Hi Guys

Would love some advice on new tryes...

I need 2 new front tryes to replace the standard 215/60 R16 Turanza ER30's on my newly purchased TH Sport. I was hoping to keep my current Turanza's on the back (they still have good tread) for a little while as money is tight atm, but as i need to replace the fronts i naturally wanted a better trye to replace it. I know this is not ideal but there should be no major problems right??

Can anyone recommend a replacement trye either an upgraded Bridgestone or another brand. I want it to stick really well, with emphasis on wet weather performance but with value in mind. So a Bridgestone S03 for e.g. is probably a bit too extreme at this stage. I also appreciate the quiteness of the Turanza's so would also appreciate a fairly quiet replacement but grip is the priority.

Cheers
Dave

Gday Mate. I just replaced my fronts (same tyre size) the same way you are looking at (cant see the point replacing 4 tyres when you only need 2). We went for the Pirelli P6, seems to be a Fu%^load better then the Dunlops they replaced. They are more for wet weather grip but are supposed to be a good all round tyre. The other option we had was the Yokohama for the same price but the P6s tread looked the better performer for water runout. Comes down to budget I guess but these tyres where priced at $140 each. But dont go to Bob Jane MT Gravatt QLD (see Tyre Buying Trouble thread in General forum).
Good Luck

Go for the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 (make sure its the D3 and not the D2). Excellent wet weather
tyre and has always performed excellent in tyre comparos. The dunlop FM901 was a good tyre,
don't know it they are still available but they tend to be a bit noisy.

Hey, i got a pair of Toyo Geo's on the front, and just put the older ones on the rear. Grip is good, and i get bugger all understeer (unless the tyres are actualyl spinning), but its not as though the cars stuck to the road. Mines a manual and it gets driven pretty hard, so not sure how much grip i should be gettin, but cant really complain. Deffinatley better than the old tyres. A bit pricey though at $160 each, for a 215.

I'd go for a 225/50

I went for Yokohama A539 all round on mine. P6000's were next choice - but it was a very narrow dicision.

The Yoko's have loads more grip than my old Kumo 711? normal tyres did.

i have tried a few tyres having a manual really lets you know witch ones grip and the ones that dont last set was yokies ES100s nice but exe$250 got falken512s (225/55/16) $220 are awesome!! full thottle in first wont spin em like every thin else ive tried!! (kellys would spin half throtle in 2nd!! in the dry!!)

I'd go for a 225/50
225/50 tyres have a load rating of 92 which is not suitable for the 3rd gens. The Sports needs
at least a 94. Try 225/55 if you want to go to 225 wide but 55 profile tyres are expensive.
Try $300 a tyre for 215/55 R16 Bridgestone ER50.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys..

I will stick to a 215/60 size for now to keep the fronts the same as the rear. I,ve also heard that putting a wider tyre on a standard width rim isn't always a good idea because it means the sidewalls won't be as stiff and this efffects turn in response.

I've heard good things about the Goodyear's mentioned by Vlad so they are on the short list along with the Pirelli P6000's (these are the same tyres as on the Ralliart right?).

Only thing about the P6000's is i think i remember someone on here saying that they bought them only to find them inferior to the Bridgestone's on their car previously. Does this ring any bells?

I will be ringing a few shops to get some prices and will post them when i do.

Dave

Thanx all for the suggestions.

Ended up getting Bridgestone GII's - Next step up from the OE Turanza's. Normally they each retail for $30 more than the Turanza's but Bridgestone at Castle Hill had some in stock that they bought on special so i got them for just $8 more.

Same trye & size apparently that is fitted on the AWD models. New version of the G'grids but meant to be bit better performance and much better noise levels.

Hard to compare dry road difference to my old set as not much driving done on them yet - and the old ones were rooted so wet weather performance is a bit unfair to compare.

You can get 225/50/R16 tyres with a high enough load rating, i know because my 225/50 have a load rating of 96! Not all load ratings are teh same i picked up my tyres for $130each and they have a very aggressive sporty tread too, i was quite happy

Hey there magnafield.

Can you let us know how those new Bridgestone GII's go.

I'm in the same boat needing new tyres in that size. I have had the origional Turanza's, then fulken ziex which i hated. Too noisy and tram tracked like nothing else. Hated them.
Then went to P6000's. Better than the Fulkens but didnt last long, wasnt overly happy with the grip and once again, a very noisy tyre once they start to wear. Its like having 4X4 knobby tyres on the car. It roars like nothing else. ****s me for a car that is meant to be quiet.

Was looking at a new Toyo, and the Bridgestone Potenza GIII. Dont know what to get. Out of the Turanza's (origional), Fulkens and P6000's, i would go the Bridgestones again.

I am mainly after good all round grip but most of all, a QUIET tyre. Price isnt a huge issue nor is milage out of the tyre.

Thanks mate.

Anyone else got any other options or opinions?

Thanks Guys.

I would go 225/55/16.I like to know what brand of tyre 225/50/16 has a load rating more then 92.One of the big things with 225/50/16 tyres that they are mostly all directional types so they spend their life on the one side of your car.I have a set of Kmuho ku21 (asx) 225/55/16, much better ride the my old Kmuho 711 225/50/16

Hey there magnafield.

Can you let us know how those new Bridgestone GII's go.


They are probably not the right tyre for you cause i think they may be a bit too noisy. Not too bad really but a little bit noisier than the worn turanza's i replaced. Grip is certainly better (particularly in the wet) but that is obvious as the turanza's were well past their use by.

