RSR's.

The last 2 being so called 'semi slicks'. These 2 were better but I still haven't been able to solve traction issues.


I think the best solution would be get some serious 'real' semi slicks and use these as your track tyres, Dunlops or something.
However then you increase your chances of breaking something.

I'm running an LSD and have tried KU31's initially and then both KU36 and federal RSR's.

The last 2 being so called 'semi slicks'. These 2 were better but I still haven't been able to solve traction issues.


I think the best solution would be get some serious 'real' semi slicks and use these as your track tyres, Dunlops or something.
However then you increase your chances of breaking something.

Ohh look ford fella another 3.8l with traction issues using semis. Yeh Brett I'm gonna try get something semi don't wont something too full on cause I'll probably break something.

Look at the Achilles 123S

From what I've seen and heard.. They're FANTASTIC

SuFz :ninja:

Go the Evo clutch.. you do a lot of launches on really grippy drag surfaces, the clutch load is massive here. Required modification are just the step machined into the flywheel and fit it (Evo 7-9, not sure about others). The difference between the 2 clutches is MASSIVE. Do it once, do it right.

try suspension set ups before 5 sets of tyres

Kido Coilovers..
Achilles Tyres..

WIN WIN! - Just sayin..

SuFz :ninja:

Kido Coilovers..
Achilles Tyres..

WIN WIN! - Just sayin..

SuFz :ninja:

2nd that, and its called throttle control

If you want grip - you need grippy tyres. Is this all for times at the drags? If so, go all out with full slicks and burnout the shit out of them. If its for road use, you arent going to get heat into semi slicks to make them worthwhile. Read tyre tests and then make a decision. I reccomend you get your credit card out and spend decent $$$ on the current max summer tyres from goodyear, bridgestone, michelin, continental et. Stop wasting your time with all this achilles, nexen rubbish

Semi slicks spin up because they are cold.... Do skid then go and they won't much. 235 federal 595 s after being warmed up will stick.

i have no problems getting heat into 123s, have you used them before dave?

Go the Evo clutch.. you do a lot of launches on really grippy drag surfaces, the clutch load is massive here. Required modification are just the step machined into the flywheel and fit it (Evo 7-9, not sure about others). The difference between the 2 clutches is MASSIVE. Do it once, do it right.

Cheers mate. U shore there's no other mods to make the evo clutch fit up? I was told the pressure plate holes don't line up and u have to Make the holes bigger or something? And also pressure plate rubbing on gearbox?

i have no problems getting heat into 123s, have you used them before dave?

They leave wicked black marks in squiggles when you warm them up.. LO!

SuFz

really, i couldnt tell you if it does or not

really, i couldnt tell you if it does or not

Because you're never behind yourself..

SuFz :ninja:

Go the Evo clutch.. you do a lot of launches on really grippy drag surfaces, the clutch load is massive here. Required modification are just the step machined into the flywheel and fit it (Evo 7-9, not sure about others). The difference between the 2 clutches is MASSIVE. Do it once, do it right.

380 HD clutches need a step machined as well, something like this (http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_115602.jpg) and close-up here (http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_115608.jpg).

I was running an xtreme HD clutch in my Ralliart.
The clutch died - because it was taken out and put in too many times because of dead diffs. Never slipped and overpowered 2x slippery 245 dunlops when the cusco welded itself easily enough.

Not sure how you guys are getting traction problems, unless the 3.8L adds 20fwkw and removes 50kg off the front, because i never had any grip problems in 1st even with my open diff.
Get yourself some decent suspension? Don't launch at 5krpm? Iunno.

Mattvrx a 3.8l does not remove 50kg from the front of a car....

Mattvrx a 3.8l does not remove 50kg from the front of a car....

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnwltqhA7R1qzj7lm.png

380 HD clutches need a step machined as well, something like this (http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_115602.jpg) and close-up here (http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_115608.jpg).

I did my 380 HD clutch with a 380 flywheel, no step was required until I moved to the Evo clutch as the 380 clutch was a piss weak piece of crap that I never should have gotten.

Evo clutch + decent tread, low psi front, high psi rear, chock the rear suspension if you're really keen and you'll launch like a mofo. I would cracked 12s if I did this, sad that I didn't get the chance :(

Go for the EVO. It'll cost you but if you're gonna go all out, go all out!!