WOOT! After all these months, my dream has finally come true, Supercharged at last! :D

The car absolutely flies and sounds amazing, like it's got a jet engine under the bonnet! I'll post the full story tomorrow (still celebrating atm with my good mate Mr Daniels :P ), along with more pix and possibly a video with sound. For now though, here's a look at the engine bay...

http://www.copp.com.au/Hpim0330a.jpg

VR-X II

Woot! Would you say 20% more powerful?

that is AWESOME dude, congrats!!! :D

you HAVE to get some audio of it and some vids with your foot planted!!! :cool:

Nice!!!!!

Take up the cover and give us a loook.
Will be interesting to see it a dyno day and at the track. Hopefully you will net better results than the AWD counterpart in the magazine article. Nice job anyway.....anything forced induction is good and can be worked with. :badgrin:

holy sh!t...... congrads.... WE WANT VIDS!!!! or come down to wollongong and show me!

Woot! Would you say 20% more powerful?

lol who cares about percentages..........unless you mean power percentage?
163kw-225kw?.....do the maths, its pretty good! :D

it would of run a 14.7-15.0 stock and should now run a high 13 low 14?

lol who cares about percentages..........unless you mean power percentage?
163kw-225kw?.....do the maths, its pretty good! :D

it would of run a 14.7-15.0 stock and should now run a high 13 low 14?

Actually im pretty sure his is auto so more like a 15.3-15.5 stock.

Well done, good to see someone willing to fork out for the cause.

congrats again, hope its everything u wanted....

go the blower!

Actually im pretty sure his is auto so more like a 15.3-15.5 stock.

yeh your right its a tippy............could of sworn it was a manual. oh well add a few tenths to those times lol

That's great man!

Let's not speculate times and just wait and see. :D

Good to see it finally done!!

haha awsome :D

lol who cares about percentages..........unless you mean power percentage?
163kw-225kw?.....do the maths, its pretty good! :D

it would of run a 14.7-15.0 stock and should now run a high 13 low 14?

Was i talking to you? VRX-II, I would like to know in real terms how much more powerful the car feels as i am considering the Supercharger approach also and want to be sure it's worth the investment.

i'll be the bigger man and walk away shall i :)

Done well mate - this makes me want one for mine even more - now I just gotta wait till my warranty has gone and of course the odd dollar wouldnt go astray and hopefully i'll have one in too :)

ahoy a supercharger! Can't wait to see it mate!

i'll be the bigger man and walk away shall i :)

Good advice. Maturity comes with age.

NICE! cant wait for vids and track day results :cool:
Were Sprintex easy to deal with?

oh and:

Good advice. Maturity comes with age.

arrogance too apparently :doubt:

Yes how did the installation go? And congratulations, would love to see/hear it!

:shock: Wow! That looks awesome. Congrats. How much was it? Where did u get it done and how long it takes for them to install?
Any problem with traction? I'm sure if a ralliart magna was supercharged, it will have a great amount of wheelspin.

Maturity comes with age.

In that case I'd be pretty mouldy by now....?

Anyway, back to the topic :mad: - among others, I'm eagerly waiting for more technical details.
Somebody mentioned Wollongong - r u guys cruising down and is the car "on show" there.

Okies, assuming that the car runs in the mid-15s stock, Sprintex reckons the S/c should take it down 1.5 to 2 secs which means mid/high 13s...hopefully. Sure feels like it can do it and I haven't actually caned it yet 'cos Sprintex want me to go easy for a few days til it all settles in. Jeff, the Sprintex mechanic and I took it for a test run down Epping Rd and the M2 and he reckons it's MUCH quicker than the AWD.

The Traction control is awesome. From idle, the car launches with hardly any wheel-spin and torque-steer isn't a problem either. Sprintex aren't quite sure ('cos this is the first FWD VR-X they've done) but we're prolly looking at around 230kW and 430Nm.

And the sound! If you've ever taxied down a runway in a jet, you'll get the idea! At idle, the belts are a bit screechy atm 'cos they haven't bedded-in yet. I'll try and do a video/audio of the car revving from the cockpit later today if I get the time.

The Sprintex crew were fantastic. Extremely professional, committed to performance vehicles and very consious of customer needs and satisfaction. They know what they're doing and it comes across when they talk with you. If fact, Jay Upton, the Sprintex GM is a motorcycle dragracing Champion. Do a Google search for 'Jay Upton' and you'll get around 665,00 hits!

And btw, Tom Horne, the proprietor of Castle Automotive did a great job as well. Jeff Dodsworth, Sprintex's mechanic had nothing but praise for him throughout the installation.

And now for some pix. This is going to be a HUGE post 'cos I've got 13 pix and don't know how to do thumbnails (would appreciate some advise, I use Paintshop Pro, Photoshop and Fireworks)...

http://www.copp.com.au/sc1.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc2.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc3.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc4.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc5.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc6.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc7.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc8.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc9.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc10.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc11.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc12.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/sc13.jpg

Whew, enough for now. Anyone who wants more info about the S/c, PM me or post to the BB. :thumbsup:

VR-X II

mate that is awesome, i'll be getting one asap, cant wait for the audio....bring on the supercharger
cheers
Rhys

did u have to get any computer mods ?

Are we gonna see it on the track on the 11th?!

what have you got as far as an ECU goes?
any brake upgrades?
mmmm that looks soooo nice. Looks pretty stock as well with that black cover!! :D
Has it got an on/off switch like the toyota ones? Is that an optiona at all?

Whats the Damage on getting a Magna Super Charged ????
Would it work on the 6G72 ???

How do you go about Changing the Rear Plugs ??? does all that have to come off???

Whats the Damage on getting a Magna Super Charged ????
Would it work on the 6G72 ???

How do you go about Changing the Rear Plugs ??? does all that have to come off???
$7600 for parts from what he has said + labour..

holy jebus....$7600 + Install.

congrats mate, im sure many hours of fun is ahead, + satisfaction of owning many cars @ many red lights !





let us know what your AVG FUEL says, i hope it aint to bad for ya !

Okies, here's a quick video done on my HP Photosmart 850 digital camera (in MPG format). Hope it works, never tried this before...

Revving (http://www.copp.com.au/revving.MPG)

The S/c kit comes with its own piggyback chip. Dunno about the rear plugs(Iridium), will find out in 100,000Ks. Might make it on the 11th, depends on work commitments. And yup, it does cost a bit but worth every cent to own Clubsports. :thumbsup:

EDIT: Clicked on it 5 times (runs in QuickTime, at least on my 'puter) and it ran 3 times and failed twice. Takes a little while to load.

VR-X II

i cant see it...

i see what you mean about sounding like a jet!!

looks and sounds quick, but damn you might get sick of how loud it seems?

yeh does sound like a jet
i like it :D

well done mate! love the sound of it!!
give us a video of 0-100. when the car is ready of course....

woohoo!!! 3..2..1... takeoff!! That sounds nuts!!
Someone wanna donate 8k to me! lol

YOU BLOODY TEASE lol

we want 1st...............hit 2nd....................hit 3rd action! :D

just sitting there revving it you can tell it is going to sound AWESOME under load!!! :cool:

Really really nice job on the blower

All I can say is I would **** my pants if a Magna did that next to me at the lights/strip.

It does sound like the belts are making abit of noise there, but as you've said it needs to bed in. Can't wait till you take it to the strip!

Awesome. Good to see its all completed without any complications I take it. Did they replace your standarad vrx exhaust as well? Wonder what they'd have to do differently if your car already had mods, say your own cai, headers, etc. When you say Traction control, is it still using the standard TCL from the magna? Well done on the new mod. We want to see a vid of it canning from 0 - 160 . Take it to the highway.. :cool:

Car sounds nice...
Congrats again

Yes, congrats on finally having it finished. Well done, like Gemlin, you are a pioneer.

Love that sound, and yes, the sticket makes it too (nice shot!)

Someone get this man a title below his nick... "First Supercharged 3rd Gen!"

Give one to Gremlin too: "First Coilover Suspension"

Both you guys have my respect!

....
And the sound! If you've ever taxied down a runway in a jet, you'll get the idea! At idle, the belts are a bit screechy atm 'cos they haven't bedded-in yet. I'll try and do a video/audio of the car revving from the cockpit later today if I get the time.
....
VR-X II

Now thats what I want to hear! (No pun intended lol )

I've always loved the sound of the "jet sound" from superchargers, much more then blow off valves :D (That's my personal taste only)

++++
Greetings All.

*Drool*

AWSOME!! Now all you need to get is pacemaker/RPW extractors, 3" High-flow cat, 3" Mandrel bent exhaust, with a nice Magnaflow Muffler...

Then build a nice SS CAI with pod filter and let her rip!!!

(Dont forget a strut brace and a anti-lift kit)

Sounds awsome by the way...VERY Impressed!! Cant wait to see it in the flesh!

Cheers,
--Tonba
++++

Wow thats awsome :) where are you?
Epping rd? thats sorta close.

Dude that's awesome :D

Cant wait to see it go

*drools on keyboard*

Man that is SWEEEEEEEEET :D... Ive only been thinking about charging in the last couple of days eh, is this a "roots" charger (no jokes there, although you should pull something with that lol) or does it wind up to hit boost?

thats awesome mate, enjoy blitzing those commonhores :D

Here's a brief description of the S/c...

Sprintex unique Twin-Screw system

The Sprintex twin screw supercharger rotor compressor is a mechanically driven rotary compressor with two helical lobed rotors, which rotate in opposite directions. One rotor takes the form of the left-hand helix, the other the right hand helix and the two mesh together to form chambers which carry the air. The rotors do not touch, but are timed by a pair of gears operating in a lubricated chamber which is separated from the rotor chamber.

The S/c kicks in at 1,500 rpm.

You can find out more at www.sprintex.com.au

EDIT: Hmmmm, just got an idea from the above description: think I'll tell the insurance company that I've added a 'rotary compressor' to the car and see what happens. Instead of being lowered, I told them that I added a 'suspension safety enhancement' and they copped it sweet. lol

Cheers
VR-X II

soooo
was there any ecu mods ?

