eh?

i dont think it does. if anything it uses, well, not less. but as opposed to an unsteady foot, and fluctuating throttle openings.
Using cruise control uses more fuel than not using it. I've had this discussion on here before, not meaning to be rude, but believe it or not. Try for yourself.

Using cruise control uses more fuel than not using it. I've had this discussion on here before, not meaning to be rude, but believe it or not. Try for yourself.

yes it uses more fuel on the AWD too, and I"m surprised at how much more - almost 30% as it constantly accelerates then back off, and accelerates again to match the set speed - I think the cruise control could be tuned with better in-build intelligence. I don't use it.

Using cruise control uses more fuel than not using it. I've had this discussion on here before, not meaning to be rude, but believe it or not. Try for yourself.

nah, thats ok.

but why?

Only thing i can think of is that the drive from Sydney to canberra is flat, good quality roads and little traffic. I just put the cruise on and steered, very boring but the car just got in a groove and i dont think it changed gear once 2.5hrs.
Also checked it agianst the fuel amount used and it was right on the money, i did notice a big difference in driving north of sydney where i saw mid 8s, alot more hills, crappy roads and heaps of traffic.
I know it seems hard to believe but i double checked everthing.

I know this is a thread where you just state fuel economy, but is your car stock or any mods!!!!. I am still shocked at those figures as the best I got as stated was 9.4 on a recent trip from Mt Barker here in SA to Melbourne.

nah, thats ok.

but why?
As stated above...


yes it uses more fuel on the AWD too, and I"m surprised at how much more - almost 30% as it constantly accelerates then back off, and accelerates again to match the set speed

yeah but it shouldnt fluctuate that much. unless you are on a very uneven/hilly road.

yeah but it shouldnt fluctuate that much. unless you are on a very uneven/hilly road.

Thats the only time you will use less by not using cruise.....and even by not using cruise I couldnt be bother driving 1000k n saving 0.05l per 100 just from not using it... gimme cruise anyday :D

Whoops forgot why i came in here lol....

Just drove from Emerald too Brissy, total 1024k's averaged 8.7l at average speed of 101k/hr

I don't know how I pulled this but I'm nortorious for pulling some crazy ****!


670km out of a full tank of petrol!!!!!!!!!!!!

670km out of a full tank of petrol!!!!!!!!!!!!


I managed 690 yesterday

Stock (so far as i know, minus a 3" muffler)

EDIT: Highway drive, average of 120-130 km/h

I averaged 6.7L per 100km on my trip to Melbourne and back over the last 3 days. :(

It was serviced on Monday morning here in Bendigo right before I left.

Think I might put the stock air box back on and see how she goes.

I averaged 6.7L per 100km on my trip to Melbourne and back over the last 3 days. :(

It was serviced on Monday morning here in Bendigo right before I left.

Think I might put the stock air box back on and see how she goes.

You averaged 6.7L / 100k and ur disapointed??...Working on a 70 ltr tank, do you realise that you would have gotten 1040km (approx) out of a tank of juice??...Thats just unheard of in any car even the new deisel engines are struggling with that. If I were you I wouldnt even bother changin a single thing...either that or you have stuffed up with the figure of 6.7L

You averaged 6.7L / 100k and ur disapointed??...Working on a 70 ltr tank, do you realise that you would have gotten 1040km (approx) out of a tank of juice??...Thats just unheard of in any car even the new deisel engines are struggling with that. If I were you I wouldnt even bother changin a single thing...either that or you have stuffed up with the figure of 6.7L
:stoopid: The small 2 litre deisels only claim 1000kms per tank

:stoopid: The small 2 litre deisels only claim 1000kms per tank
but that's a 50 or 55 litre tank... if they put 70+ litre tanks in them they'd get around 1400km.

I must agree though, complaining about 6.7L/100km in a 3.5L v6 is :nuts:

cheers,
.wook

You averaged 6.7L / 100k and ur disapointed??...Working on a 70 ltr tank, do you realise that you would have gotten 1040km (approx) out of a tank of juice??...Thats just unheard of in any car even the new deisel engines are struggling with that. If I were you I wouldnt even bother changin a single thing...either that or you have stuffed up with the figure of 6.7L


Oops, lets try again.

16.7L per 100km.

Its a 2.4L 4 banger.

Oops, lets try again.

16.7L per 100km.

Its a 2.4L 4 banger.

wow :shock: that's atrocious!

what sort of pressure are you running in your tyres? heavy load?

I got 600 pretty much on the dot of 3/4 city/town driving and 1/4 highway.

I thought that was a good effort considering the way i drive lol

For the past 5 months since ive had my magna i have been consistently getting 650+ out of a tank, and thats minimum. Probably 70% hwy, 30% city.

Oops, lets try again.

16.7L per 100km.

Its a 2.4L 4 banger.

wow, it just went from awesome too umm yeah not too good lol... check out the way you drove her, lot of overtakin??... Hill climbs??... excess speed??... prob 3 elements that 4cyl dont like (without the help of fordced induction)... I have the 3.5L, I drove from Rocky to Gold Coast then back to Coomera BP on full tank (approx total 790k) I have too admit Im lucky with my company paying for fuel, so nothing but Ultimate and premium have been put into the tank, which helps with eco...

If your finding ur economy still crap, there are a few threads in here to help you out with fixin her

Generally above 600. On a long trip have achieved about 740 with AC on

wow, it just went from awesome too umm yeah not too good lol... check out the way you drove her, lot of overtakin??... Hill climbs??... excess speed??... prob 3 elements that 4cyl dont like (without the help of fordced induction)... I have the 3.5L, I drove from Rocky to Gold Coast then back to Coomera BP on full tank (approx total 790k) I have too admit Im lucky with my company paying for fuel, so nothing but Ultimate and premium have been put into the tank, which helps with eco...

If your finding ur economy still crap, there are a few threads in here to help you out with fixin her

Yeah thanks LOL.

I am a P plater (yes I have a heavy foot) but my car doesnt get thrashed. 34 on all tyres checked weekly.

Found and fixed the issue. Removed pod filter, replaced with stock standard air box. First 50km of this tank was with pod, the rest with standard air box. 475km and fuel light just clicked on. The last 425km were highway averaging 120km/h.

Still very bad my friend. I normally hit the 500 mark before any fuel light indication, with stock wheels I fly past 550 to 600 before the fuel light comes on, but because I use the Verada wheels its takes up 50km more of my fuel.

Its still better than it was. I'll post back after I run it from a full tank to fuel light solid (not flicking) and let you guys all know how much the economy improves.

i get only 350

600-650 kays semi rural

I get about 800Km if driving on highway in my TH manual 3.5. Approx 550-600 driving in medium traffic in the city. Most of the time I'm 'Driving Miss Dasiy' though :D

Mods are: K&N panel filter, lowered 50mm, Pacemaker headers, Supercat exhaust, Unichip - fitted & dynoed (have to run 98 octane only)

Had the injecters replaced im now getting 650km

since havin the 3.5 engine in ive gone from 320 a tank to 450 a tank :D

I have a 3l TE advance sedan that I manage to get about 575kms out of a tank of BP Ultimate. I haven't done any major mods, just a 2 1/2" redback exhaust from the cat back. It has 305000km on it the poor thing. I drive 90kms to work, about 50/50 traffic and open highway.

well i usually get bout 400 or so but the best i got is bout 600 out of half a tank

stock TF magna exec. i gun it a fair bit but on average i get around 350-400 a tank.

I posted somewhere that I gave E10 another go but Maggie drained the tank quick smart.:confused: So I decided to put some Mobil 8000 (98 Octane) in the other day and see how she went with that. The DTE at the time said I would get 200km out of what I put in. However, I managed about 260km, which is the equivalent of a one way trip to work for me. Looked promising, so I filled it to the brim with Mobil 8000 yesterday and will post back how many kays I get out of it once it runs out.

well i usually get bout 400 or so but the best i got is bout 600 out of half a tank
umm....wtf? 600km's out of half a tank?? do u have a Hyundai Getz engine in your Magna??



i only put in ULP. normally get 560kms then fill up with 57ish litres. thats about 200kms of highway driving, and a very very light foot in the suburbs. with a heavy foot i wouldnt see less than 13litres/100kms

i live in dubbo and drive 5 mintues to work and its 100Ks all the way, also a tank last me 2 and a half weeks LOVE IT. (NOTE: if i put the pedal down a bit she doesnt last that long)

Just did a casual trip from Canberra to Sydney and back. 650km (with some running around within Sydney CBD, stuck in traffic in CBD for ages, 110 cruise the whole way. Massive headwinds coming back, massive side-wind on way down.... Some short bursts of overtaking, quickly. :)

9.1 litres per 100km overall. TJ VRX s/a 5 speed. 110,000km on the clock.

