hi all

My mate Lost control of his car in the rain and hit a fence he doesn't have insurance (only third party) because the car is only worth $2000 When he hit the fence it's also pushed the front wheel back
I know it's a bit hard just by the picture If you had a guest What Would it cost to fix?http://i.cubeupload.com/IIKXF4.jpg

It is hard to accuratly say but if that wheel is pushed back it will cost more then it is worth to fix unless you DIY the entire thing

Dont bother..

A pillar
PS Rail
Rad Support
Bumper
Bonnet
Cross member etc.

Plus paint and labour

Look for a second handy and swap over the good bits and sell off anything else worth anything.

SuFz :ninja:

Definitely more than what you paid for it, and probably more than its worth.
Labour alone, if done correctly, will take up much of the original purchase price.

A pillar, rail, rad support, nhahahahahahahahahahahaha. Has not even broken the headlight FFS

No wonder so many otherwise immaculate cars get written off

Op, remove the guard and check for damage. I have repaired a few similar to this, often as te impact was so close to the outer edge of the car not much damage is done. May need strut and lower control arm, guard. Looking at this pick inner skirt looks to have been missed

Ignore the doom and gloom from the "experts" until you see for yourself what has happened, many will tell you rail is bent when may not be

shit might as well just buy another 1, chassis rail is a lil whacked off from proper look.

By the looks of it, its just the guard and bumper that's gone. Suspension side of things would probably be a control arm and maybe a tie rod. Does it still drive straight?

A pillar, rail, rad support, nhahahahahahahahahahahaha. Has not even broken the headlight FFS

No wonder so many otherwise immaculate cars get written off

Op, remove the guard and check for damage. I have repaired a few similar to this, often as te impact was so close to the outer edge of the car not much damage is done. May need strut and lower control arm, guard. Looking at this pick inner skirt looks to have been missed

Ignore the doom and gloom from the "experts" until you see for yourself what has happened, many will tell you rail is bent when may not be

HAHA! Are you serious?!

Guaranteed if that goes on a jig its off on the Front PS Rail
A Pillar - Look at the bottom, slight bend
Rad Support - Have you looked at how its bent upwards?

For the safety of others - Dont attempt shonky repairs, even if advised by an "expert"

SuFz :ninja:

Are you serious Mal?? I would not like to be sharing the same roads with cars you have repaired if you are. Also OP.. I would take the good bits you like from your car and install them on a new one. You can pick up a te tf or even a ke kf for cheap these days..

Danny..

Don't forget he will get a nice bill for the repairs to the fence.
As for the car, You don't really know what the underlying damage is until you pull off the damaged parts and do some measurements. But from the picture it looks like an easy fix. There's no damage to the bonnet or "A" pillar.

Don't forget he will get a nice bill for the repairs to the fence.
As for the car, You don't really know what the underlying damage is until you pull off the damaged parts and do some measurements. But from the picture it looks like an easy fix. There's no damage to the bonnet or "A" pillar.

I'll give you the A pillar.. It may be the fact I'm looking at it on my phone.. But from where I look, it looks like a slight bend.

Bonnet though.. I beg to differ.

But hey.. It's a forum.. Everyone has an opinion, right?

SuFz :ninja:

Typical car forum - too many armchair experts with opinions and not enough people with hands-on motivation and skills. lol
If that was my car, I wouldn't take the time to post, I'd be pulling it to bits to see how bad the damage really is. An hour or two of work and you would know if it's a fixer or a junker.

Meh.

Not my car.

Too many back yarders working on filthy concrete floors posting in here thinking they're all of a sudden qualified to do such work.... OP tow the car to a panel shop if you're unsure. If they say it's not worth it tell the tow truck driver to either drop it back at your house if you want to salvage anything otherwise just scrap it.

It it was my car I'd get it picked up for scrap metal as the damage looks too much to deem it a cheap repair.

People are forgetting something... It's not his car.

hi all
My mate Lost control of his car ...

Looks to be similar damage to what was done to my Ralliart when I bought it... http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66529&p=1023478#post1023478
That bill came to somewhere around the $3-4K mark but that included a Headlight & Ralliart front bar and that was for cash at a reasonable repairer.

Too many back yarders working on filthy concrete floors posting in here thinking they're all of a sudden qualified to do such work.... OP tow the car to a panel shop if you're unsure. If they say it's not worth it tell the tow truck driver to either drop it back at your house if you want to salvage anything otherwise just scrap it.

It it was my car I'd get it picked up for scrap metal as the damage looks too much to deem it a cheap repair.

Love that filthy concrete floor. We simply make assumptions based on what we can see, and answer the OP's question to the best of our ability. On your logic, we should just autofill every tech question with "take it to the mechanic" or "take it to the panelbeater". I'm not qualified to do any work on my car, doesn't stop me.