Yup, a dedicated piggyback chip for the additional fuel-injector.

VR-X II

so do u lose the aircon ?

be good to get group buy on them.

WHAT :doubt: boy can only dream

Mate well done...:clap: I so want to work my engine now lol

look go easy on an old man... I read this whole thread and I didn't see what psi you are currently running...and or intend to get up to. Please share.

so what the update???? havent had time to come on AM???? lol

so what the update???? havent had time to come on AM???? lol
I wouldn't be either... I would have to start up a fuel account with BP or something if I had that done lol lol

Mate well done...:clap: I so want to work my engine now lol

look go easy on an old man... I read this whole thread and I didn't see what psi you are currently running...and or intend to get up to. Please share.

7 psi :D

can run up to 10psi though........

7 psi :D

can run up to 10psi though........
Cheers big ears... I am just going to return to sob in the corner for a while longer

EDIT: Hmmmm, just got an idea from the above description: think I'll tell the insurance company that I've added a 'rotary compressor' to the car and see what happens. Instead of being lowered, I told them that I added a 'suspension safety enhancement' and they copped it sweet. lol

Cheers
VR-X II

roughly how much are you paying for insurance and who with?

Okies, here's a quick video done on my HP Photosmart 850 digital camera (in MPG format). Hope it works, never tried this before...

Revving (http://www.copp.com.au/revving.MPG)

The S/c kit comes with its own piggyback chip. Dunno about the rear plugs(Iridium), will find out in 100,000Ks. Might make it on the 11th, depends on work commitments. And yup, it does cost a bit but worth every cent to own Clubsports. :thumbsup:

EDIT: Clicked on it 5 times (runs in QuickTime, at least on my 'puter) and it ran 3 times and failed twice. Takes a little while to load.

VR-X II

Wow, I just saw the video sounds awesome altough it may be too loud for me on the inside. Did you have your windows or doors open when you shot the clip??

Is your car a auto or manual?

Get more videos when you break it in. I wanna hear it go through the gears.

Sweet ride cant wait to see a vid of the car on the 1/4 mile.

Also a suggestion only wouldnt this thread be a bigger impact if it were in tech torque or members lounge.

Cause only happened to accidentaly stumbe on this thread today :rant: and since im at uni i cant here the SC from the vid u put up.

Tom

SO that supercharge cost all up 8grand huh? wouldnt of u been better of spending 8 and half and getting it turbocharge? either that or the place you got it is was expensive, around my are they can supercharge for 5-6grand

surely its run in by now and u can give it some and record it for us :D

Yeah the next video and plz post it on the mods section for everybody to see. Its not everyday a Magna gets charged.

expensive? id like to see this 5-6g setup all done by a shop, new products with very tidy work!


SO that supercharge cost all up 8grand huh? wouldnt of u been better of spending 8 and half and getting it turbocharge? either that or the place you got it is was expensive, around my are they can supercharge for 5-6grand

Very nice, a buzzing wasp VR-X. :D

From memory the kit costs $7,600 just for parts so how much was the install if you don't mind me asking?

YAY the thread got moved now i can make sure i dont miss out on any new developments

eg a vid hint hint 0-100 or 1/4 :) :badgrin:

Gotta love the airplane taking off sound of the SC.

Tom

YAY the thread got moved now i can make sure i dont miss out on any new developments

eg a vid hint hint 0-100 or 1/4 :) :badgrin:

Gotta love the airplane taking off sound of the SC.

Tom


yes 0-100 would be nice

screws any other mods to my car, im gunna save up for this lol

first 3.0l auto with sprintex s/c kit

i want 240kW dammit, 100kW for under 10g's thats 10kW per G! 1kW per $100

screw n/a :doubt: :rant:

do they have a finance option lol

Even single turbo enhacements would cost the same so basically you get to choose which suits your driving. The Auto box apparently has a 250-275kw limit ( RPW ) so you are close to its max ( if its true ).

good work on a sweet sounding car.

So no dyno sheets? Surely they must have done a dyno run or six to nail the tuning of the piggy back?

Please tell me they don't take a one size fits all approach to engine management?!

Oh, sounds mad! It's great to see people are still doing new things and getting good results.

As stated in a post to another Thread, my Sprintex VR-X is off to Perth (via rail freight) for testing and further development! :D :D :D All expenses paid, of course. So, I'm in the Corolla hire car for the next 2 weeks or so.

I tell ya what, if there's a better crew in Aus then Sprintex, I'd like to know about it. :thumbsup:

VR-X II

PS: Read my post if ya like in 'Tech Torque' under 'Why do people hate Sprintex' (rubbish thread IMO). :nuts:

As stated in a post to another Thread, my Sprintex VR-X is off to Perth (via rail freight) for testing and further development! :D :D :D All expenses paid, of course. So, I'm in the Corolla hire car for the next 2 weeks or so.

I tell ya what, if there's a better crew in Aus then Sprintex, I'd like to know about it. :thumbsup:

VR-X II

PS: Read my post if ya like in 'Tech Torque' under 'Why do people hate Sprintex' (rubbish thread IMO). :nuts:

Man that sounds cool, looks like they're getting really serious about getting some really awesome horsepower these superchargers.

[QUOTE=VR-X II]As stated in a post to another Thread, my Sprintex VR-X is off to Perth (via rail freight) for testing and further development! VR-X II QUOTE]

how come there getting all the fun mate.. :rant:

further development aka flogging the chit out of ya car lol, its probably better your not there seeing it.

as said in previous post the film you took were ya windows down?fairly loud inside?

The car was shut up tighter than a clam; windows up, sunroof closed, bonnet down. Yes, it's pretty loud inside the car, especially under load...just the way I like it.:D People on the footpath and in other cars certainly know you're coming! If ya get tired of the sound (no way), just turn up the tunes. :dancin:

VR-X II

Oh deary me, this is the first time I have seen this thread....dowloaded the vid....brings a tear to my eye....

That sounds damn tuff, thats all I can say....:bowdown:

Top Job :thumbsup:


:bowdown:

Tuff indeed

inspirational stuff...

SO that supercharge cost all up 8grand huh? wouldnt of u been better of spending 8 and half and getting it turbocharge? either that or the place you got it is was expensive, around my are they can supercharge for 5-6grand

Thats probably true, but I bet they aren't mitsubishi and ADR backed :)

i think i speak on behalf of every when i say


"SHOW US SOME VIDS"


dont turn into booya, Tease us, then leave us in the dry.......we have needs ! :D

As stated in a post to another Thread, my Sprintex VR-X is off to Perth (via rail freight) for testing and further development! :D :D :D All expenses paid, of course. So, I'm in the Corolla hire car for the next 2 weeks or so.

I tell ya what, if there's a better crew in Aus then Sprintex, I'd like to know about it. :thumbsup:

VR-X II

PS: Read my post if ya like in 'Tech Torque' under 'Why do people hate Sprintex' (rubbish thread IMO). :nuts: Wow!
You must be WRAPPED to say the least!
I brung up the Sprintex story a while ago now and was very impressed
Now being in the State as these guys and around 30 minutes away from
them it's making me keen on the idea again!
Your an inspiration mate!
Good luck with it!

So hows the car going now youve had it for a 'little while'

Has the belts bedded in alright? Is it any quieter?

More importantly, can you get some vids or sound files of the car under load?

This is not some crappy laggy Centrifugal supercharger or some run of the Bogan mill Roots supercharger...This is a Twin-Screw Supercharger that is a "True" air compressor....
builds boost much earlier than the two previous designs and doesn't heat the intake charge nearly as much therefore u can run higher boost whilst requiring less power to run and is more compact....
So all in all 7-8k is a great price considering the technology and all the R&D put in....someone needs to get this setup on a manual magna with an LSD...
for more info on the different types of SC read this...

http://www.advanceautoparts.com/english/youcan/html/pht/pht20021101ts.html

"A centrifugal blower is basically a turbocharger that's driven by a belt or gear system, rather than the engine exhaust. The Roots and twin-screw types are positive-displacement superchargers that produce the same level of boost at any rpm, from 2000 rpm and up. The twin-screw differs from the Roots, though, in that it compresses the air between two intermeshing rotors, usually differentiated as male and female. In contrast, the rotors on a Roots type are "asexual," in that they have identical shapes, and they push air on their outer surfaces, which flows along the inner sides of the case. Due to these differences in configuration, the Roots type usually has a much larger housing than the twin-screw setup.

While Roots blowers have proven themselves in a wide variety of applications, from WWII aircraft to truck diesels to hot rods, the twin-screw has several advantages. In addition to being generally more compact, it requires less power to drive it and runs cooler, and since it compresses the air, it provides more boost as well. In addition, even though a twin-screw supercharger may not necessarily provide a higher peak horsepower than a centrifugal blower (depending on the setup), it does provide more boost and thus power throughout the midrange of an engine's powerband."

...someone needs to get this setup on a manual magna with an LSD...


if sprintex need a donor car, and someone wants to give me the $$$ i'll drive to perth right now!!

if sprintex need a donor car, and someone wants to give me the $$$ i'll drive to perth right now!!

me to :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

im in perth but i only have a 3L :( lol

my GF reakons it sounds like a kettle boiling

but im with the pack sounds like a Jet to me.. and sounds sweet ;D

More Video Clips Pleaseee, Also Will spindex be able to supercharge the TJ 2000 models?

Will do some more clips when I get the car back. Sprintex currently have it over in WA for testing and further development as I write this.

Okies, let me explain something here: because their twin-screw S/c is so powerful, even at 7psi (and it is capable of 10psi +), they want to make sure it will be suitable for a range of General Public 'second-hand' Magna owners. What that means, at least initially, is late-model Magnas with relatively low kilometers on the clock. The reason for this is that Sprintex developed their S/c for use in new AWD Magnas and need to be sure of its effects on 'second-hand' engines.

Hence, my pride and joy is over there and under the 'scalpel' and not here with me with my bum on the driver's seat as it should be (the withdrawal symtoms are a bit*h).