:)

I got about 513km's per tank on petrol, i'm getting about 600+ on gas which is awesome for the hip pocket and i tank of gas lasts me about a week and half rather than 4-5 days on petrol.

I started with a full tank Wednesday last week. Light came on today so I filled again. Distance travelled was 446kms, 80% city driving, 100% grandad style.
The fuel was E10 blend and the cost was $68 for 55.3 litres

It worked out to be 12.4L/100km

Heard I could go further on premium but would that outweigh the 13c extra cost per litre? Would like to hear everyone's thoughts.

I have a 96 Magna TE V6 Exec, 189000kms. Just bought it last week. Getting full service inc timing belt on Monday so will be interesting to see if economy improves. It may not have been serviced properly in a while if log books are anything to go by.

Well I pretty much emptied the tank of 98 PULP last night and managed to get precisely one week of driving out of a tank. (Filled up last Thursday night 9/8/2007 and refilled last night but with ULP)

Dist. Travelled 724.4km

Litres of fuel: 64.82 (this was on the receipt)

Litres/100km (average): 9.2L/100 (however the trip computer read between 10.1 & 10.4 all week)

Using google map, I calculated that 22.9km of a one way journey is suburban/town (50-70kph) driving and 44km is freeway (90/110kph). Therefore, 34.2% is suburban with 65.7% freeway for those who care. In summary, the 98 PULP provided no benefit in fuel ecomony over 91 ULP which is what everybody probably already knows. I can get these figures on ULP (best of 789km). Interesting to test it anyway.:)

yes this is a good result but i was under the assumption that 98 was better for your car then 91??is this true

yes this is a good result but i was under the assumption that 98 was better for your car then 91??is this true
different thread on the topic... (http://aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43627)

cheers,
.wook

I only get around 400 kays out of a tank, sounds a bit low doesn't it? It's mainly quite heavy traffic though.

Dist. Travelled 724.4km

Litres of fuel: 64.82 (this was on the receipt)

Litres/100km (average): 9.2L/100 (however the trip computer read between 10.1 & 10.4 all week

To get average fuel consumption figure divade fuel used with kilometres travelled and multiply result with 100.

64.82/724.4=0.0894*100=8.94 or simpler 6482/724.4=8.94

haha, i get 350 a tank if i'm lucky..

i'm yet to get the car looked at

Dist. Travelled 724.4km

Litres of fuel: 64.82 (this was on the receipt)

Litres/100km (average): 9.2L/100 (however the trip computer read between 10.1 & 10.4 all week

To get average fuel consumption figure divade fuel used with kilometres travelled and multiply result with 100.

64.82/724.4=0.0894*100=8.94 or simpler 6482/724.4=8.94

It is too.:confused: I used this calculator but I must have punched in a wrong digit. :redface: http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/fuel.html Thanks, I will remember the formula for now on though.:)

in normal city traffic driving i get 550km from the tank, and 670+ for county driving. car is stock in mods wise except for suspension modifications

we have a still stock kl verada awd and we seem to get pretty poor range out of it - not thru fault of the car tho - last tank got us 350ish km and it took 45L to fill back up again.
thats driving it around town 90% of the time too - and i tend to get enthusiastic when driving it too (im only now starting to 'grandma' it to see what sort of range i can realistically get out of the car)

i *only* run BP Ultimate (98 RON) in her - i love using this fuel - all my cars drink it religiously!

i got thru a lot of fuel, because its still a new car to me - so every time i drive it is almost to test its takeoff / cornering speeds etc etc, when the new car 'smell' (figuratively speaking) wears off, i hope to be getting somewhere in the vacinity of 500+ around town using 98ron in town, and a lot more out on the highway.
i also have the a/c set at 22 all the time as well... so that doesnt help much!


is the fuel guage in a kl driven by the computer? ie - the computer will tell you there is LESS fuel in the tank than there actually is, by your driving style?
my partners VZ holden Calais had this sort of 'adaptive' fuel guage, and it used to drive me crazy because it was never an accurate representation of how much fuel we actually have left!

99 TH Magna Exec 4 Speed Auto.

Mods: Red P Plater :cry:

Fuel Average: 14-18L/100

KM Per Tank: 400-450 if that :(

Tanks per week: 1-1.5

99 TH Magna Exec 4 Speed Auto.

Mods: Red P Plater :cry:

Fuel Average: 14-18L/100

KM Per Tank: 400-450 if that :(

Tanks per week: 1-1.5

How the hell do you drive to get that bad a result. A v8 SS gets 14-15L/100 18L/100 is
like what the Nissan Patrol gets.

I used to get 13-14L/100 in my until recently where I don't have to drive my wife to the
city to work and back from the city everyday so instead I skip the city and I get 12.7L/100

99 TH Magna Exec 4 Speed Auto.

Mods: Red P Plater :cry:


maybe that is the cause of such a high fuel usuage?
not saying that your a lead foot or dangerous driver by ANY means..

buuut.... i know that when i was on my p plates... i used to use a hell of a lot of fuel when really i didnt need to - i always had to be the first one away from the lights (without speeding)

try taking the p plate off, and see if the consumption drops?
(i know when i used to drive without my p plates up for a while, i used less fuel.. strange hey!)

The added weight of those P plate's :D

I'm slowly calming down, just went to fill up and im getting 9-10 :) might try and keep it that way, but its so hard, one silly meaningless race adds alot to your fuel average. :bowrofl:

18.2-19.0L/100km. That's going by the trip computer though, and I haven't filled up for 2 weeks. I only ever do short trips really (~15 mins) in 6am Sydney traffic. I think I may need a new oxygen sensor though; I was getting 9-10L/100 when I bought her.

Regional city driving around 11 litres/100 km.
Highway 8-8.5 litres/100 km.

just filled up after driving to MM07 and around town (a few *spirited* runs), then back home and to work for a couple of days.

630kms out of 62.25 litres = 9.88L / 100km

probably the best economy I've had in a while. interestingly enough, the trip to Wagga was about 8.5L / 100km :shock:

I guess you can drive these things economically if you try!!!

cheers,
.wook

i;m getting about 350 to 400 ont of my tj vr-x is here anything i can do to make this go up:nuts:

just filled up after driving to MM07 and around town (a few *spirited* runs), then back home and to work for a couple of days.

630kms out of 62.25 litres = 9.88L / 100km

probably the best economy I've had in a while. interestingly enough, the trip to Wagga was about 8.5L / 100km :shock:

I guess you can drive these things economically if you try!!!

cheers,
.wook
Wow that's really good mate!
I got 650kms out of 52 litres on the way home, thought that was a good effort :).
Probably would have been better if i didn't test out that 2nd gear thing, but you got my results via sms :P.

Wow that's really good mate!
I got 650kms out of 52 litres on the way home, thought that was a good effort :).
Probably would have been better if i didn't test out that 2nd gear thing, but you got my results via sms :P.

8L / 100kms is not bad. yeah, second gear is pretty tall, isn't it? :badgrin:


i;m getting about 350 to 400 ont of my tj vr-x is here anything i can do to make this go up :nuts:

full service and have your O2 sensor checked. there was a guy on here who had his brakes serviced and they left the park brake partially on :nuts: and that would affect fuel consumption.

best thing to do is take it to a mechanic/Mitsu dealer and say you're getting crap fuel economy.

this of course will help little if the problem is a heavy right foot.

cheers,
.wook

EDIT: just noticed it's you with the dicky auto tranny from the other thread. I reckon when you get that sorted your fuel consumption will go down.

8L / 100kms is not bad. yeah, second gear is pretty tall, isn't it? :badgrin:



full service and have your O2 sensor checked. there was a guy on here who had his brakes serviced and they left the park brake partially on :nuts: and that would affect fuel consumption.

best thing to do is take it to a mechanic/Mitsu dealer and say you're getting crap fuel economy.

this of course will help little if the problem is a heavy right foot.

cheers,
.wook

EDIT: just noticed it's you with the dicky auto tranny from the other thread. I reckon when you get that sorted your fuel consumption will go down.
ok man i'll get the car looked at is mist teller going to rip me off

I did a trip today from Wollongong to Batemans Bay in the Verada sitting on the speed limit with air cond on all the way and did there and bac (429k's) on half a tank. Dont have a trip computer so I will have to wait till morning to fill up and work out the litres used. Not bad though I thought!!

Well I just put my first full tank of fuel through my new (to me) TJ 3.5 Manual.
60.70L for 629Km = 9.65L/100Km.
Fuel = E10 Ethanol blend.

Mainly driving around the 'burbs and to work and back.