OP, we need more pictures. Get that guard off and lets have a look underneath.

"OP, we need more pictures. Get that guard off and lets have a look underneath."

Well said. Agree fully.


Being properly "qualified" as Kiffy puts it, sounds like a good idea though.

What courses are available to make me "qualified"? I'm interested in engine and auto gearbox rebuilds, panel beating, spray painting, fixed glass replacement, car electronics, amongst others.
I will even sweep up and mop that filthy concrete floor, if that helps.

Love that filthy concrete floor. We simply make assumptions based on what we can see, and answer the OP's question to the best of our ability. On your logic, we should just autofill every tech question with "take it to the mechanic" or "take it to the panelbeater".

On my logic, if you don't have any experience in safely repairing or fixing a car it should be left to someone who can. To me, it is obvious that the OP and his mate have very little to none experience in being able to identify what is bent or damaged apart from the obvious and what isnt, let alone trying to repair it. Hence why I suggested taking it to someone with the experience so he can get an accurate answer. Because at the end of the day, a pic isn't going to show you important details that a trained eye would pick up on if they saw it in the flesh...

Probably true. As a DIY exercise the car may be repairable, but if the owner doesn't want to tackle the job or doesn't have the skills to repair it, it probably is heading for the scrap yard.

"OP, we need more pictures. Get that guard off and lets have a look underneath."

Well said. Agree fully.


Being properly "qualified" as Kiffy puts it, sounds like a good idea though.

What courses are available to make me "qualified"? I'm interested in engine and auto gearbox rebuilds, panel beating, spray painting, fixed glass replacement, car electronics, amongst others.
I will even sweep up and mop that filthy concrete floor, if that helps.

Becoming a panel beater and/or assessor will make you a "qualified expert"

You'll even have paperwork to prove it!

All in all - Some great ideas above and some not so great ... At the end of the day, how much effort are you willing to put in?

SuFz :ninja:

Couple of hundred bucks towing to the panelbeater. Couple of hundred back. If I saw what was under that guard and what was going on behind the wheel, then I would be able to reasonably pick what needs to be done. If the suspension is smashed to bits, thats when you get the professionals in. If its just the guard, then I wouldn't spend my money on towing fees.

I'm sure the owner of the car is busily pulling the bumper and guard off, and will post pictures any minute now . . . until then, let's just wait.

On my logic, if you don't have any experience in safely repairing or fixing a car it should be left to someone who can. To me, it is obvious that the OP and his mate have very little to none experience in being able to identify what is bent or damaged apart from the obvious and what isnt, let alone trying to repair it. Hence why I suggested taking it to someone with the experience so he can get an accurate answer. Because at the end of the day, a pic isn't going to show you important details that a trained eye would pick up on if they saw it in the flesh...

Thank you Kif, took the words right out of my mouth

For some, or many, they feel they just have to reply in every bloody thread even when they have NFI about what is being asked, we even delete many posts where the person posting states "I dont know personally but someone here will help you" I mean WTF is wrong with some people

I have fixed many cars with very similar damage, yes, they will all differ a little BUT will mostly come out the same story. Depends on angle of hit, speed etc etc but given the headlight is barely hit and looks to be a clean hit doing it as a DIY would come to SFA even with steering repairs. I always recommend a new rack when a tie rod has been bent as often the shock wave can do more damage however this is where it comes down to. IF the OP can with help fix then may be worth as will really be a guard, bar, indicator and some plasitc under trays etc. IF they have to pay for the repairs will not be worth it

From looking at the high res pic supplied NOT ON A PHONE
There is MINOR damage to the inner skirt, this can legally be fixed
Guard (Doh)
Indicator
Bonnet looks ok and looks more like the paint is just crap, clear peeling off as usual
Bar skin

Under will be a combination of lower control arm (99%) and perhaps strut, would change rack to be safe as well.

If OP is lucky to get some silver leaf panels then will be very cheap, if not then will either have a multicoloured car or need to do some paint.

A pillar, rail, rad support, nhahahahahahahahahahahaha. Has not even broken the headlight FFS

No wonder so many otherwise immaculate cars get written off

Op, remove the guard and check for damage. I have repaired a few similar to this, often as te impact was so close to the outer edge of the car not much damage is done. May need strut and lower control arm, guard. Looking at this pick inner skirt looks to have been missed

Ignore the doom and gloom from the "experts" until you see for yourself what has happened, many will tell you rail is bent when may not be

I thought the same but as I am NOT an expert dealing with and fixing these cars daily I didn't reply once the "doomsayers" went hard.

It'd be unlucky for such a small impact to bend the rail..... In My uninformed Opinion that is.