Hopefully, what you will realise from this is that Sprintex are not some cowboy 'grease-monkey' outfit out for the quick ripoff bucks, but a serious, high-tech company out to provide true high-performance solutions to us Underdogs.

As soon as testing is complete, they will have a much better picture of which model Magnas (along with suitable engine kilometers) are suitable to become Sprintex Magnas.

Fingers X-ed, fellow Underdogs. :thumbsup:

VR-X II

Will do some more clips when I get the car back. Sprintex currently have it over in WA for testing and further development as I write this.

Okies, let me explain something here: because their twin-screw S/c is so powerful, even at 7psi (and it is capable of 10psi +), they want to make sure it will be suitable for a range of General Public 'second-hand' Magna owners. What that means, at least initially, is late-model Magnas with relatively low kilometers on the clock. The reason for this is that Sprintex developed their S/c for use in new AWD Magnas and need to be sure of its effects on 'second-hand' engines.

Hence, my pride and joy is over there and under the 'scalpel' and not here with me with my bum on the driver's seat as it should be (the withdrawal symtoms are a bit*h).

Hopefully, what you will realise from this is that Sprintex are not some cowboy 'grease-monkey' outfit out for the quick ripoff bucks, but a serious, high-tech company out to provide true high-performance solutions to us Underdogs.

As soon as testing is complete, they, and I, will have a much better picture of which model Magnas (along with suitable engine kilometers) are suitable to become Sprintex Magnas.

Fingers X-ed, fellow Underdogs. :thumbsup:

VR-X II

thanks for the update mate, can't wait to see a few clips :D

Got to have a welcome back cruuz so everyone can hear the jet take off. And hopefully they will put 10psi through my nine year old baby. :pray:

Must be a real b!tch getting it all done, having it for a fleeting moment and losing it again :( However, I'm sure there are many of us here that appreciate your sacrifice in the name of R&D that will benefit them. :clap:

How much does it cost to get the supercharger?
What sort of damage can it do to your engine?
Does it raise the insurance cost\how much?

Thanx for the Update VRX-II!

Now i want to ask you a bunch of questions,and i Want them answered IMMEDIETLY!
:bowrofl::bowrofl:
No,Really hehe!

1.Did they include the A/M Auto Transmission Oil Cooler into the Price?

2.Have they Tested it as in Litres per 100km's,cause 3.5 VR-X's are 13L/100km,I think(Some1 Correct me if i'm wrong please!)

3.How much Power can the Transmission and engine take till further Mods need to be done?

Thanx VR-X II in advance!:cool:

No worries, MagnaArt. To answer your questions:

1) The oil cooler is included in the kit price.

2) No tests have been done yet as regards fuel economy. To be honest, that was never a high priority to me.

3) Around 275kW, I think.

VR-X II

dynosheetorban ;)

No worries, MagnaArt. To answer your questions:

1) The oil cooler is included in the kit price.

2) No tests have been done yet as regards fuel economy. To be honest, that was never a high priority to me.

3) Around 275kW, I think.

VR-X II Thanx VR-X II!
Obviously the 2nd Question does'nt matter to much,jus Wondering,cause if it's using up quite a bit of juice on stock boost i'd be a bit :shock:+:redface: then :cry:
Thanx again mate:D

Okies, here's the latest news about the TJ VR-X Sprintex Magna:

The first thing Sprintex did when they got the car was to strip the engine and exhaust system down. What they found was a 'mystery' chunk of metal in the Cat that was restricting the flow by over 25% (resulting in potential detonation problems). The general consensus is that the 'chunk' was due to a Mitsubishi manufacturing issue.

With a Supercharger, the two most critical issues are the amount and quality of air (and fuel) coming in and the degree of efficiency of exhaust gases going out.

Now, I bought my VR-X new (used by the Sales Mgr as his 'drive-car') and had only 22,000Ks on it (with no adverse effects) at the time of the conversion. YET, it had a Cat problem that was not obvious up till that time.

After the conversion, I was totally happy with the performance. But, because Sprintex are the company they are, they still insisted on doing a 'living autopsy', during which, they discovered the Cat problem, coupled with their belief that the fuel filter wasn't as efficient as it could be.

All other testing areas proved a-okay.

Due to all of this painstaking testing, what Sprintex have decided to do is to sell their S/c kit with a new Cat and fuel filter included (albeit at a slightly higher cost).

Why? Because that's how serious they are about 'getting it right' for used Magna owners who want to be able to take advantage of a 'bullet-proof' Supercharger solution.

Now, since the engine was stripped, I decided to go for a port and polish (my cost $500) and...a complete stainless steel custom Genie (Sprintex are development partners with Genie) dual exhaust system with high-flow mufflers (at cost for around $850).

The car, hopefully, will be Dyno-tested on Friday, after which, I'll post the results.

And, just to put the icing on the cake, the TV motoring show, Drive Time, produced by Channel 10 in Perth, are going to do a feature on my car to see how it stacks-up against the AWD Sprintex Magna!

At the wheel will be ex-Mitsubishi works WRC driver, Tolley Challis (also the presenter of Drive Time). He'll be doing 1/4 mile runs, gymkhana tests and maybe even some track work. All of which will be videoed, with me getting multiple copies to share with AMC members!

Am I over the moon? Not by half! :D

Oh, btw, should get the car back within two weeks. Not like I'm hangin' out for it or anything (withdrawals are a bit*h).

VR-X II

Sounds great mate... so tell me, this "chunk" of metal... are they implying that it might exist in all 3rd gens? if so... im getting that hi flow cat after all lol... sounds a bit odd though... and what is the difference with their fuel filter? or is that under wraps?

Keep us up to date on the TV special!

Edit: Chuck or Chunk? :confused:

AWESOME.

Can't wait for the reviews from Drive Time.

Keep us posted asap.

First off, thanks HyperTF for noticing the 'chuck' misspelling. It is, indeed, chunk (my bad). :D

To answer your questions; Sprintex aren't sure how the chunk came to be there in the Cat. It is semi-circular and appears (to them) to be some sort of 'residue' from the manufacturing process. However, rather than take a chance on it just being a one-off, they've decided to include a new Cat with all future kits.

As regards the fuel filter, Mitsubishi recommend changing the filter after 50,00Ks. Again, rather than taking a chance that cars with that amount of Ks or more have, in fact, had the filter replaced, they are supplying one in the kit.

VR-X II

Ok did you have to replace the fuel pump for a high flowing one?


Remind me again. How many lbs of boost are you running? And what is recommended for a stock motor with not internals done?

Great news VR-X II, hope you beast comes comes back allot more powerfull :badgrin: .

Keep the updates comming!!! :P

Wow thats awsome :) where are you?
Epping rd? thats sorta close.

epping road to the m2 woulda been from the city towards the west, nice straight road where you can pretty much just rip it...

from the m2 entrance on epping road.. i'm about 5 mins away.. i'm pretty sure the m2 pretty much runs right underneath my house (well not exactly.. kinda runs behind my house)

i want a supercharger now.. :cry:

Just quite the chatter and bring this thing out so we can all see.. lol lol lol

my cat had a chunk in it to... mitsi replaced it under warranty :)

Thats awsome chad! good to hear the car is in good hands and will come back better than ever! catch up with you soon mate

How did you know you had a chunk in it stacky??

Yeah exactly how did they find it.

Also if u are able to ask them exactly where this part was that was blocking flow pls do share it as it might help the rest of us.

Tom

Yeah exactly how did they find it.
Maybe while they were bashing the guts out of the cat with a broom handle it just wouldn't break off lol


...jokes ;)

Maybe while they were bashing the guts out of the cat with a broom handle it just wouldn't break off lol


...jokes ;)


Sounds like you know what your doing..

U wanna do mine Neil..??? :D

hehe, phwar, thats cool. very cool :cool:


i'm lost for words.....
i want one :cry:

What can I say? I want to be you. If god told me to lose both nuts and I could have your car you can call me Darlene in the Yellow VRX. :shock:

I heard the sound, I looked at the work, I've read all the updates and I sit here with a hard on. THIS is what I wanted to do with my current magna. But I think the KM's will be getting along now and the more I see these AWD Quadtecs the more I want to update in a few years. I think that is what I might do instead. Then the price of these S/c's will have come down abit. Purple, dropped on 19's with S/c.

Well done for the effort and great to see you used a dedicated company for the work. There aren't nearly enough of them out there.

HAHAHAHA good one HyperTF lol

maybe i should do that this weekend, now to find that dreaded cat thats been walking on my moms car as a high flow replacement. :badgrin:

Tom

I heard the sound, I looked at the work, I've read all the updates and I sit here with a hard on.
:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

don't worry your not the only one :dancin:

What can I say? I want to be you. If god told me to lose both nuts and I could have your car you can call me Darlene in the Yellow VRX. :shock:


:S well i sertantly wouldent give up change of children to own a supercharged VRX.... im not setteling for a test tube baby. i want to do it my self :D

I have a 4yo son .... I've done the work for the kids. Take my balls and give me the car.

And, just to put the icing on the cake, the TV motoring show, Drive Time, produced by Channel 10 in Perth, are going to do a feature on my car to see how it stacks-up against the AWD Sprintex Magna!

At the wheel will be ex-Mitsubishi works WRC driver, Tolley Challis (also the presenter of Drive Time). He'll be doing 1/4 mile runs, gymkhana tests and maybe even some track work. All of which will be videoed, with me getting multiple copies to share with AMC members! Hey VR-X II,I taped Drivetime last nite,but i only saw the awd sprintex,V8 MG S.C. and the harley S.C. but did'nt see yours insight :redface:
Maybe next week it'll be on perhaps?
Has ur VR-X been tested of late?

How did you know you had a chunk in it stacky??

the bloke who put me pacemakers on seen it, took it down to mitsi and got whole new cat :)(after i convinced them to!! didnt want to because i had the pacemakers lol ) it was about the size of two 20c coins side buy side and about as thick

Both the Dyno-testing and the shoot by DriveTime TV should be done next week. :thumbsup:

VR-X II

Okies, here's the latest on my Sprintex Magna:

It will be going to Genie for the exhaust work on Monday morning and should be ready by the afternoon.