Well on this last tank I got 450km out of 65L (14.4L / 100km). Yes, I am a P plater enjoying his 3 week old car, so once it wears off I'm sure it will get better.

You know I think the shear comfort of just driving sparingly will get me better fuel economy. Sitting on 100k with cruise on without the stereo on (or listening to soft classical), just in peace in the comfy seats was so nice for a change...

Well my new TH Solara Auto has been averageing about 550-600klms per tank 80% highway, which isnt as good as my TH Sports was, it got bout 700klms to a tank.

I think the slight auto troubles im having might be a factor in this too though.

Only mods so far, low Fulcrum springs, Alpine H/U, JBL 6.5"s, 2.5" sports system with 3" chrome dump tip and window tint.

Soon to be added - Barry's earthing and gasket kits, K&N filter, RPW street extractors, RPW twin piston calliper setup, full professional detail.

Future mods - Adding cams, chip, Focal splits, Focal 6x9s, Alpine Type R 12" sub amp, four channel amp, 17" rims/tyres.

i wish i knew my thing that tells me how many k's ive done is broken :(

i wish i knew my thing that tells me how many k's ive done is broken :(

You mean you have a defective ODO meter? My old TP had a defective ODO meter in that
the hundred thousand cog was moving at the same rate ast the ten thousand cog. Went
to VDO with a service receipt to verify how much it should be and they replaced it with a
new one but keyed the hundred thousand cog to what it should be.

My last tank I got 490km out of 59.8L (12.2L/100) which isn't too bad. Did a fair bit of highway driving, and was *reasonably* sensible at the lights :P

Fear this tank isn't going to go as far, discovered a new song that makes my foot heavy :cry:

You mean you have a defective ODO meter? My old TP had a defective ODO meter in that
the hundred thousand cog was moving at the same rate ast the ten thousand cog. Went
to VDO with a service receipt to verify how much it should be and they replaced it with a
new one but keyed the hundred thousand cog to what it should be.

yeah my whole speedo is dodge, for example it displays 100 wen im really doing like 80
how much does a new speedo cost

I love being a lead foot on gas :D. But, I've found that ii have to run petrol through it :( So i ain't really saving much.

yeah my whole speedo is dodge, for example it displays 100 wen im really doing like 80
how much does a new speedo cost

That could be a problem somewhere else rather then the speedo. The TE's had electrical/
mechanical speedo / odo setup. Take it to a dealer and get them to check it out. If they
charge too much for the parts, may be cheaper to get it from a wrecker.

yeah they said it would cost me about 250 - 500 depending on the problem

Only about 450k's max, and that's driving fairly granny like a couple thrusts or the pedal here and there to overtake and such but nothing much.
Car is stock as a rock.
Using Caltex Premium fuel.

edit: just read that cruise uses more fuel than not using it. should try not using it going down epping rd->hbr tunnel->m5.

wow, all these people posting <500kms out of a tank... ?? I get that regularly out of mine

I guess it really depends on *when* you call a tank full a tank full. maybe we should include how many litres you fill up with when you consider your tank empty??

for example, I usually fill up about 50 kms after the fuel light comes on and put between 60 and 65 litres in.

cheers
.wook

edit: just read that cruise uses more fuel than not using it. should try not using it going down epping rd->hbr tunnel->m5.

I think you'll find that cruise control is fairly economical in normal highway driving. in certain circumstances you can be more economical (usually if the road is hilly) not using it, but overall it's a lot more effort for not much more economy.

cheers,
.wook

17L per 100kms :( :(
thought it was just my zzorst but now ive been told i might have to fork out dosh for a new O2 sensor :(

I think you'll find that cruise control is fairly economical in normal highway driving. in certain circumstances you can be more economical (usually if the road is hilly) not using it, but overall it's a lot more effort for not much more economy.

cheers,
.wook

That my thinking. Cruising down the M4 (no pun intended) I'd say using cruise won't have much if any effect. Hardly a change in revs when setting the speed after getting to a comfortable speed. Even if it does use that tiny bit more, think about all the money you have saved on that fine when you accidently strayed above the limit, and that copper was in the bushes with a radar ;)

Last tank I got 14.88L/100, which included way to much fun. My previous tank which was about 350km highway and 100km city driving yealded 12.2L/100 which I was happy with. Alas I rarely do many hwy kms.

Bog standard 3.5 TH with 230,000k's. 8.3lt/100 Highway
10.1lt/100 to Work
12lt/100 City
Tyre pressures at 32psi

03 AWD TL Supercharged best to date 9.7lts/100 @100kms/hr Highway
13.1lt/100 to Work
15.9lt/100 City
18" with tyre pressures at 34psi
Under hard acceleration I have seen Instant Fuel on the TL display 103.1lt/100kms. That would really screw the "economy".

Under hard acceleration I have seen Instant Fuel on the TL display 103.1lt/100kms. That would really screw the "economy".

:shock: Highest I have seen is 60-something when doing 70-80 in first!

I only get like 400kms to my tank roughly, with little freeway driving. Mostly just like quick 10 minute trips or less. =/ it kinda sucks..

How it was calculated
This is a bit of interpolation based on 600K's of closely measured fuel consuption (fill tank, drive 200K's, fill tank, calculate L/100, drive 200K's, fill tank, calculate (etc))

What the results were
The average for the car over the 600 closely monitored k's was 12.15L/100
If we assume that the tanks rated size of 71L is an accurate holding capacity and we assume that it can actually be run dry then that's an average of 584K's per tank. Driving gently lowered it to exactly 12L/100K (591K's/tank) driving hard pushed it up to 12.4L/100 (572Ks/tank) I haven't yet got any country driving figures on it, but one would assume significantly better once she was out on the open road and able to stretch her legs a bit.

What the car is
1997 KF Verada Xi

What's modified about the car
17" Sava Intenzas (225/45/17's) @ 47 PSI on Speedy Spyder Gold 17x8 rims.
Lowered. Not sure exactly how much (don't know what stock is) but top edge of wheel arch to ground is about 670mm all round.
Extractors and 2.5" full system. (don't know details)
Rockford Fosgate P4004 in the boot running heavy pioneer 5 way 6x9's and MB Quart splits on the doors. (no sub / amp for sub present yet)

Mine's ****house. I get around 450 KM MAX per full tank until there is like 4 litres left in it (filled to the brim previously). A bit of hard accel here and there but normally all subruban 60kmh-1 and a bit of city driving. Thats something like 14.5-15 L/100KM. Time to change my oxy sensor or something? What else can I do to cut this economy figure down to 12L most people seem to have around here... ?

I'm going to be lucky to get 300-350 on this tank. Mainly city driving, with airport->city trips too. Always under 3K rpms, mainly around 2-2.5Krpms.
Man this is getting shocking!
Does city driving really take that much more out or could there be a bigger issue?
Car is stock.

:shock: Highest I have seen is 60-something when doing 70-80 in first!
hehe, I had it sitting at 31.5L/100km for about 120 km yesterday.

it's still over 17/100, but it's coming down every time I drive anywhere.

cheers,
.wook

I'm going to be lucky to get 300-350 on this tank. Mainly city driving, with airport->city trips too. Always under 3K rpms, mainly around 2-2.5Krpms.
Man this is getting shocking!
Does city driving really take that much more out or could there be a bigger issue?
Car is stock.

That doesn't sound right mate, I get 400km out of 60L easily, and that with a fair taste of spirited driving. The last few fills I have been getting more and more out as my foot has lightened. With that sort of driving you should be pushing 450-500 I'd reckon.

I have found a Celine Dion CD does wonders for the fuel economy.

hehe, I had it sitting at 31.5L/100km for about 120 km yesterday.

it's still over 17/100, but it's coming down every time I drive anywhere.

cheers,
.wook
What!!

I saw 86L/100 the other day. God there is some nice torque above 4k RPM, wish there was a bit more lower down though.

Edit: Sorry, getting a bit off topic there...

That doesn't sound right mate, I get 400km out of 60L easily, and that with a fair taste of spirited driving. The last few fills I have been getting more and more out as my foot has lightened. With that sort of driving you should be pushing 450-500 I'd reckon.

I have found a Celine Dion CD does wonders for the fuel economy.

Well that's what I thought too. Just a few weeks back I was going around 400-450k and that was definitely more spirited driving. The only two things that have changed since then is I changed from BP optimax to shell 91 and I had a service (oil change/filter, tran flush/flush etc)

lol, and no, Celine is not going anywhere near this car.

What!!

I saw 86L/100 the other day. God there is some nice torque above 4k RPM, wish there was a bit more lower down though.

