Hey everyone

I have a 98 TF magna Manual 3.0 L

So today drove it all day, was loving life, new oil change last night (HPR10) ...
on the way home stopped at the super market,

tried starting the car and get this annoying humming sound
see below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MkHYDnh7Y0&feature=plcp

So i've got it down to one thing ... starter motor, and the solenoid not engaging

correct me if i'm wrong, but that humm sounds like it ...

now will this work in may car ?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300777769085#ht_3391wt_1252
^^ if i get my own its only $190 including fitting

take note that it is a manual

So what the exact part number i need any ideas ?

if they get it
Qouted $300 - $350 for a new, round $250 for a recon or rebuild ... does that sound right ?

any help much appreciated !!
and ASAP

as i have exams monday !! :eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2:

try the wreckers i got quoted $130 for 1 down here ended up getting 1 from melbourne for $88. or try mal mitsfix

try the wreckers i got quoted $130 for 1 down here ended up getting 1 from melbourne for $88. or try mal mitsfix
thanks mate however i cant, cause i have no means of transport :( (live with dad who's vision impaired doesnt drive),
need it urgently for uni

anyone know how much a rebuild vs a new costs ?
=]

where are you if you ask nice someone may help you out . have you double checked the battery . im not a gen3 guy

I'm in Sunbury Victoria, 3429
oh really,
any help and i'll be forever greatful,
car is sitting in the shop
Shepherds Car Care Sunbury

thats where i got the off the top quote from.. they said they'll ring me in the morning with price and options ...
they haven't ruled it out (but from what i believe refer to the youtube clip would i be right in saying that ? )

yea checked the battery.. 12.9 volts (have a after market battery meter fitted) (plus have a look at my youtube clip below of the problem)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MkHYDnh7Y0&feature=plcp

pm mal (madmagna) im to far away 160 km east of melbourne ill be in melbourne tomorrow night. will see if i can find a cheap one down here

pm mal (madmagna) im to far away 160 km east of melbourne ill be in melbourne tomorrow night. will see if i can find a cheap one down here

thanks mate, anyone else in vic tomorrow i'm free all day =]
any help ?

Have you tried hitting it with a hammer ? mine was not engaging and had to be hit to engage, did that for a week or so before i got it fixed
may be worth a shot

it sounds like the solenoid isnt throwing out the bendix because it seems the starter motor is running. the solenoid has to be working because its powering the motor so maybe you have busted the fork that throws the gear into the flywheel....
try the hammer trick, works sometimes but i dont think thats your issue. you also might have stripped the ring gear but thats doubtfull. try rolling the engine over a little by hand, or stick it in gear and push it then try the starter. if it grabs then its the ring gear stripped, but if it hasnt made crunching noises its unlikely.

In reply to your PM, I have new for $175 and Used for $85 for the V6, Manual and Auto are the same

it sounds like the solenoid isnt throwing out the bendix because it seems the starter motor is running. the solenoid has to be working because its powering the motor so maybe you have busted the fork that throws the gear into the flywheel....
try the hammer trick, works sometimes but i dont think thats your issue. you also might have stripped the ring gear but thats doubtfull. try rolling the engine over a little by hand, or stick it in gear and push it then try the starter. if it grabs then its the ring gear stripped, but if it hasnt made crunching noises its unlikely.

good point .. lets hope its the bindex how much would that cost to fix ?

thanks for the info mal good to know

In reply to your PM, I have new for $175 and Used for $85 for the V6, Manual and Auto are the same

yea mechanics are charging me the same i think, i'll let you know they said the estimate without inspection max $350 so heres hoping for much less :)

how much is it to just fix the bindex ?

and how much should a recon or new fitted cost ?

ps: thanks mal, your expertise is highly regarded

go with mal best around

Hey everyone

So just a quick update =]

My car is back up and running again ..
I got a brand new Starter Motor From BURSONS AUTO PARTS (SUNBURY)
for $163 + 60 = $223) (fitting from shepherds auto shop )
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/48789752/photo%201.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/48789752/photo%203.JPG
So happy thanks to everyone for their help

Brian

I'm in the process of rebuilding my TF starter. The motor has a plastic reduction gear in the centre. This gear also takes all the impact from the solenoid moving the bendix gear. Being built from plastic, the solenoid eventually pulled the centre out of the reduction gear - but the motor will still turn but not engage the flywheel. From an auto elec who advertises on ebay, for $28 plus postage I purchased a kit with new brushes, reduction gear, seals and all bronze bushes.

Also, compared to other brands of cars, the TF starter brushes are only about half as long and this could explain why they fail so early, even though a set of brushes ($8, as I recall) does fix the problem.

any chance you might share that link with me ?

any chance you might share that link with me ?

link to what sorry ?

I have just been quoted $580 to replace the starter motor in my 1999 Kh Verada. Judging by what I've read here, this seems steep. I'm guessing it's a genuine one (forgot to ask) but I'm tempted to tow my car to another repairer for cheaper. If it's to save 300 bucks I'm definitely keen!

If it's a manual gearbox you can clutch start the car & drive it For that amount of money I would put one side up on a gutter and do it in the street. You have to pull off the plastic guards underneath but it is straighforward from there. One of the mounting bolts is accessed from the opposite side and the other from the motor side. Disconnect the main cable at the battery first. The small solenoid wire spade connector from the starter switch has a plastic locking lug that has to be squeezed with your fingers before pulling it off. You will need a 100mm or 150mm socket extension to reach the mounting bolts. You also need an 8mm spanner to undo the metal splash shield around the starter motor. If you leave the battery cable off for too long the computer will have to relearn and I think it takes about 15 minutes of idling the engine.

6264Matt, I paid $350.00 to get mine supplied and installed into my 99 Verada. Fitting was also free through NRMA as it was a callout. I supose with adding labor, your not too far off the money i paid.