However their grip still isn't amazing as it's still all too easy to understeer & lose traction exiting corners when pushing hard.

I would rate them better than the turanza's but buying again i would get the GIII's for their extra grip & hopefully they wouldn't be any noisier.

I have also seen a new Turanza ER50 (i think) advertised - this could be worth a look as its meant to be very quiet. But the tyres you are used to are meant to be pretty good sticky rubber so i think getting a significantly quieter tyre may mean compromising some performance.

Of interest are the Dunlop SP Sport 2000E tyres fitted on the front of my mums KH Verada. The previous owners replaced the turanza's with these (not sure because they are better or just cheaper). Compared to my car with the GII's these tyres are a fair bit quieter - noticeably less roar. Some of this may be due to better Verada sound deadening but the majority must be due to the tyre.

In normal driving these tyres behave perfectly with no sign of less grip than the GII's. However out of respect i have never driven my mums car with too much enthusiasm. I will try and borrow it and give it a bit more of a workout to find out if these tyres can handle the pace or if they start to show their limitations too early.

Cheers
David

Has anyone tried Nexen tyres. Looks very much like a goodyear F1 I think it is

Thanks Magnafield.

Yeah am after something quiet so might give them a miss. I would be more than happy to give up some performance for a quieter tyre. As i said i have had the Turanza ER 30 (origional tyres) then fulken ziex then p6000's. Out of those three, i would go the Turanza's again for the quiet smooth ride. The others honestly didnt give me that much more benefit in road holding for the increase in noise.

Will have a look at the ER 50's which look ok but they only come in the 225/55R16 which usuually means mega bucks and also from experience, usually cause behaviour changes of the car.

Hey Dave.

I have spent a bit of time researching what tyres to put on next. I've been down to 2 different Bridgestone dealers and rang another 2 on the phone.

They all said that both the Grid II and the Potenza III are a much noisier tyre than the Turanza. They said that you trade noise levels for grip with their tyres anyway.

I asked them about the ER 30's ( http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/products/car/treads/er30.asp ) (origional equip on most Verada's) and thew ER 50's ( http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/products/car/treads/er50.asp ) which are the update for the ER 30's and are more designed for performance. All the 4 Bridgestone people i spoke to said that the ER 50's are a much better tyre grip wise and believe it or not, all of them said they are much, much quieter tyre also. Bonus.

Only problem is that the ER 50's dont come in the standard 215/60R16.
The closest size which wont effect the spedo but are slighly wider is the 225/55R16, have a Z speed rating and with that the price goes up by approx $110 a tyre.
Standard ER 30's are approx $140ea. ER 50's are approx $250ea.

I guess as people say, you get what you pay for.

Might give the 50's a go. Just hope they dont alter the cars drivability much such as tram tracking, and tyre wall flexing being a slightly wider tyre. The guys said there shouldnt be much change at all as it isnt a massive change in tyre size.

That's a tough decision to make there. $440 extra for all 4 wheels is a lot more.

I don't think you would have too many hassles with the different size of the ER50 but would any of these ones below (from Bridgestone website) that are closer to stock be more suitable?

Sizes for this Pattern
Product
Width Ratio Rim Load Speed Type
Premium Touring
Bridgestone ER50 (195/65R15) 195 65 15 91 V TL
Bridgestone ER50 (195/60R15) 195 60 15 88 V TL
Bridgestone ER50 (205/60R15) 205 60 15 91 V TL
Bridgestone ER50 (215/60R15) 215 60 15 94 V TL
Bridgestone ER50 (225/60ZR15) 225 60 15 96 Z TL
Bridgestone ER50 (225/60ZR16) 225 60 16 98 Z TL
Bridgestone ER50 (235/60ZR16) 235 60 16 100 Z TL
Bridgestone ER50 (205/55R16) 205 55 16 91 V TL
Bridgestone ER50 (215/55R16) 215 55 16 93 V TL
Bridgestone ER50 (225/55ZR16) 225 55 16 95 W TL
Bridgestone ER50 (225/50ZR16) 225 50 16 92 W TL

These tryes certainly sound good though - if you go ahead with the purchase i look forward to your findings!

Hey again.

Just put new tyres on the car. Ended up going for the Bridgestone ER 30's in 225/55 16.

Spoke to a few more bridgestone dealers about the ER 30's and the 50's. Got different answers from different people in regards to noise levels.

Decided to go with what i know which is the 30's which comes with most verada's. They are much quieter than the P6000's i had. Went the 225/55 16 which is a wider tyre than the 215/60 16 but still the same height so it doesnt effect spedo reading. They are also a V rating instead of H. And they look fine on the 6" rim. Some people said they might be a bit wide for that rim but they look and feel fine. They have so much more grip than the 215's and look much nicer as well.

Paid $190 ea for the 225 and the 215's are worth round $140 so not to bad.

Here is a pic of the spare so people can see the difference in width.

I just bought 2 x front tyres Dunlop SP Sport 200E 215/60 R16 V rating @$145.00 each and they seems to be quite nice tyres to drive in.

I have just recently purchased P6000's and I am disappointed for the performance, all name not go - $500 later the car's still not as good as my previous set. (The only reason I purchased was to scuff all 4 tiers down even so I could get a set of Toyo's) Toyo proxes TS1, this tier contains a silicone compound that give great grip under all sorts of conditions and is at a reasonable price, less than 300 each. Only one this to note that wear at a rapid rate is you put the boot into it each time you out cruise (18-24months max - front end - rotating will prolong life).