Then it will be run-in (maybe a couple of hundred Ks) until Tuesday a.m. sometime and then Dyno-tested and tuned. I'm really sweating on this bit because after talking with the Chief Technician for Sprintex on Friday, 270kW and 500Nm is not an unrealistic possibility!

And, the car is 100% street-legal! :thumbsup:

Depending on the Dyno results, we may go to a high-performance fuel pump and maybe even larger injectors.

Later on Tuesday or Wednesday morning, the car will be put through its paces by Channel 10 Perth's DriveTime TV show for an up-coming program. Could involve dragging and gymkana, depending on the weather and what tracks are available. I will get several DVD copies of the program, so I can pass them around if anyone's interested in seeing the car perform and what DriveTime TV have to say about it.

Now, for the best part - the car should be on its way back to me by Thursday, which means that I should have it back here in Sydney before the end of the month.

Here's a couple of small pix and one HUGE one Sprintex sent me on Friday, after the engine was put back together:

http://www.copp.com.au/wapic1.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/wapic2.jpg

http://www.copp.com.au/wapic3.jpg

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do they want to do a manual? i'll throw my car on a train 2morrow!

Yup, I'm sure they'd do 'mates rates' for ya, Jase! ;)

VR-X II

Very, very nice, just need to cover over that battery and that engine bay will have such a clean look to it.

Will a strut brace fit over the sprintex plenum? The torque steer on that thing must be crazy without one...

well done!

Chad have u considered LSD? can u do that in an auto?

You havn't got an LSD in there yet??? Geez get one in already!

The car has Traction Control and seemed to do the job before all the extra mods. Don't know what it will be like when I get the car back though. Can you have a LSD and Traction Control at the same time on a Tippy? If so, that will probably be the way I'll go if it's needed.

Also, I'll talk with Sprintex on Monday about a strut brace. They look good in the engine bay but I don't want one unless it improves performance.

Can you buy battery covers for Magnas? If so, where, please?

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Can you buy battery covers for Magnas? If so, where, please? AFAIK, all 3rd gens came with them. Pick one up at the wreckers, maybe? Or get a new one from Mitsu..

I think they stopped at TJ or TJ II

Also, I'll talk with Sprintex on Monday about a strut brace. They look good in the engine bay but I don't want one unless it improves performance.

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Mate, its one of the best mods you can get and for $170, its hard to knock. It'll improve your steering response and help disipate a lot of torque steer when you floor it. Most will agree. Just get one from phillcom. It should fit with the supercharger too going by your pics, heres one of mine taken fairly level for you to go off:http://filepimp.meshteam.com/fp89/fp_pic_Strut Brace.jpg

Also, I'll talk with Sprintex on Monday about a strut brace. They look good in the engine bay but I don't want one unless it improves performance.


They are not for making your engine bay to look good. They are used for a purpose. Considering you've got that much more power on tap, the next thing is to get that power to the wheels (and onto the road) as efficiently as possible. The use of anti-lift, strut braces and sway bars are the key components that will help you do this as they aid in weight transfer (amongst other things).

I don't know much about Magna's traction control since I don't have that feature, so I find it hard to get power down to the wheels efficiently on my stock Magna.

That said, if you can get traction without having to totally rely on electronic traction control, then that would be your aim.

I don't know if you can get LSD on your auto box since there is not a lot of room in the engine bay, but yes its entirely possible to have LSD, traction control and an auto gearbox working together .

I don't know much about Magna's traction control since I don't have that feature, so I find it hard to get power down to the wheels efficiently on my stock Magna.
Traction control basically works not by increasing your traction, but by decreasing power to the wheels until traction is regained. Hence, it's a safety feature, not a performance feature. If you want to make use of lots of power, you're going to need other items already mentioned such as LSD, strut brace, etc.

Mate, its one of the best mods you can get and for $170, its hard to knock. It'll improve your steering response and help disipate a lot of torque steer when you floor it. Most will agree. Just get one from phillcom. It should fit with the supercharger too going by your pics, heres one of mine taken fairly level for you to go off:http://filepimp.meshteam.com/fp89/fp_pic_Strut Brace.jpg


That picture is a spin out.. look me two mins to figure out whats going on.. lol lol

Can you buy battery covers for Magnas? If so, where, please?


Some 3rd gens came with them. When TJ series II came out they scrapped the cover for one main reason. Heat builds up under the cover and apparently shortens your battery life..
Just thought i'd let ya know.. An idea would be, get one and vent it at the top properly..

Cheers

That picture is a spin out.. look me two mins to figure out whats going on.. lol lol

yeh same.. its taken from such a weird angle

That picture is a spin out.. look me two mins to figure out whats going on.. lol lol

You know how it is........too much sex makes your eyes go screwy :P

But yeah, it is a spin out I guess. lol

Traction control basically works not by increasing your traction, but by decreasing power to the wheels until traction is regained. Hence, it's a safety feature, not a performance feature.

Correct. That's why in the Magnas, the TC vacuum control is mounted on the TB. It activates to close the TB and reduce torque generation at the throttle, not by reducing power from the gearbox to the wheels or otherwise.

Battery Cover:

Battery Covers I thought were retained thru to TW? It's there to protect the battery from boiling when the car is in traffic and exposed to massive underhood temps. I removed mine (TJ2 AWD) when installed my CAI and boiled the battery over - actually marked the underside of the bonnet :shock: as acid does.....

Sooo, if I had a LSD and switched the TCL off, that would be the best way to go? In other words, the LSD would be better and the TCL would be redundant?

VR-X II

Sooo, if I had a LSD and switched the TCL off, that would be the best way to go? In other words, the LSD would be better and the TCL would be redundant?

VR-X II

ive driven the auto(TCL, no lsd) and the Manual(LSD, no tcl) Ralliarts, and i have to say i found the LSD to do a much better job. I found the TCL annoying.

Take care ordering the Strut Brace; make sure you can return it if it doesn't fit. There is little room above a standard SOHC 6G74 before hitting the bonnet - you can also see in the photo that there is little room between the engine and the strut brace. My DOHC 6G72 engine is taller than my previous SOHC 6G74 and my strut brace no longer fits. I will have to get a custom strut brace made up, going from the front struts back along the firewall - maybe even bolting to the firewall as well.

With the new LSD, I haven't noticed the lack of front strut brace, but with Perth's wet weather, I haven't been able to safely drive the car hard. Sunday drag racing at Kwinana was cancelled 'due to inclement weather'. BAH.

BTW - closely following your supercharging work - excellent!!

Take care ordering the Strut Brace; make sure you can return it if it doesn't fit. There is little room above a standard SOHC 6G74 before hitting the bonnet - you can also see in the photo that there is little room between the engine and the strut brace. My DOHC 6G72 engine is taller than my previous SOHC 6G74 and my strut brace no longer fits. I will have to get a custom strut brace made up, going from the front struts back along the firewall - maybe even bolting to the firewall as well.

With the new LSD, I haven't noticed the lack of front strut brace, but with Perth's wet weather, I haven't been able to safely drive the car hard. Sunday drag racing at Kwinana was cancelled 'due to inclement weather'. BAH.

BTW - closely following your supercharging work - excellent!!

so, you're saying that your brace doesnt fit your 3.0L but it fit your 3.5L? :nuts: :nuts: you sure you installed it correctly? check that its correctly installed mate..... i think you'll find that they are the same product number.

so, you're saying that your brace doesnt fit your 3.0L but it fit your 3.5L? :nuts: :nuts: you sure you installed it correctly? check that its correctly installed mate..... i think you'll find that they are the same product number.

Remember he's not running the aussie delivered SOHC 6G72, but a DOHC MIVEC 6G72. It's possible it really is a different size up top.

sorry, my bad..... didnt read the dohc bit, just saw sohc :gtfo:

When trying to refit the brace, I could secure it to one bracket (I had left them on) but the brace rests on the (DOHC) engine with a vertical air-gap at the other bracket ie engine is now too tall.

So, I was cautioning VRX-II to be aware that a standard brace may not fit over his (lucky B) supercharger, as the supercharger may increase the height of his engine.

also, seeing VR-X II is auto, he can't get an LSD, unlesss we find one that fits (kinda like how RPW found the FTO one fits magnas?) i'm guessing if we start looking around the auto evo's and fto's and other similar mitsi cars that are available in japan someone might get lucky

Sooo, if I had a LSD and switched the TCL off, that would be the best way to go? In other words, the LSD would be better and the TCL would be redundant?
For outright performance, definitely. TCL still has some validity as a safety feature, though. Remember it works to save your butt in understeer situations as well as for wheelspin.

Yet another up-date (wishing it was the last, I'm reeeeeally hanging-out to get the car back):

Well, my Sprintex Magna is nearly ready to go. As of yesterday, they were working on a 'lean' issue. They have probably gone with a bigger fuel filter and high-performance fuel pump to solve the problem.

Dyno results yesterday indicated 240kW, could be a bit more with the lean issue solved. At this stage, we're looking at around 200kW at the wheels. Sprintex will email me a print-out of the final results, which I'll post for all to see.

Channel 10 Perth was supposed to have shot the DriveTime TV segment either yesterday afternoon or this morning but I got an email saying it's been bucketing down in Perth for the past few days and the shoot has been delayed until the weather clears up.

Hopefully (IT BETTER BE :rant: ), the car will be on its way back to Sydney on Tuesday.

In the meantime, Sprintex sent me a pic of the modded rear-end:

http://www.copp.com.au/rear.jpg

VR-X II

Yet another up-date (wishing it was the last, I'm reeeeeally hanging-out to get the car back):

Well, my Sprintex Magna is nearly ready to go. As of yesterday, they were working on a 'lean' issue. They have probably gone with a bigger fuel filter and high-performance fuel pump to solve the problem.

Dyno results yesterday indicated 240kW, could be a bit more with the lean issue solved. At this stage, we're looking at around 200kW at the wheels. Sprintex will email me a print-out of the final results, which I'll post for all to see.