Edit: Sorry, getting a bit off topic there...

it's amazing how much juice a supercharger will use at a track. lol

gave a few ricers a surprise. generated quite a bit of interest too.

over half a tank (39L I think) for 122km.

haha

I pretty much use Woolworth exclusively (regular unleaded), so don't know if it's the brand of petrol or not.


lol, and no, Celine is not going anywhere near this car.

Haha, well I tried it once after hearing it said on Top Gear. I mean it was already obvious, but I gave it a go and it is amazing the difference :P

I was proud of myself i was able to get 613km's out of one tank of gas. It was a long drive, no real hard acceleration or aggressive driving it was an 8 hour trip with 2 pit stops.

I've got 600km out of 63L. I'd say 60 city, 40 highway driving with the a/c on climate @ 25deg the whole time.

Way better than the old MIVEC.

I get around 13.5l/100KM to 14.5l/100KM doing 60% local (not hooning), 40% 100km/h cruising on the freeway type Driving in my TJ II Sports.
Its stock std and well maintained.
I know from other threads that this is very disputed due to series III models not having a Knock sensor however I have proved (to myself) that running BP 98RON Ultimate fuel in the car (I hate optimax as it killed my ZX-7 Kwaka and BP is closest to home) reduces my Fuel economy down to around 12.5l/100km from exactly the same driving styles, so I now use this religously and I believe worth the effort. FYI I did trythe 95 Ron and it just cost more....:rant:
I occasionally drive Melbourne to Adelaide and I always get down to 6.8l/100Km on Premium (again on BP 98RON Ultimate) to 7.5 l/100km if using Std unleaded for this style of trip which is awesome I usually get to Adelaide plus some driving about on a tank im guessing around 900km as I use the avg. l/100 gauge more then the odometer.
I just wish it was better day to day as I am seriously thinking of selling the car just based on economy alone, its a great car that goes well but its just too heavy on juice for what kind of car it is. I wanted a family car that went pretty well when pedalled hard rather than a juice drinking 'sports car'.:confused: :confused:
I regularly drive a commodore VZ SV8 5.7litre Gen III V8 at work on trips and around town and it gets 14l/100k, to 15l/100km around town which is no worse than my Magna but its way faster!!!.:redface: :shock:

yeh i know what you mean.
I'm getting 13.5l/100km -14.5l/100km mostly city driving. (91ron)

it would be fine if we had more torque at the lower rev range. at the moment looking at anything that can give me better response down low.

i wouldn't find the need to dump it occasionally to 4500rpm if the power is good at the 3000rpm range.

waiting to see how EZboys intake manifold goes.

so far barry's kits, straight through muffler, k&n panel filter (soon to be pod).
looking at getting a piggyback soon. just trying to justify the $1200 for 1L/100km or so fuel economy.

any other recommendations.
might go back to 98ron, or 95. if it doesnt give me better fuel economy at least its better for my car.

it is pretty disappointing, that a modern V8 uses similar amounts of petrol compared to us...

it is pretty disappointing, that a modern V8 uses similar amounts of petrol compared to us...
What is wrong with you guys then? I used to get 11L/100 in my Ralliart and if I pushed it hard on cruises or whatever it would creep up to 12L/100, AT WORST.

A modern V8 will use around 14-16L/100 around town, and upward of 20L/100 when pushed hard.

I'm getting 13 - 14.5 L/100kms and that's careful driving around the city.Does anyone know what's the claimed fuel economy for this car?

Stock 98 TF Solara
city driving mostly
have a K&N rampod thats the most of my mods
proberly get around 400-450 per full tank

I'm getting 13 - 14.5 L/100kms and that's careful driving around the city.Does anyone know what's the claimed fuel economy for this car?
12l/100km - urban
7.4l/100km - extra urban

source (http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/specs.php?id=89804)

cheers,
.wook

What is wrong with you guys then? I used to get 11L/100 in my Ralliart and if I pushed it hard on cruises or whatever it would creep up to 12L/100, AT WORST.

A modern V8 will use around 14-16L/100 around town, and upward of 20L/100 when pushed hard.

agreed. the only time I use more than 12l/100km is on the track.

even with the odd squirt (or three) around town, I average about 11.5l/100km. and that's with a blower!

anyone with a stock engine getting worse than 12l/100km either a) has a very heavy right foot, or b) has something wrong with their car.

cheers,
.wook

KF Xi.
Extractors and 2.5" exhaust + muffler.

Get almost perfect 12L/100K with standard driving around town on normal petrol (including a few moments of lead-footism).

Got an LPG conversion done recently and am getting (so far) about 16L/100 on LPG.

*EDIT: the 16L/100 is in quite hot weather with significant air-conditioner usage. I'm yet to get similar driving conditions to those under which I was getting the 12L/100 on petrol.

anyone with a stock engine getting worse than 12l/100km either a) has a very heavy right foot, or b) has something wrong with their car.

cheers,
.wook

What can I do to check what's wrong with the car if it's not giving me the claimed fuel economy?

Cheers and thanks for the source!

agreed. the only time I use more than 12l/100km is on the track.

even with the odd squirt (or three) around town, I average about 11.5l/100km. and that's with a blower!

anyone with a stock engine getting worse than 12l/100km either a) has a very heavy right foot, or b) has something wrong with their car.


or

c) MMAL's stuck an AWD sticker on the car

agreed. the only time I use more than 12l/100km is on the track.

even with the odd squirt (or three) around town, I average about 11.5l/100km. and that's with a blower!

anyone with a stock engine getting worse than 12l/100km either a) has a very heavy right foot, or b) has something wrong with their car.

or

c) MMAL's stuck an AWD sticker on the car

lol

fair enough... but seriously, anyone with a STOCK FWD getting worse than 12l/100km should take their car to a mechanic to have it checked.

off the top of my head, I would check the oxygen sensor, all filters (fuel/air/oil), injectors, transmission (especially if it's an auto), exhaust and check the ECU for any error codes.

before the blower I was getting ~10l/100km, sometimes even 9s around town.

cheers,
.wook

sh*t well i better do something about mine then 16L/100km since pod filter. was 12.5.

thinking rpw in perth.

...anyone with a STOCK FWD getting worse than 12l/100km should take their car to a mechanic to have it checked....

.wook


What would you expect the effect of extractors, 2.5" exhaust and muffler to be?
Better fuel economy?
Worse fuel economy?
No effect on fuel economy?

... What's the easiest way to figure out if my car has been rechipped?

What would you expect the effect of extractors, 2.5" exhaust and muffler to be?
Better fuel economy?
Worse fuel economy?
No effect on fuel economy?

... What's the easiest way to figure out if my car has been rechipped?

I would say you should be getting no worse fuel economy from those mods.

unfortunately, the other affect of exhaust mods is aural (i.e. the car sounds better when you rev it), so you're more likely to drive it a little harder, and hence use more fuel.

the easiest (and probably most effective) way to know if your car has a piggy back ECU is to find it. it'll be in the dash somewhere.

cheers,
.wook

I would say you should be getting no worse fuel economy from those mods.

unfortunately, the other affect of exhaust mods is aural (i.e. the car sounds better when you rev it), so you're more likely to drive it a little harder, and hence use more fuel.

the easiest (and probably most effective) way to know if your car has a piggy back ECU is to find it. it'll be in the dash somewhere.

cheers,
.wook

Thankyou once again for the good advice. :)
I would be inclined to agree with the aural principle were it not for the fact that I don't like the way my car currently sounds when it revs so I generally will try to keep the revs artificially low. I will generally try to avoid hitting 2500RPM wherever possible.
Previous thread: "3.5L sounding ricey with wildcat extractors and supercat muffler. Normal? (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53730)"

something else to look at would be the brakes. I know one of the guys here had his parking brake partially on, which leads to higher fuel consumption.

might be worth checking out.

for my 3L i get about 400 km for $55 :)

We did around 13l/100km on a stock TE/TF 3.0 auto, with lots of stop and go. An alternator part also got busted so the battery wasn't recharging until it got drained and the engine died down. The part has now been replaced and I will be posting again as I see some improvements later on.

We did from Grafton to Goulburn in one tank with 10 litres to spare
got 8.3litres per 100km from Yamba to Melbourne In a Standard 2002 Tj Wagon:D

on the way back up we got 10.5l per 100 with a loaded trailer....which is alright

97 3.0 V6 Auto, TF Wagon 160000kms.

9.1/100kms with 90% Freeway driving.

9.8/100kms 70% freeway driving.

10.8/100kms 99% freeway towing 2 trail bikes through mountainous country (fully loaded with camping gear)

All based on how much fuel went back in, then divided by the amount of kms on the trip meter multiplied by 100.

All these figures are with 91 fuel.

1996 te exec. 4 cyl 5 speed. Has CAI extractors and always full with pushers and ****. I drive at one speed, STUPID. Got to love the 2.4l get about 750kms round city.

first full tank after re-tune...

560km out of 61L (mostly in town, but not heavy traffic, some towing)

10.9L/100km

that's probably the best around town tank I've had in 12 months. :thumbsup: :D

cheers,
.wook

With my revised driving style I got 12.3L/100km last tank. about 450km using 55L fuel, less than 100km motorway.

my KL is now (over)due for its 60,000km service (by nearly 2000km...)

my fuel econ from the gold coast up the Pacific hughway to bris (when reset before driving) gets down to 10.2l/100km avg.

im hoping that when i get my service done - fuel econ will improve a bit....

Unfortunately, still 13.3l/100km based on three fill-ups of different Shell fuels driving the same routes. I hope a tune-up can help improve on it further.

Replacing all three filters regularly (oil/air/fuel) as well as maintaining correct tyre pressures at all times will help achieve optimum economy.

Running a thicker oil will raise consumption considerably as well.

I recently upgraded to a TL .
My fuel economy has now improved to 12.5L per 100km (approx 550 per tank).
Country drive sat on 8.5L per 100km without even trying.

Big improvement over my 3.0L TE.

Last fill I managed 405ks from 46 litres - so that makes it 11.36l per 100ks and I had been flooring it.

Going to drive more conservatively this week and see how it goes.

Have only used V-Power and V-Power racing (yeah i know, bit of a wank but it was cheap that week) since changing Fuel Filter.

Weird I took out the fuel rail kit and although lost a bit of power my fuel efficency became much better. Laterly can go 600kms easily on city drive. I went country side driving and I was at 630kms with 20l left in the tank!

I also find my car runs best at 100km/h for best fuel economy as 110 km/h tends to take more fuel. If I do not overtake too often the car really goes well.

I also find my car runs best at 100km/h for best fuel economy as 110 km/h tends to take more fuel. If I do not overtake too often the car really goes well.

I found exactly the same thing on my car, not that I ever go above 100kph on the freeway anyway.

So you guys dont go on 110kph highways?

So you guys dont go on 110kph highways?

Well I'm a green P plater, that's my excuse :P

I also find my car runs best at 100km/h for best fuel economy as 110 km/h tends to take more fuel.


Funny you say that, my first week of driving my 3.0 on the freeway to work doing 90km/h my average usage was 9.8/100

Then the second week sitting at 100km/h it was 9.1!:shock:

So you guys dont go on 110kph highways?

No we do, except this is what I notice on the country side roads. 10kmh more does not really save much more time and I seem to burn the fuel faster. Travelling at safety speed is always better, not to mentioned a magna with P-Plate got caught by police in front of me.
I like using my cruise control when on long drives at normally I set to less than the limit slightly but when no rush 100km/h seems to be the best speed for the car.

Yes, it may different on other magnas, but my 2.4L engine seems to do really well at 100km/h

Slightly improves to 13.12l/100 km after a top up with Caltex Unleaded 95 and transmission computer reset.

After placing a K&N stock filter replacement, consumption dropped to a whopping 10.9l/100km after topping up today! It's unbelievable, but I will do further tests to see if it's accurate already.

I'm pretty heavy on the right foot and it's all around town driving with one or two longer trips (50km or above) a fortnight. KE Verada with no engine mods gets 450 - 550 no issue. If I flattened it everywhere I went, I MIGHT get down to 350 or even 300 but it would be a case of speeding ticket first.

i dunno if someone has brought this up, i havent gone thru all the pages on here.
but it would be awesome if there was a seperate section for manual and auto, just to see if theres much diff.

My TF 3.0 Auto Solara was getting mid to low 10L/100km around town.
Mods done K&N panel and redback exhaust from cat back.

Now TL 3.5 Manual VRX is getting about high 10'sL/100km to low 11'sL.100km around town.
Mods done K&N panel

sorry bout this , but while we are talking about them , does anyone know if i can take the K&N panel out of my old 2nd gen and put it in my 3rd GEn?

just drove 1137Km from the gold coast up to mackay, and the computer was telling me i was averaging (at best) 9.8L / 100km, and at worst 10neatL / 100km.

this is too high!!
while on the drive (passenger seat i was in) got out the old helstra wireless, and googled the fuel econ for the car... some pages say i should be getting as low as 7.4L/100km for the average!

we have the aircon on the whole way - set to a casual 22 - 25 degrees, wound down the windows to have a smoke then put them back up again and turned the climate back on.

is this normal fuel econ for an AWD kl - seeing as some webbies are saying that the awd should be dropping to the low 7L's....
oh yeah - was sitting on cruise control the whole way - no speeding.
majority of the trip was 100km/hr with a few 110km/hr zones for good measure.

the car is now 4000km overdue for service too! opps!

well my car is currently unregged, i bought as is, hehe and i filled up 2 weeks ago when i bought mi car from auburn :D....$800...anyway, im not that technical when it comes to cars thats why im on here to get pointers from you guys :).......anyway what is the fuel consumption on my 1998 TF magna? :) 4spd auto 3.0litre

just drove 1137Km from the gold coast up to mackay, and the computer was telling me i was averaging (at best) 9.8L / 100km, and at worst 10neatL / 100km.

this is too high!!
!

i have been driving from perth to rockingham (~60km? each way) and my car says 11 - 11.4L/100km average).

i think that this has something to do with me not resetting the comp after booting it from the traffic lights around the city tho.

what do i care anyway , i only drive it a couple of times a fortnight.

i have noticed that it does go through a tank alot more quickly than my old KR.
i used to get about 4 trips down the freeway and back on a tank in that , but i have done 2 so far in the KJ as well as a bit of city driving and only have a quater of a tank left now...

just drove 1137Km from the gold coast up to mackay, and the computer was telling me i was averaging (at best) 9.8L / 100km, and at worst 10neatL / 100km.

this is too high!!
while on the drive (passenger seat i was in) got out the old helstra wireless, and googled the fuel econ for the car... some pages say i should be getting as low as 7.4L/100km for the average!

we have the aircon on the whole way - set to a casual 22 - 25 degrees, wound down the windows to have a smoke then put them back up again and turned the climate back on.

is this normal fuel econ for an AWD kl - seeing as some webbies are saying that the awd should be dropping to the low 7L's....
oh yeah - was sitting on cruise control the whole way - no speeding.
majority of the trip was 100km/hr with a few 110km/hr zones for good measure.

the car is now 4000km overdue for service too! opps!

we think the O2 sensor is on the way to being ****ed - its in the process of dieing.
so hopefully, once we put a new one on we should be getting the econ that we are ment to.
and we will also be putting a KnN pod / panel on the car too, in the hope of greater efficiency.
(pod = less, because it sounds fully sick bro when putting your foot down... il be doing that a lot...)

So you guys dont go on 110kph highways?

we do actually, but thats really country driving...


i have been driving from perth to rockingham (~60km? each way) and my car says 11 - 11.4L/100km average).

i think that this has something to do with me not resetting the comp after booting it from the traffic lights around the city tho.

what do i care anyway , i only drive it a couple of times a fortnight.

i have noticed that it does go through a tank alot more quickly than my old KR.
i used to get about 4 trips down the freeway and back on a tank in that , but i have done 2 so far in the KJ as well as a bit of city driving and only have a quater of a tank left now...

Hmm perth -> rocko should give slightly better performance than that, mine gets around 11.5L/100k's every tank, mainly suburban/some freeway driving, plus climate control... u using urs with those figures? Even driven hard, you wont go over 12.5L/100 ;)
but theres nothing broken with urs, figures arent too bad

also as to the fuel guage, i usually find i can drive around 150k's after the fuel light comes on, and guage says empty, so thats around 10-15L more to go... maybe the guage on the KR was more accurate? as in, the empty line was really when it was empty?

I wouldn't be fazed with that consumption Doddski, 7l/100 sounds like fantasy in awd. got similar results on a recent rip to Gold Coast. speed limit, a/c on, I was amazed to even get into the 9's, but that was as good as it would get. Got a K&N, but not convinced it has given me the same savings I have seen in other cars. My 2.5l 4 cyl Outback struggles to get under 10l/100k's, so I'll live with it.
If anyone is getting better results in an awd though I am keen to know.