Channel 10 Perth was supposed to have shot the DriveTime TV segment either yesterday afternoon or this morning but I got an email saying it's been bucketing down in Perth for the past few days and the shoot has been delayed until the weather clears up.

Hopefully (IT BETTER BE :rant: ), the car will be on its way back to Sydney on Tuesday.

In the meantime, Sprintex sent me a pic of the modded rear-end:

http://www.copp.com.au/rear.jpg

VR-X II
Looks really good. very geolous.
Super charger, Plus twin pips :rant:

Very cool!

Looking forward to seeing a dyno sheet and some strip times :thumbsup:

Excellent!
Looking MINT! :D:D

Wow that's looking unreal!
Cant wait to see some video clips of it in action! Or better yet check it out at MM05 :D.

r u going to put a BOV on it, or is it set up not to have one?
cheers
Rhys

r u going to put a BOV on it, or is it set up not to have one?
cheers
Rhys
Umm, arent BOVs meant for TURBO applications. A supercharger will keep providing boost, even if the engine is revving high(ish) and ur foot isnt on the pedal.

not always my kombi was supercharged and had a bov, wasnt as loud and didnt relise much pressure but it did have one, there are different types of supercharges avaliable some do it some dont
cheers
Rhys

Nope, no BOV, just the sound of a jet engine right through the rev range. :cool:

VR-X II

awesome!

Pls post up when the Drivetime TV segment will be shown - you will have an huge audience!

WOOT! It finally stopped raining in Perth. The DriveTime TV segment is being shot as I write this! I'll have an idea how it went in a few hours (Perth is 2 hrs behind Sydney time).

Sooo, hopefully, the Sprintex Magna will be on its way home tomorrow and back in my hands in around 8 days or less! :D

VR-X II

WOOT! It finally stopped raining in Perth. The DriveTime TV segment is being shot as I write this! I'll have an idea how it went in a few hours (Perth is 2 hrs behind Sydney time).

Sooo, hopefully, the Sprintex Magna will be on its way home tomorrow and back in my hands in around 8 days or less! :D

VR-X II
good stuff, I wouldn't wanna be apart from a machine like that for more than a hour. Duno how your doin iy

Just got off the phone with Sprintex. The Sprintex Magna is still 'out there' with the Channel 10 crew and Tony Hamilton, the Sprintex MD. Hopefully, they have finished the shoot and aren't now just cruisin' the streets of Perth looking for chicks. :D But, who could blame them? :cool:

According to Jay Upton, the Sprintex GM, the car has officially achieved 257kW at the flywheel and 206kW at the wheels!!!

And, most importantly, the car is 100% street-legal!

My advice: if you are truly a Magna enthusiast, save all your hard-earned dollars for the day that you can say, "Hello Sprintex, Supercharge me, please!" Heaven is only a phone call away on (08) 9262-7222!

VR-X II

Does anyone know what the AWD versions got at the wheels?

Approximately 180kW.

VR-X II

Congrats, thats some nice power!

Now a manual Ralliart with the same percentage power increase would be very interesting! :D

Have sprintex finalised the kit and what is included in it for 'X' ammount of dollars etc yet and what warranty/garuntee is there?

According to Jay Upton, the Sprintex GM, the car has officially achieved 257kW at the flywheel and 206kW at the wheels!!!

And, most importantly, the car is 100% street-legal!

My advice: if you are truly a Magna enthusiast, save all your hard-earned dollars for the day that you can say, "Hello Sprintex, Supercharge me, please!" Heaven is only a phone call away on (08) 9262-7222!

VR-X II Post up a dyno sheet will you! I want to look at the torque on it.

And the most import thing is not that its street legal, its what time it does down the 1/4 mile!

Just got off the phone with Sprintex. The Sprintex Magna is still 'out there' with the Channel 10 crew and Tony Hamilton, the Sprintex MD. Hopefully, they have finished the shoot and aren't now just cruisin' the streets of Perth looking for chicks. :D But, who could blame them? :cool:

According to Jay Upton, the Sprintex GM, the car has officially achieved 257kW at the flywheel and 206kW at the wheels!!!

And, most importantly, the car is 100% street-legal!

My advice: if you are truly a Magna enthusiast, save all your hard-earned dollars for the day that you can say, "Hello Sprintex, Supercharge me, please!" Heaven is only a phone call away on (08) 9262-7222!

VR-X II

they better give you good warranty on your car and i hope they are looking after you $$$ coz your car is copping an absoulute pounding.

:shock: thats nearly 100kW @ the flywheel increase!! definately not bad for a $7000 kit!

Does anyone know what the AWD versions got at the wheels?

The glossy brochure for the Sprintex Supercharged AWD turn key says 225kw.

The glossy brochure for the Sprintex Supercharged AWD turn key says 225kw.

225kw at the flywheel, would be less at the wheels though so 180kw sounds about right.

Yep, 225kW (at the flywheel) is what Sprintex claim for a standard AWD Magna.

However, my FWD VR-X is not standard, thus the 257kW outcome.

And, sorry Bain, but unless you have a car that is for the track only, 100% street-legal is very much the most important thing. Unless, of course, if you want to be a 'cop magnet' and are prepared to cop all the sh*t that that involves. I, for one, don't.

Based on Jase's 14.006 with 153kW at the wheels, well, do the maths yourself...

Should have a Dynapack printout of the results in the next day or so. And, btw, a Dynapack 'dyno' with a barometric station is arguably the most accurate 'dyno' going and it's the one that Sprintex use. www.dynapack.com

No apologies for being able to blow-off Holdens and Fords. After all, that was my goal as a Magna-man! Some people keep the faith. Others, well...

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:pray: :pray:

WE ARE NOT WORTHY OH GREAT ONE!! :bowdown:

THE PATH IS NOW CLEAR :pray:

SELL FIANCE TO SLAVERY AND SEEK THE PATH TO THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE :bowdown:

And, btw, a Dynapack 'dyno' with a barometric station is arguably the most accurate 'dyno' going and it's the one that Sprintex use.

most accurate dyno..... as compared to? "X" brand of dyno? but according to "X" brand's website, they too claim to have arguably the most accurate dyno..... and then so does "Y" brand's website too!

its all subjective mate, dyno's like any other instrument used to calculate anything, relies on the data and variables that are input into it. ie, you can get a bog stock civic to show 900kw, depending on the data you feed into it before you make the run. dont get me wrong, they are fantastic as a guide to guage how much you are approximately putting out. but they are not the 'holy grail' to measuring EXACTLY how much power you have. and as for using one dyno printout to compare with another dyno printout.... pfft fuggedaboudit

not flamin, just informin

Based on Jase's 14.006 with 153kW at the wheels, well, do the maths yourself...
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Well based on Jase's time, it would seem you will be spinning your wheels alot.

I want to see times done in the car. Real proof of the power, Booya's car had 266fw kw's and was pulling 15 sec quarters (when he went down one) cause all he got was wheel spin.

As John said about dyno's you can fluff a dyno to read higher than its showing.

What shootout mode was used?

Anyhow, its still a great effort. Has the cabin noise toned down a bit now? Seemed pretty loud from the first video you took of it.

Now a manual Ralliart with the same percentage power increase would be very interesting! :D
I'd think there wouldn't be too much in it. Maybe 10kW or so. Would be good to see though.

VR-X II - keep us posted on the TV slot, or pls consider (sounds like a Mitsi ad from years ago :gtfo: ) producing copies of the DVD they are sending you. Including the cruising for chicks!

Will be interested in some of the supercharger settings eg boost level, and how they fixed the leaning problem you mentioned earlier.

BUT VERY WELL DONE, MATE!! Sometimes you have to pioneer new stuff, so congrats for having the kahunas (spelling?).

Time now for some head work and a cam change! :cool:

Yeaaa, the car is definitely leaving Perth today! Hopefully will be back in Sydney by Monday or Tuesday.

The DriveTime TV segment will be aired in Perth this Thursday at around 11:30pm, I think. I've had an offer from bondy in Melbourne to convert a copy of the DVD I get into .avi format so that I will be able to post it on the Forum for all to see. Can't wait to see it myself. Apparently, Tollie Challis, the presenter of the show was very pleased with the car when he put it through its paces. Being a professional rally driver, the only thing he wasn't too chuffed about was the hand-brake turns. But hey, it's a FWD and a Tippy, so who cares!

The boost level is set to 7psi and the lean issue was solved by replacing the air-flow direction baffles/sensors in the airbox that I had asked Sprintex to take out 'cos I thought it would be an improvement (wrong!). Guess MMAL knew what they were doing spending all those millions on R&D.

The heads have been ported and polished which really helped to get the kWs up to 257. The 3" high-flow CAT and high-flow dual mufflers helped as well.

Okies, just to clear the decks, I just want to say that I didn't do this project so that I could end-up with the fastest Magna in the Club (bragging rights).

I did it to be able to beat (most) Commodores and Falcons.

If my car has become the benchmark for other Magna owners, then so be it. But, I look forward to the day when someone in the Club hits the 280-300kW mark. Wouldn't that be a turn-out for the books and really wipe the smirks off the faces of all those 'lion' and 'blue oval' drivers!

VR-X II

Okies, just to clear the decks, I just want to say that I didn't do this project so that I could end-up with the fastest Magna in the Club (bragging rights).

I did it to be able to beat (most) Commodores and Falcons.
Don't worry, I think it's fair to say that of the few cars which have actually been quite modified, you and your car hasn't had much, if any negative feedback from anyone.

Well done. Just hope you're has happy with the results onroad as what's been indicated so far.

If my car has become the benchmark for other Magna owners, then so be it. But, I look forward to the day when someone in the Club hits the 280-300kW mark. Wouldn't that be a turn-out for the books and really wipe the smirks off the faces of all those 'lion' and 'blue oval' drivers!


ummm no offence, but 300 flywheel kW would barely raise an eyebrow to LOTS of LS1/2 and XR6T owners :neutral: hell, even some supercharged6 commodores.