I wouldn't be fazed with that consumption Doddski, 7l/100 sounds like fantasy in awd. got similar results on a recent rip to Gold Coast. speed limit, a/c on, I was amazed to even get into the 9's, but that was as good as it would get. Got a K&N, but not convinced it has given me the same savings I have seen in other cars. My 2.5l 4 cyl Outback struggles to get under 10l/100k's, so I'll live with it.
If anyone is getting better results in an awd though I am keen to know.

me too on that one!

i know that the figures they put on the stickers that are on the windows of the car are exaggerated, but i have normally been able to get what they say or better..

im hoping that if it is the O2 sensor thats on the way out, when replaced i will at least gain 1L / 100km avg..
not much i know but.

im not dissapointed in the econ of the car, i knew that it would have been a more thirsty car to drive because of the AWD and auto etc.
but thought i would have gotten better than i am - if only slightly.
will see how we go on the way home to the coast on boxing day.

Stock as rock, 600 k's around town and around 830 K's on the highway, Always use cruise control on the highway. When overtaking slower fords and holdens though I do tend to place the accelerator pedal in it's furthermost position (just for the fun of it)

Hey,
Fellow AWD owners, the best I have managed to get on a long trip (Sydney to Canberra and back) was 9.0 litres per 100km, that was with the boss, a far bit of luggage, and the air on all the way. Considering the old pulsar SSS would get around 8-8.5 on the same trip I'm very happy. Around town it drinks more then a remote area miner hitting the pub after a 2 week stint, around 14-15l per 100km. Was up around 17-18, but the oxygen sensor was not plugged in, (100 point inspection before we sell any car my a..e):confused:

i have a tj magna and well i get better k's where i do more hwy driving but i drive my car for work so on a good week around 350 to 450k

I am running normal unleaded (petrol is so freakin expencive these days)

sorry but i chuckle to myself everytime i hear that..

do the maths.. vs what you normally pay for example.. if regular is $1.27 per L (i filled up 20 mins ago and that was the price) 98 octane will usually floats around the 9c per L dearer mark.. (some little more, some little less depending on the servo and the alignment of Neptune)

so 40L @ 1.27L = $50.80
& 40L @ 1.36L = $54.40

now before you go OMG $3.60!!!! thats crazy!!!! what is that realistically??.. a can of coke and a mars bar? you don't have too much hesitation about grabing somthing like that every now and then...

i think we all know that there is very little performance benifits gained from using high octane petrol in the 3rd gen's.. but that doesn't mean that the benifits of the cleansers and additives in the fuel to help keep injectors clean and reduce carbon build up etc etc is a good enough reason for me to miss out on the occasional can of coke.. it doesn't exactly break the bank for me.. plus ever since i made the switch i've noticed i get at least an extra 60km to the tank.. so at my average fuel consumption (11.8L/100km) it's actually costing me $3.00 less to run my car on 98 octane (BP ultimate) vs 91 octane, when you look at the milage covered vs L used..

i have too much time on my hands..

someone read that and tell me if it makes sense lol

i wish petrol was $1.27/L....!

ok, lets compare... and be realistic
reg unleaded - around $1.40/L
98 RON - $1.49/L
Weekly petrol usage - 60L

Fill up each week:
reg - $84
98 RON - $89.40

thats $5.40 p/w extra, or $280.80 p/year

considering 3rd gens dont actually have a knock sensor, hence seeing no improvement with higher RON petrol, besides it cleaning the engine, tell me how spending $280.80 extra per year is meant to be so worthwhile...?

and this all isnt referring to the recent fuel spike, where petrol could be up to $1.49/L for unleaded, and $1.58 for 98 RON

some people are living on a budget... dont knock them for doing so, its why 4c fuel vouchers are so prevalent

agreed... I've never filled my car with less than 95. but now I *have* to put 98 in it.

at 11.8L/100km it would take you ~7L to travel 60km. I'm assuming that your 40L example is your average tank fill up, and that means you'd use about 33L of 98 to do what 40L of 91 does. that's a huge difference. that's almost 18%, and the price difference between 91 and 98 is less than 10%... makes sense to me.

but where are you getting fuel at less than $1.40/L??? every station here has it at $1.45 at least!

and without making this a substitute for the fuel economy thread, 11.8L/100km is bad, mmmkay?! I get less than that around town.

cheers,
.wook

cos i get on average 60km more to the tank thats costing me an extra $4.50 to fill.. 60km would use in my car about 5.08 L of petrol..

so 60L of regular gets 520km
and 60L of 98 get me usually over 580km (same mix of city/highway)

so in fact it's saving me money.. cos 5L of petrol (cos using normal 91 would need an extra 5L of it @ your 1.40) = $7 and it's only an extra $5.40 to fill it initially with 98 octane.. which would give you the extra 60km milage...

to thats a $1.60 saving per tank

it depends i guess, i'm getting similar fuel economy at the moment (11.4L/100k's), but thats around town, with climate control probably on all the time.

and its still questionable as to economy differences... 3rd gens have no knock sensor, so not everyone has noticed the same differences you 'appear' to have done

meh, theres other threads for this convo, and enuff discussion been done on it over the years!

i wish petrol was $1.27/L....!

ok, lets compare... and be realistic
reg unleaded - around $1.40/L
98 RON - $1.49/L
Weekly petrol usage - 60L

Fill up each week:
reg - $84
98 RON - $89.40

thats $5.40 p/w extra, or $280.80 p/year

considering 3rd gens dont actually have a knock sensor, hence seeing no improvement with higher RON petrol, besides it cleaning the engine, tell me how spending $280.80 extra per year is meant to be so worthwhile...?

and this all isnt referring to the recent fuel spike, where petrol could be up to $1.49/L for unleaded, and $1.58 for 98 RON

some people are living on a budget... dont knock them for doing so, its why 4c fuel vouchers are so prevalent

when you take the percentages into account, if the 98 stays 9-10c/L more expensive than 91, then it makes more sense to use it when the price is high!! :nuts:

and if you get better than ~8% increase in mileage (i.e. more than about 50kms out of a tank) then you are better off using 98.

.wook

lol.. fill up on tuesdays.. :)

i usually go through about 40L per week.. and yes 11.8L is pretty bad.. i have 20's and it's already in the heavier KJ verada.. i don't think it's the best combination for economy! :)

but thanks for the input!

yeh sorry my point for using the 98.. is that i had noticed the car idle smoother after some good injector cleaner, t/b clean.. and now that i constantly use 98 octane the car rarley vibrates on idle..

when you take the percentages into account, if the 98 stays 9-10c/L more expensive than 91, then it makes more sense to use it when the price is high!! :nuts:

yes percentage wise it does, but when its already a ~$80 blow to the wallet, why would you wanna pay anything more


and if you get better than ~8% increase in mileage (i.e. more than about 50kms out of a tank) then you are better off using 98.

and this is still in 2 stages at the moment, not everyone has found economy differences anywhere near that.


oh, and we're not including fuel vouchers here (thus a further saving of approx $2.40 p/w), as well as hunting for the cheapest price (sometimes caltex is far cheaper than bp), and this all blows the difference out above $10

*uses fuelwatch*

cheapest reg within decent distance - 136.6 (caltex woolies, so with fuel voucher = 132.6
cheapest 98 RON within decent distance - 146.6 (caltex woolies, so 142.6)
or if u want, cheapest BP 98 RON is 150.5

so minimum 10c/L difference, up to a minimum of 17.9c/L for BP branded fuel

so please, dont push 'economy' figures etc at me when theres huge price differences right now

i understand that.. but really you only need to be getting an extra 30km to a tank to be breaking even when using the 98 octane.. when u look at the $$$ to mileage..

i understand that for some ppl every $ counts.. like young families and mortages etc etc belive me i know about that! for me it's saving money cos of the less need to go back to the bowser.. and i know it's better for my engine so i do it anyway..

were a little off topic..

yes percentage wise it does, but when its already a ~$80 blow to the wallet, why would you wanna pay anything more

so you can drive a little further between fill ups?


and this is still in 2 stages at the moment, not everyone has found economy differences anywhere near that.

I'm going from matty.c's numbers. I don't have any other number to go by.


oh, and we're not including fuel vouchers here (thus a further saving of approx $2.40 p/w), as well as hunting for the cheapest price (sometimes caltex is far cheaper than bp), and this all blows the difference out above $10

*uses fuelwatch*

cheapest reg within decent distance - 136.6 (caltex woolies, so with fuel voucher = 132.6
cheapest 98 RON within decent distance - 146.6 (caltex woolies, so 142.6)
or if u want, cheapest BP 98 RON is 150.5

so minimum 10c/L difference, up to a minimum of 17.9c/L for BP branded fuel

so please, dont push 'economy' figures etc at me when theres huge price differences right now

you're not making much sense. pay 8% more to go 18% further (not my numbers). that makes perfect sense to me.

there's not HUGE price differences... your numbers say 10c\L (132.6 vs 142.6) from the same place, and that's only 7.5% more. you can't compare BP 98 to *discounted* Caltex 91 and say that's the price difference when there's discounted 98 at Caltex for 7.9c\L less :nuts:

.wook

i wish petrol was $1.27/L....!

ok, lets compare... and be realistic
reg unleaded - around $1.40/L
98 RON - $1.49/L
Weekly petrol usage - 60L

Fill up each week:
reg - $84
98 RON - $89.40

thats $5.40 p/w extra, or $280.80 p/year

considering 3rd gens dont actually have a knock sensor, hence seeing no improvement with higher RON petrol, besides it cleaning the engine, tell me how spending $280.80 extra per year is meant to be so worthwhile...?

and this all isnt referring to the recent fuel spike, where petrol could be up to $1.49/L for unleaded, and $1.58 for 98 RON

some people are living on a budget... dont knock them for doing so, its why 4c fuel vouchers are so prevalent

because but not using it your effectivly spending an extra $364.00 to travel the same km's as you would when using 98ron.. i know not everyone see a 60km gain the first time they fill up with 98.. but after a few tank's you definitly start to notice the economy getting better..

because but not using it your effectivly spending an extra $364.00 to travel the same km's as you would when using 98ron.. i know not everyone see a 60km gain the first time they fill up with 98.. but after a few tank's you definitly start to notice the economy getting better..

which is still arguable, and this very such argument has been done to death, which is why i walked away from replying before...

argue here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43627) (probably elsewhere too), this thread for here on is regarding the TJ's idle shaking...

mmk?

lol there are people who feel rich and can pump the Premium stuff. Likewise there are people here who feel there is no need to pump high grade stuff when we are driving an ordinary Magna not a WRX or something that needs high grade fuel.

Well for my 4 cyl it uses just as much and make no difference whether I pump the better grade or not. I felt I am paying more just to get the extra kms. I personally dont feel much difference.

Best of all, I started to drive a Lancer and it saves me $30.00 of fuel compared to the magna.

On the note, my boss drove a BMW 530 and he pumps 91RON as well, and that was what BMW recommended anyway.

about 480 with mine...

second full tank after the re-tune.

620km out of 67L (a bit dry, I know!!).

10.8l/100km.

cheers,
.wook

highway driving i get about 740-750km to a full tank.

around town usually around 550-600km.

2000 TH sports manual, rear muffler changed.

'04 TL magna, completely stock.
I'm getting around 550km from a tank, trip computer has settled at 12.9L/100km.

I drive like a grandma around 80% of the time... although, I did see an old lady zing past me one time going at least 100 in a 70 zone (also driving a TL magna).

10.8l/100km.

cheers,
.wook
This is what im getting out of my TL VR manual. Its a big change from the 13.5 i used to get over the same distance and driving from the 380... And the TL is faster too! :shhhh:

The new car sits on about 10 - 12 L / 100kms.
About 500 kms out of the tank but i only put 55 Litres in it. Thats if im driving calm around town even. long runs even better economy.

Im getting around 11.2l ~ 11.5l per 100kms in the ralliart.

Hoping to see it go down when i get my haltech installed and tuned...oh... and drive a 'lil more sedately... :p

Got as low as 9.2L/100km at the start on a country drive before finishing at about 9.8L there and back... averaging mainly 110km/h for about 90% of the trip the other 10% was varied speeds as well as my partner's dad was holding on to 4th gear at 80km/h,3rd at 60km/h!!! at some stages.
Not bad for a 3.5 manual vrx i thought. i think it used nearly the same as my TF 3.0 auto

2003 TJ VRX series 2 (stock) $60 of petrol or 50L put in = 350km at the very most. Now that is ****house

2003 TJ VRX series 2 (stock) $60 of petrol or 50L put in = 350km at the very most. Now that is ****house

Yes; it really is.

You should perhaps be getting your car looked over to see exactly why it's like that.
Perhaps your hand brake is permanently on?
Maybe your transmission isn't working right?
Maybe your air filter is a solid lump of gunk?
Maybe your spark plugs no longer have a decent spark gap?

I'm getting better mileage than that on LPG!

My car is currently doing 15.5+L/100km and thats with my driving it as slow as possible without air con. taking my car to the mechanic tomorrow to see what the heck is going on

it's slowly been getting higher and higher over the last few months and now it's just skyrocketed. my guess is the O2 sensor... my mates VZ SS is using less fuel and he's thrashing it

My record is a trip up to QLD at Xmas. I did the whole 900KM's on one tank :P Fair to say the tank was getting low, fuel light only started to blink on when i got to destination.

My average was about 7.1l/100km with a car full of camping gear, and could not have had a better run up the pacific hwy. These Magna's are superb cars. My dad has a new SVZ Commo wagon pulling a laden trailer, and was getting about 13.5l/100km's

Saying that, i drove back beginning of January when that horrendous rain hit the NSW north coast, i used up 1 and a half tanks to get back to sydney, and drove solid for 18 hours :nuts:

My record is a trip up to QLD at Xmas. I did the whole 900KM's on one tank :P Fair to say the tank was getting low, fuel light only started to blink on when i got to destination.

My average was about 7.1l/100km with a car full of camping gear, and could not have had a better run up the pacific hwy. These Magna's are superb cars. My dad has a new SVZ Commo wagon pulling a laden trailer, and was getting about 13.5l/100km's

Saying that, i drove back beginning of January when that horrendous rain hit the NSW north coast, i used up 1 and a half tanks to get back to sydney, and drove solid for 18 hours :nuts:

take it that your car is auto? it sits so so much lower in the rev range when cruising at 100km/h or 110km/h which is why you will see a bit of difference between the autos and manuals in long trips

yeah its an auto. sits at about 2200rpm at 100kmh

yeah its an auto. sits at about 2200rpm at 100kmh

manuals sit higher....wish i had a 6th gear... would save so much on fuel when cruising on freeways...

Geeze, I would have thought the manual would beat the auto for fuel economy regardless of the situation, there ya go, magna's could have benefited from a 6sp.

Geeze, I would have thought the manual would beat the auto for fuel economy regardless of the situation, there ya go, magna's could have benefited from a 6sp.

around town the manuals can match the autos, but on highways... no way...

2003 TJ VRX series 2 (stock) $60 of petrol or 50L put in = 350km at the very most. Now that is ****house

I'm getting the same thing for my 2003 TL VR-X. Had to fill up at 370km today though, it's the most I've got out of a tank since I bought it.

It's due for a service soon, so I'll get my mechanic to look over it and see why it's chewing through so much fuel.

I'm getting the same thing for my 2003 TL VR-X. Had to fill up at 370km today though, it's the most I've got out of a tank since I bought it.

It's due for a service soon, so I'll get my mechanic to look over it and see why it's chewing through so much fuel.

im about the same... im takin it to Mitsu tomorrow morning to change the O2 sensor, i'll let you guys know what the verdict is!

grr someone delete my post without saying why? didnt say anything bad on it


last tank i got 550k's out of it, with about 5L left, so couldve got around 600k's, and most of the tank i had aircon on, and around 150k's of the tank was on a cruise, which involved spirited driving and high speeds...

Ok i got my car back yesturday and i've driven around 100km so far on it.

Fuel Intake was: 14.5-15.5L/100km city driving
Fuel Intake now: 12.5-13L/100km city driving

Problem solved thanks to O2 Sensor. :D

Sweet, thanks Omar.

Will look at doing the same... How much did the mitsu dealer charge you?

Sweet, thanks Omar.

Will look at doing the same... How much did the mitsu dealer charge you?

I decided to get the o2 Sensor myself. I went to 'Bursons' and they charged me $150 for an NGK and i went to Repco and they charged $120 for a Bosch one, i bought the bosch.

Took it to mitsu and they said it would cost $45 to install and it did.

Oh and for everyone When i went to get my car, the mechanic said that the fuel filter(or pump?) was starting to corrode and he had ordered in a new one to replace it. He said it would be free to replace because my car was under warranty BUT on the invoice he handwrote "free of chage - Verada Recall" so im only assuming that my Verada had a recall on it due to a fault fuel filter(or pump?) . Everyone with a 3rd gen might wanna check theirs also.

Took it to mitsu and they said it would cost $45 and it did.

$45 for the O2 sensor from Mitsu! I've gotta get one, I reckon mines screwed. Do you have a part number for it?