Very respectable for a magna mate, just dont get too far ahead of yourself :)

If my car has become the benchmark for other Magna owners, then so be it. But, I look forward to the day when someone in the Club hits the 280-300kW mark. Wouldn't that be a turn-out for the books and really wipe the smirks off the faces of all those 'lion' and 'blue oval' drivers!

You do realise that Mitsiman, Velocity and Booya and at least one anonymous Queenslander all have more powerful motors than you, right?

Last I heard (a while ago) Mitsiman had over 300kW at the wheels!!! :P

ummm no offence, but 300 flywheel kW would barely raise an eyebrow to LOTS of LS1/2 and XR6T owners :neutral: hell, even some supercharged6 commodores.

Very respectable for a magna mate, just dont get too far ahead of yourself :)
This is true, with the cost of Edits coming down ($1200 + $500 for custom tune if you chose to get one) and being more frequent, it is pretty hard to pick whats modified out there and whats not.

But after all's said and done, its who sees the others tail lights at the end of it :)

Looking forward to hearing the whine of the SC at MM05.

ummm no offence, but 300 flywheel kW would barely raise an eyebrow to LOTS of LS1/2 and XR6T owners :neutral: hell, even some supercharged6 commodores.

Very respectable for a magna mate, just dont get too far ahead of yourself :)

Last time i heard XR6T and even the top holdens are not even at 300kw at flywheel. XR6T only doing mid 200? I think anyways. Plus, aren't magna's lighter than holden?

booya 306kw atw
velocity tt 300kw atw i think
mitsiman i think is over 300kw atw
silver_bullet would be up there somewhere too as hes got a TR; GTO twin turbo-modded, i've seen a dyno graph for a stockish GTO~200kw atw stock boost etc...
oh and i nearly forgot
GTRICE ~1 Millionkw atw

Last time i heard XR6T and even the top holdens are not even at 300kw at flywheel. XR6T only doing mid 200? I think anyways. Plus, aren't magna's lighter than holden?

its hardly fair comparing a well modded magna to a stock holden or ford now is it :nuts:

I think you guys are being a bit harsh. He's the first member who we knowingly has a functioning supercharged engine and is the first non-AWD Sprintex kit which wasn't their initial aim so it is a benchmark of sorts. It's just not the most powerful car here, that's all.

Redav, the only thing that i had issues with was this statement:



Wouldn't that be a turn-out for the books and really wipe the smirks off the faces of all those 'lion' and 'blue oval' drivers!
VR-X II

All? some yes, and thats one of the best things about owning a magna, shutting down commos/falcons, but a lot of LS1/2 and XR6T owners would laugh at that comment right there.

It happens a bit around here that power goes to peoples heads. Ego's skyrocket more rapidly than their respective power curves.

Other than that, i love what VRX II has done. Good on him for biting the bullet and spending up big to make a fast magna. I genuinely look forward to seeing some good 1/4 mile times :)

I think you guys are being a bit harsh. He's the first member who we knowingly has a functioning supercharged engine and is the first non-AWD Sprintex kit which wasn't their initial aim so it is a benchmark of sorts. It's just not the most powerful car here, that's all.

Agreed. Let's not knock our own (plenty of Holden and Ford drivers will do that for us quite happily!). I think it's great that someone has gone the non-AWD s/c route and look forward to seeing it action one day hopefully.

I think you guys are being a bit harsh. He's the first member who we knowingly has a functioning supercharged engine and is the first non-AWD Sprintex kit which wasn't their initial aim so it is a benchmark of sorts. It's just not the most powerful car here, that's all.

:stoopid: As my sig says, who cares.

Good to see 3rd gen Magnas now have the option to bolt-on a forced induction kit to rival other force-fed performance cars..... :P

Redav, the only thing that i had issues with was this statement:
You're being a bit literal there. Of course his car isn't going to be faster then every car made by them.


:stoopid: As my sig says, who cares.
Wow, you must be smart to know that.

I think you guys are being a bit harsh. He's the first member who we knowingly has a functioning supercharged engine and is the first non-AWD Sprintex kit which wasn't their initial aim so it is a benchmark of sorts. It's just not the most powerful car here, that's all.

Bah. What's the point of an online community if you can't humiliate or otherwise poke fun at other people? If everyone was reasonable it just wouldn't be the Internet. :gtfo:

You're being a bit literal there

perhaps, but i sensed an air of arrogance which is what made me interpret it the way i did.

Bah. What's the point of an online community if you can't humiliate or otherwise poke fun at other people? If everyone was reasonable it just wouldn't be the Internet. :gtfo:
:bowrofl: I know, but this is just typical Aussie Magna at it's best. No wonder those annonymous members with powerful cars don't post up.

Wow, you must be smart to know that.

Nah I'm not. You're the smartass one. :bowrofl:

Geez, I don't believe some of you guys. Okies, I'll try to spell it out one more time:

I am 100% for Mitsubishi and against Holdens and Fords. Why? Because THEY, most of them anyway, are the ones who are arrogant and think that Magnas are cr*p and not a force to be reckoned with. I am out to prove they are wrong.

Obviously, there are Holdens and Fords out there (especially modded ones) capable of blowing the doors off even the best, highly modded Magnas - always were, always will be.

What I am about is to try to get them to think twice and maybe, just maybe, develop some respect for us. By 'us', I mean those of us who are dedicated Magna owners - not those who drive one atm 'cos it's all they can afford and secretly can't wait until the day that they can step-up (in their minds) to a Holden or Ford. You know who you are; it's obvious by your posts and your attitudes.

Of course, my Sprintex Magna is not the most powerful one around. But, then again, it is 100% street-legal , gets most of its power to the ground without wheel-spin from here to next Tuesday and best of all, the mods have been accepted by my insurance company. It's all good and no worries.

To those who have supported me with my project, I say, thanks for that, mates. And to those who don't, good luck with your future Holden or Ford purchase. Can't say fairer than that.

Clear?

VR-X II - a PROUD, not arrogant Magna owner

What I am about is to try to get them to think twice and maybe, just maybe, develop some respect for us. By 'us', I mean those of us who are dedicated Magna owners - not those who drive one atm 'cos it's all they can afford and secretly can't wait until the day that they can step-up (in their minds) to a Holden or Ford. You know who you are; it's obvious by your posts and your attitudes.

An XR6 Turbo is on my list of cars I woud love to own, but so are many. I have wanted to have a magna ever since my Dad first got them for work back in 1996. When (if) my TS dies, I will most likely move onto another one.


Of course, my Sprintex Magna is not the most powerful one around. But, then again, it is 100% street-legal , gets most of its power to the ground and best of all, the mods have been accepted by my insurance company. It's all good and no worries.
Awesome! Who are you with for insurance? Im with NRMA. They hate me.........($500 basic excess, $400 age excess, $600 me excess, all because I had an accident....)

Im with NRMA. They hate me.........($500 basic excess, $400 age excess, $600 me excess, all because I had an accident....)
Sure it's not because of those glasses you're wearing? Hehehe... :badgrin:

Geez, I don't believe some of you guys. Okies, I'll try to spell it out one more time:

I am 100% for Mitsubishi and against Holdens and Fords. Why? Because THEY, most of them anyway, are the ones who are arrogant and think that Magnas are cr*p and not a force to be reckoned with. I am out to prove they are wrong.

Obviously, there are Holdens and Fords out there (especially modded ones) capable of blowing the doors off even the best, highly modded Magnas - always were, always will be.

What I am about is to try to get them to think twice and maybe, just maybe, develop some respect for us. By 'us', I mean those of us who are dedicated Magna owners - not those who drive one atm 'cos it's all they can afford and secretly can't wait until the day that they can step-up (in their minds) to a Holden or Ford. You know who you are; it's obvious by your posts and your attitudes.

Of course, my Sprintex Magna is not the most powerful one around. But, then again, it is 100% street-legal , gets most of its power to the ground without wheel-spin from here to next Tuesday and best of all, the mods have been accepted by my insurance company. It's all good and no worries.

To those who have supported me with my project, I say, thanks for that, mates. And to those who don't, good luck with your future Holden or Ford purchase. Can't say fairer than that.

Clear?

VR-X II - a PROUD, not arrogant Magna owner
Unfortunately mate, i dont think the FORD or Holden crowd will ever respect Magna's...

Since stepping into a Ford, you certainly notice the difference between a Ford/Holden driver and a Magna driver, the sheer arrogance is amazing.

As i said to the guys on one of our Vic cruises. I drive a ford, but im a magna man at heart. Only reason I sold was because of the power issues. You spend $8k on getting 257fly kw's + whatever else youve spent on port and polishing and stuff... For that same amount of money im looking at roughly 400-450rwkw's out of my Turbo, some people like myself bought other manufacturers cars because Mitsubishi will never produce something i require. (large family sized sedan with mod potential)

If you think your money was well spent, then kudos to you. At the end of the day, do what your heart desires if your wallet can support it.

Dont become one-eyed like most Holden and Ford people. Mitsubishi isnt the be all and end all of car manufacturers.

love me TS allways did since they first came out. (well TR and TS) :D :D :D

Unfortunately mate, i dont think the FORD or Holden crowd will ever respect Magna's...

Since stepping into a Ford, you certainly notice the difference between a Ford/Holden driver and a Magna driver, the sheer arrogance is amazing.

As i said to the guys on one of our Vic cruises. I drive a ford, but im a magna man at heart. Only reason I sold was because of the power issues. You spend $8k on getting 257fly kw's + whatever else youve spent on port and polishing and stuff... For that same amount of money im looking at roughly 400-450rwkw's out of my Turbo, some people like myself bought other manufacturers cars because Mitsubishi will never produce something i require. (large family sized sedan with mod potential)

If you think your money was well spent, then kudos to you. At the end of the day, do what your heart desires if your wallet can support it.

Dont become one-eyed like most Holden and Ford people. Mitsubishi isnt the be all and end all of car manufacturers.


Quite probably right about the respect but it would be great to shame one of the above or even just give them a run for their money. And yes dollar for dollar modding either a very popular car (plenty of parts) or a turbo car will always yield more power. I really like XR6T's I would have one if insurance wasnt such a pain and if I didnt think I was going to get dead let alone keep a license because once I started modding it I wouldnt stop. This is my second magna/verada and I enjoy them and this forum a great deal.

Sure it's not because of those glasses you're wearing? Hehehe... :badgrin:
Alcohol, 50's dress up (hence stupid glasses and bow tie) and a camera pointed in my face at the wrong moment.....

As for Bain's reason as to why he bought his XR6 Turbo. Thats fair enough. Thats similar to why we have a bommydore as Dad's work car rather than a Camry. We need a car that can tow are boat with ease, and the camry was woeful when pulling the boat out of the water

Unfortunately mate, i dont think the FORD or Holden crowd will ever respect Magna's...

Since stepping into a Ford, you certainly notice the difference between a Ford/Holden driver and a Magna driver, the sheer arrogance is amazing.

As i said to the guys on one of our Vic cruises. I drive a ford, but im a magna man at heart. Only reason I sold was because of the power issues. You spend $8k on getting 257fly kw's + whatever else youve spent on port and polishing and stuff... For that same amount of money im looking at roughly 400-450rwkw's out of my Turbo, some people like myself bought other manufacturers cars because Mitsubishi will never produce something i require. (large family sized sedan with mod potential)

If you think your money was well spent, then kudos to you. At the end of the day, do what your heart desires if your wallet can support it.

Dont become one-eyed like most Holden and Ford people. Mitsubishi isnt the be all and end all of car manufacturers.

Agree, some people want bang for your buck, their not out to prove anything and just want somthing that performs for the least money spent....and you currenttly can not go past and XR6T in the large familly car segment :P

VRXII,

Job well done. Car goes fast, is fun to drive, is original, handles well, pisses off owners of more expensive popular branded performance cars, pulls the odd root. All you need is a keg in the boot :D

But seriously, how does the Auto tranny feel with full steam up? Strong? Flimsy? Nervous? Any work done by Sprintex on the Auto box itself?

:thumbsup:

Give the guy a wrap folks. He's got the bling, put it where his mouth is, taken the prize. The rest of us need to either step up or shut up. I think that's pretty fair.

Everything can be improved, but lets keep it in context: 7psi, 3.5L, fwd, auto, Aussie built car, stock internals, 250kw atf.

Holden S. 5psi, 3.8L, auto, aussie built, improved pistons and rods, 200kw atf.

VRX II.. When are you gunna join us on a crusie.. BTW.. We are going out to WSID agian on Wed.. why dont you come.. :D

We are going out to WSID agian on Wed.. why dont you come.. :D
DO It! Do it! (starsky and hutch style)

I'm hopeful my car will arrive back here in Sydney by Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday at the latest and I fully intend to live in it for at least a few days afterwards. In fact, if I could find a way to get it up 13 storys, I'd park it in the lounge-room! :D As you might guess, I'll be taking some time to get to know it all over again, so I'll pass on the drags this time.

It will be interesting though to see if it can run in the 13's, ideally, low-to-mid. That would do it for me. The mod wallet would go back into the hip pocket and I'd be a happy camper. :cool:

In the meantime, what I wouldn't mind doing is meeting-up with any Club members who want to see (and hear) the car and talk about the project. Maybe at a large industrial site's car park or National park or somewhere else that's accommodating.

VR-X II

It will be interesting though to see if it can run in the 13's, ideally, low-to-mid. That would do it for me. The mod wallet would go back into the hip pocket and I'd be a happy camper. :cool:
VR-X IIFor a ball park figure a stock 200rwkw xr6t can do a 13.8 - 14.3 pass, so you should definetely be in the mid to high 13's! (so long as you can keep the traction)

Are you going to run it down the strip for mm05? Would be a good run between our cars i think :) (you can hose me hehe)

Thanks for that Bain. I think the DriveTime TV guy was impressed with the car's traction & trace control and the general handling of it, as well. Btw, I'm probably the only one in the Club who doesn't know, but what, where and when is MM05?

VR-X II

Thanks for that Bain. I think the DriveTime TV guy was impressed with the car's traction & trace control and the general handling of it, as well. Btw, I'm probably the only one in the Club who doesn't know, but what, where and when is MM05?

VR-X IImm05 stands for Magna Meet 05. Its where a bunch of us enthusiast types get together to meet and greet for a few days (28th September - 3rd October)

Lucky for you its held this year in ...Sydney...

Check this thread out mate! http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14228

As for the traction control in the Magna's. They certainly handle power differently to how they handle if a Ford.

I noticed with my Magna if i got wheel spin it would cut power and then come back on when the wheels had traction. In the ford it reduces power.

let us know when you get the dvd of the drivetime article underdog :)

Good stuff, as always, Bain mate. :thumbsup:

I'd be good to know the pluses and minuses, in your opinion, of both the 'cut' and 'reduces' TLC systems.

I especially like the Trace Control part of the Mitsi system. My car never feels like it's under-steering and takes corners as if it's on rails. On quick starts, traction seems to take hold very quickly (not much drama coming from the wheels) and away you go...launched!

Mind, that was when the car only had 225kW and 430Nm. What it was be like when it gets back from WA will be interesting to see. :D

Also, it will be very interesting to hear what Tollie Challis, the DriveTime TV presenter and rally driver, had to say about the car and how it performed.

The show airs tonight in Perth at 11:30, I believe. Because I couldn't wait for the DVD to be sent over, I contacted a mate of mine in the broadcasting industry, who, in turn, called a mate (also in the industry), and it has been arranged for my mate to be able to record a high-band VHS copy of the show, 'live' as seen on WA TV from here in Sydney. My mate's on night-shift and said he will drop it in to me tomorrow morning.

VR-X II

Good stuff, as always, Bain mate. :thumbsup:

I'd be good to know the pluses and minuses, in your opinion, of both the 'cut' and 'reduces' TLC systems.
I think both are designed pretty well and work as they are intended.

As i understand it, cutting power on a FWD vehicle would be the better and optimum option for handling and speed. If you reduce the power you are still going to lose traction, whereas taking the power away and then reapplying at a safer level seems more the go. I noticed when my car was lowered it used the TCL alot more. (probably because i was taking corners at higher spees though). Perhaps the TCL acts differently with an LSD in the Ralliart variant magnas?

The TC on the ford handles a little differently. With the LSD the TC reduces the power to keep both wheels from spinning, thus keeping it within safer levels. If the TC cant get the LSD to grip both wheels then power is cut drastically until both wheels have traction once again.

With the TC on, i can do a small bit of sideways action and then the car rights itself. If i turn off the TC i can fishtail to my hearts content.

Final opinion: Both have their place for their respective FWD and RWD applications.

Interesting. So, it seems like the TLC automatically 'lifts off' whenever it senses a loss of traction. Much the same as a driver might do 'manually' (working the brake and/or gas pedal), under the same circumstances.

VR-X II

Perhaps the TCL acts differently with an LSD in the Ralliart variant magnas?


The Ralliart doesnt come with an LSD in the auto and only has traction control in the auto.

In the meantime, what I wouldn't mind doing is meeting-up with any Club members who want to see (and hear) the car and talk about the project. Maybe at a large industrial site's car park or National park or somewhere else that's accommodating.

VR-X II

Name the time and place, would love to see and hear it in action!

heya ... just watched Drivetime, and what do i have to say .... im VERY jealous :P

that is one hell of a beast, looks like they treated it like one too :) Love those bonnet vents they put on .. they are mad.

All i really have to say is congratulations and that you should be really proud of ya Magna, great work.

Thanks for that, esemte. A lot of time, effort and money have gone into getting my Sprintex Magna to the stage it's at.

I watched the show at 7:15am today. A mate made a VHS copy for me. :D

It was great to see the car on a large Plasma but I was a little disappointed that Tolley Challis didn't really give his impressions of the car itself and the way it handled (or didn't) what he put it through. Maybe a more indepth follow-up segment is on the cards.

The only mention of performance was that the car was 240kW, up from 163kW. That was probably true on Monday, when they did the shoot. But, on Tuesday, the Sprintex team did their final tweaks and got it up to 257kW with 206 at the wheels.

Gotta go, the tapes starting again. lol

VR-X II

Thanks for that, esemte. A lot of time, effort and money have gone into getting my Sprintex Magna to the stage it's at.

I watched the show at 7:15am today. A mate made a VHS copy for me. :D

It was great to see the car on a large Plasma but I was a little disappointed that Tolley Challis didn't really give his impressions of the car itself and the way it handled (or didn't) what he put it through.

The only mention of performance was that the car was 240kW, up from 163kW. That was probably true on Monday, when they did the shoot. But, on Tuesday, the Sprintex team did their final tweaks and got it up to 257kW with 206 at the wheels.

Gotto go, the tapes starting again. lol

VR-X II

Are you planning to install an oil cooler for the transmission? Becuase that amount of power is sure to add a bit more heat to the auto. I'd love 200kW-ATW :P

The Sprintex Supercharger kit for auto/Tippy Magnas comes with an automatic transmission fluid cooler because the supercharger is lubed by it. Unlike the manual, which is lubed by engine oil and has an oil cooler included in the kit instead.

VR-X II

Tempting. So very tempting. Maybe when the wagon is paid off. Must keep an eye out for it next week while I'm in Sydney for work, Alexandria area.

I was highly annoyed last Friday because:

a - told family that I REALLY wanted to tape the Drivetime TV show.
b - setup tape etc and double-checked
c - got home after work Friday, and wife was watching the end of the midday movie, that she had taped because she had to go and do stuff
d - well, you know what tape she used, didn't she. She rewound the tape so her F%*KN movie would fit, and she let the tape run all the way through. :gtfo:

NOT HAPPY JAN! :rant: :rant: :rant:

So, if anyone has a tape of the show, I would appreciate a copy - in Perth BTW.

Is there a link for us ADSL people to view? :bowdown: :pray:

Is there a link for us ADSL people to view? :bowdown: :pray:
:stoopid:

:stoopid:
me 2.

underdog said that hed send me a copy of the dvd when it arrives.

so i can encode it and put it up on the net for AMC to watch to their hearts content.

yeah i remember i had a tape that said, " LUKES TAPE DO NOT TAPE OVER EVER "

wat does my mum do, Oooh All Saints is on oooh crap find a tape see's " LUKES TAPE DO NOT TAPE OVER EVER " ah he shouldnt want this.

PISSED OFF mind u that was about 3 years ago so im kinda over it.

Has/does The Show Air In Qld? :) ..if So,..when?

DriveTime TV only airs in WA, as far as I'm aware. But, as bondy said, as soon as I get the DVD from Ch. 10, I'll send a copy to him so that he can make an .avi file to post on the Forum.

VR-X II

sweeeeeeeeet!!!! :D

excellent! looking forward to it!

DriveTime TV only airs in WA, as far as I'm aware. But, as bondy said, as soon as I get the DVD from Ch. 10, I'll send a copy to him so that he can make an .avi file to post on the Forum.

VR-X II

that be great mate to send them to the formus so everyone can see how you car goes

The latest news is that Sprintex sent me an e-mail today saying that they received the DVD from Ch. 10 and will send it to me as soon as they make a copy.

I've been tracking the progress of my car's return home (via TNT Tracker) and the news is not good. It is currently in Melbourne and not due to arrive in Sydney until Monday, the 11th! That'll be 13 days since it left Perth!

Bloody Burke and Wills could have made better time!!!

VR-X II

The latest news is that Sprintex sent me an e-mail today saying that they received the DVD from Ch. 10 and will send it to me as soon as they make a copy.

I've been tracking the progress of my car's return home (via TNT Tracker) and the news is not good. It is currently in Melbourne and not due to arrive in Sydney until Monday, the 11th! That's 13 days since it left Perth.

Bloody Burke and Wills could have made better time!!!

VR-X II
Should have flown over and driven it back!

Hope it comes back as good as when you lent it. Because I'm guessing they gave it some.
13 days on the train, damn that sux, yeah I would've drove it and taken the coast road once in S.A., Great Ocean Road, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, nice and curvy.

The latest news is that Sprintex sent me an e-mail today saying that they received the DVD from Ch. 10 and will send it to me as soon as they make a copy.

I've been tracking the progress of my car's return home (via TNT Tracker) and the news is not good. It is currently in Melbourne and not due to arrive in Sydney until Monday, the 11th! That'll be 13 days since it left Perth!

Bloody Burke and Wills could have made better time!!!

VR-X II
i can pick it up from melb and drive it to syd for u if u want.. maybe.. 6 hours :D

Great to hear about your super charger I was in a new all wheel drive on 6/07/05 that has just come back to the dealer from being super charged it was impresive but a little flat of the mark and not helped by being an auto, When you hit about 60 kilometers it got up and went you have a VRX with the super charger is yours a manuall or an auto if it's an auto do you drive it with the traction control in or out and does it brake traction of the mark?? I find it hard to spend $7000 on a super charger for in you aplication a gain of 63 kilowatts extra and I am not being a negative person but I supose the bolt on power would save a lot of time in trial and error if you were to pull the engine out and start with head work cams ballancing plus the removal and refitting of the engine as well as runing in. My wifes drive is a ralliart number 273 of the production line and I have played with it a little but the comps 9.5 to 1 stock unfortunatly i would have to dropp the comp to run a super charger as it would have to run less boost than your VRX. My drive is a verada 2003 5 speed auto lowered with 17 and good years 235/45ZR17 Eagle F1 GS-D3 now theres a tyre for the wet.
One thing I can tell you both the cars were new and after running in the verada I installed the factory ralliart exahust from the cat back to the tail pipe the diference over the stock system was unbalievable even the service manager could not belive that it went harder than his manual VRX so its important to have a good exahust. The next step is extractors the stainless steel ceramic coated internally and externally ralliart ones are about $1000 and would be better than any after market ones how ever some one in S Australia has made them for the ralliart it's just a case of trying to find that out, as it would be cheaper to buy them from who ever made them originally. By the way did it cost 7 grand for the super charger. JIM.


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my thoughts exactly

Great to hear about your super charger I was in a new all wheel drive on 6/07/05 that has just come back to the dealer from being super charged it was impresive but a little flat of the mark and not helped by being an auto, When you hit about 60 kilometers it got up and went you have a VRX with the super charger is yours a manuall or an auto if it's an auto do you drive it with the traction control in or out and does it brake traction of the mark?? I find it hard to spend $7000 on a super charger for in you aplication a gain of 63 kilowatts extra and I am not being a negative person but I supose the bolt on power would save a lot of time in trial and error if you were to pull the engine out and start with head work cams ballancing plus the removal and refitting of the engine as well as runing in. My wifes drive is a ralliart number 273 of the production line and I have played with it a little but the comps 9.5 to 1 stock unfortunatly i would have to dropp the comp to run a super charger as it would have to run less boost than your VRX. My drive is a verada 2003 5 speed auto lowered with 17 and good years 235/45ZR17 Eagle F1 GS-D3 now theres a tyre for the wet.
One thing I can tell you both the cars were new and after running in the verada I installed the factory ralliart exahust from the cat back to the tail pipe the diference over the stock system was unbalievable even the service manager could not belive that it went harder than his manual VRX so its important to have a good exahust. The next step is extractors the stainless steel ceramic coated internally and externally ralliart ones are about $1000 and would be better than any after market ones how ever some one in S Australia has made them for the ralliart it's just a case of trying to find that out, as it would be cheaper to buy them from who ever made them originally. By the way did it cost 7 grand for the super charger. JIM.
_ :eh: _

even the service manager could not belive that it went harder than his manual VRX
:gtfo:


The next step is extractors the stainless steel ceramic coated internally and externally ralliart ones are about $1000 and would be better than any after market ones.
Can't see anyone parting with $1000 for a set of headers. If you do, send me a PM and I'll make it happen for you. :nuts:


how ever some one in S Australia has made them for the ralliart it's just a case of trying to find that out, as it would be cheaper to buy them from who ever made them originally.
:nuts: :doubt: :nuts:

I find it hard to spend $7000 on a super charger for in you aplication a gain of 63 kilowatts extra and I am not being a negative person but I supose the bolt on power would save a lot of time in trial and error if you were to pull the engine out and start with head work cams ballancing plus the removal and refitting of the engine as well as runing in.
Actually, peak power went up from 163kW to 257kW which is a gain of 94kW. But appart from that, you miss the point of forced induction. Torque will be up substantially everywhere in the range - by more than you could achieve using a naturally aspirated approach.

Oh, and you know that appart from the headers, the exhaust in the Ralliart is identical to the one in the VR-X?

Can't see anyone parting with $1000 for a set of headers. If you do, send me a PM and I'll make it happen for you.
It's actually not that hard to get a set of headers up to $1000 if you fork out for genuine HPC coating inside and out.

But for headers on their own.. I agree it's crazy! :nuts:

Get some runs done on the 1/4 mile dude, I wanna see what that beast is capable of!! Sounds awesome man.

IT'S BAAAAAACK!!!

What a great surprise for me: my Sprintex Magna actually arrived here in Sydney late Friday afternoon, although the TNT Logistics on-line Tracking site showed it wasn't due til Monday!

This post is late coming because, quite honestly, I haven't been out of the car much since then. :D

Also, I wanted (and still want), a bit of time to reflect and collect my thoughts about how the car performs now that the S/c conversion is complete. Okies, I've had time...it's AWESOME!!! lol

I just can't get over how the car performs, sounds and feels now.

The roads around these parts have been mainly wet for the past two days; but, wet or dry, the TCL is doing a great job of minimising wheel-spin. The car absolutely launches off the line, and gear-changes in the high 5s are magic. I'm sure (in the right hands), it will turn mid-to-low 13s.

The team at Sprintex have done an incredible job and I can't thank them enough. Apart from the addition of a couple of mods, the special attention (and secret tweaks) Sprintex provided, have lifted total kW's to 257, with 206kW at the wheels. Not sure about torque. Should get a confirmation later today, but I think it's around 460Nm. And the best thing is, it's all street-legal and bullet-proof (knock on wood)! :thumbsup:

Just noticed that the streets are dry, so I gotta go! I will just mention my insurance company though.

I phoned them to say that I wanted to add the Supercharger and exhaust mods to the suspension mod already listed on the policy and, also increase my coverage by $10K to cover the cost of the mods. Not only were they happy to add the mods, they didn't even increase my premium for the additional coverage! "Lucky you're with..." :D

VR-X II

Great news, man. Now get to a drag meet pronto. :badgrin:

:thumbsup: Awesome!!! Cant wait to see it in the flesh. Good thing im in Sydney too

Yeah go to the track and take a camera. I wanna see and hear the thing go through the gears.

wheres the AVI, i wanna see i wanna see, give him the dvd quickly so us qld's etc can view. :cry:

The DVD arrived in the post today. I'll sent it down to bondy in Melbourne tomorrow. :thumbsup:

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Hey guys. Got the DVD today. Im making a video up now. Ill post a thread on its own for it.

me thinks you should go out to WSID..........

Video up. See general section

Damn it sounds so sweet under load..... i want one. But i will wait until other companies start making the kit, coz then prices will go down ;)

Damn it sounds so sweet under load..... i want one. But i will wait until other companies start making the kit, coz then prices will go down ;)


haha I highly doubt there will be any other companies creating S/C kits for us. Even if that were to happen, they're not going to lower the prices because they have the added advantage of being an OEM company.

Basically, what TecoDaN says is correct...what you pay for is what you get!

For just under $10k, I got a RELIABLE, OEM-spec car (street-legal, insurance and Mitsu warranty acceptable), capable of running in the low 13s. NO DRAMA!

And the sound from the S/c and Genie dual-exhaust...PRICELESS!!!

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*cough* Manual conversion *cough*

:badgrin: :badgrin:

Tom

Warranty is still good?

yeah i believthe product is endorsed by mitsubishi, you can buy it as an option when buying the awd vrx i believe

I think if you get it on a new car then the factory warranty remains intact.. but in that vid the only warranty they mention is a 12 month/20,000km warranty offered by AAC themselves on the blower install.