$45 for the O2 sensor from Mitsu! I've gotta get one, I reckon mines screwed. Do you have a part number for it?

sorry man, i meant to say $45 to install, i payed $120 for it from repco

dont have the part number i threw the box away

sorry man, i meant to say $45 to install, i payed $120 for it from repco

dont have the part number i threw the box away

I was going to say! Thanks for that, I'm gonna get mine done soon, there is no way my car should be using as much fuel as it is (yes, I've been grannying it :P)

I was going to say! Thanks for that, I'm gonna get mine done soon, there is no way my car should be using as much fuel as it is (yes, I've been grannying it :P)

i've been getting overtaken by pedestrians and yet my car still used more fuel than my mates VZ SS 6.0L hahaha

yeah its an auto. sits at about 2200rpm at 100kmh

Thats interesting. Mine sits at 2200rpm doing 100kph and 2400rpm doing 110kph and its a
5sp auto with the same ratios as the 5sp manuals.

>450km to the tank so far... Fuel light is on now though, and I've given that tank a good flogging :D Wahoooooo~

yeah its an auto. sits at about 2200rpm at 100kmh


Thats interesting. Mine sits at 2200rpm doing 100kph and 2400rpm doing 110kph and its a
5sp auto with the same ratios as the 5sp manuals.

according to Cybermonkey's profile he drive a TS 3/0 auto though his pic is a TJ, i know with when i had my TF 3.0 auto, the revs sit at about 2200rpm at 100km/h

and the 5sp auto does not have the same ratios as the 5sp manual... not in my TL's manual anyway

around town about 500-550ks's . i went to kandos a couple of weekends a go and done 450k's and i had just over a half of tank left:D

00 TJ sports

according to Cybermonkey's profile he drive a TS 3/0 auto though his pic is a TJ, i know with when i had my TF 3.0 auto, the revs sit at about 2200rpm at 100km/h

and the 5sp auto does not have the same ratios as the 5sp manual... not in my TL's manual anyway

Ahh, my bad. The 5spd auto has different ratios to the 5sp manual. The 5spd auto's 4th
gear has the same ratio as the 4spd's 3rd gear (1.000 : 1) and the 5spd auto's 5th gear
has the same ratio as the 4spd's 4th gear (0.731 : 1).

last time i filled up i worked out i'd used 10.9L per 100km. mostly city driving and admit that my right foot was feeling quite heavy. driving down south i got 7.1L per 100km and was cruising at 110kmh (2400rpm in my 3.0L TE). can't complain! :)

ok dont laugh
but whats the O2 sensor
and whats it do?

ok dont laugh
but whats the O2 sensor
and whats it do?

The O2 sensor is the oxygen sensor (O2 = Oxygen)

For the rest; wikipedia for the win (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_sensor)!

Im getting 9.6/100km's now on average using E10. 70% Highway with a/c on.

personal best this week, 8.9L/100k's haven't even left the state!

when i fill up should be over 650km's, average speed is sitting on 60.1 km/h strangely enough! Pretty much 50/50 traffic and highway driving (drive to work is about 1/3rd 100kmh, 1/3rd 80, the last 3rd 60)

holden can stick their 11L/100km where it barely fits

hi,
new here so yea...i get about 400-450 which is normal i think? no mods what so ever except lowered springs TJ sports. I think it depends if you have your air-con on too? sometimes i get 11L/100 sometimes 13/100. driving abit of everything.thanks.

I'm getting rather shocking consumption on my 1997 TE. It has done 217000km's.

barely 270km on a full tank, what is happening there?

I'm getting rather shocking consumption on my 1997 TE. It has done 217000km's.

barely 270km on a full tank, what is happening there?

check the o2 sensor may be shot, around 80 bucks for a new universal one or 120ish for a direct fitment unit.

On my last tank my consumption jumped from a pretty solid 9.5/100 up to 10.8!

Ive upped my tyre pressures and switched from 'no name' E10 back to Caltex regular, don't know how much its fixed it yet, but judging by the gauge it seems to be much better giving this weeks driving conditions.

On my last tank my consumption jumped from a pretty solid 9.5/100 up to 10.8!

Ive upped my tyre pressures and switched from 'no name' E10 back to Caltex regular, don't know how much its fixed it yet, but judging by the gauge it seems to be much better giving this weeks driving conditions.


Worked a treat!

Back down to exactly 9.5! woohoo

I was getting low km's and I decided to have the o2 sensor replaced. This didn't fix the problem.

The next step is to get an EFI specialist to run a diagnostics test on the system and find out where it may be failing. Apparantly this can pinpoint exactly what's not working correctly. These tests can cost about $90 or so and usually take an hour.

On top of the o2 sensor, it could also be the coolant sensor. The EFI diagnostic results will be able to answer that though.

I'll keep everyone posted.

I was getting low km's and I decided to have the o2 sensor replaced. This didn't fix the problem.
What exactly do you call low k's?

370km maximum running premium unleaded.

That's for a 2003 TL VR-X.

As the title says.. What sort of economy are you getting out of your 3rd gen.

List your mods and the style of driving you do - even the year of the car...

For example: City/Country driving.. CAI + extractors etc etc..

This is to consolidate all the recent "OMG my cars a fuel hog" threads..
Are we allowed to have one for 1st gen's too?

Pity please! :D

370km maximum running premium unleaded.

That's for a 2003 TL VR-X.
Mate thats terrible, I usually get at least 420 from a tank, usually around the 450-460 mark out of 60 odd litres, and I'm not happy with that.....mind you running premium won't help, 3rd gens don't have a knock sensor as has been mentioned on these forums countless times, the car won't benefit performance or economy wise from PULP.


Are we allowed to have one for 1st gen's too?

Pity please! :D
If you want one open it, just use this or the 2nd gen one as a guide when you make the opening thread post.

If you want one open it, just use this or the 2nd gen one as a guide when you make the opening thread post.
Ok

oh thanks for the advice I'm not greatly car literate! aka I'm a woman! :shock:lol

Tuggeranong, ACT to Hexham, NSW (near Newcastle)

450km, 39 litres of ULP. = 8.3 litres per 100km.

happy.

2002 Stock TJ VR-X auto.

figure this, on matter how i drive, hammering it or babying it, with more highway driving or more city driving, im always within about 0.2L/100. its messed up. 10/100 constant. no real complaints because it means i can hammer it without worrying about fuel costs but still weird :)

3-4 years ago, I'd get 600KM's easy, but now it's down to around 400. In the last few years, it's been mainly round town driving. Now I'm back to 300KM's per week of 100KM/H driving, I've already noticed I'm getting more - 450KM's maybe. Doesn't help that the fuel guage is stuffed and I never remember to note how many litres I've just dropped in the tank.

Big service to be done in the next couple of months; new plugs, belts etc. I'm hoping I can get her back up towards 600KM's again.

Tank is 68 litre in a TF?

Regards, Tony

:D I drive my TL like I stole it & still get over 600km per tank. I do a combination of City & highway driving but mainly highway driving. My only mod is an EZ Boy throttle body. Cant complain.

i seem to be getting better econ outa my car now.

fill it up, and it gets me around 500 km or more depending.

right now, my trip computer is telling me im getting an avg of 10.2L/100km - which i am STOKED about, considering that its mostly 50/50 city / highway.
(when i drove the 1100 km to mackay, TC was telling me that i got 9.8l/100km for the trip - i reset all the meters before i left to get an accurate reading so to speak. that was the best reading i have EVER gotten! when i filled up again in Rocky, the DTE said i had 710km to empty! i didnt know it was able to go that high! haha)

although, this last week, i havnt had to have the aircon on... so that makes a big difference, and i have also been doing a bit of driving at night with cooler air.. which all helps i spose.

also discovered that cruise controll is GREAT for fuel savings!
the road out to my parents place is 80 most of the way, with a couple of roundabouts and i just set it and let it drive itself!
i do try to avoid using the cruise thru town tho.. it does present a slight safety hazzard when doing 50km/hr... lol

Filled up this morning. 30.87 lites, trip meter was on 279.3kms. Cost $42.26 ($1.369 per litre).

So that comes out to around 11L/100km's. Better than I thought. Once I do the big service (belts, plugs, filters etc) in a couple of months, I'll measure it again.

Regards, Tony

I am proud to say that I get a whopping 720 KM's out of a tank in my 3.0 TH Exec, about 1/4 of that would be city driving and the rest highway. The average economy is 9.0-9.4 L/KM. In addition to that, I am a red P-plater and get lots of random urges to burst which are reguarly acted on.

In addition to the above, the car's odometer is sitting at a massive 233,000 KM's.

Mods are... Well, None! I'm too poor at the moment :(

I am proud to say that I get a whopping 720 KM's out of a tank in my 3.0 TH Exec, about 1/4 of that would be city driving and the rest highway. The average economy is 9.0-9.4 L/KM. In addition to that, I am a red P-plater and get lots of random urges to burst which are reguarly acted on.

In addition to the above, the car's odometer is sitting at a massive 233,000 KM's.

Mods are... Well, None! I'm too poor at the moment :(

thats really good, if and when you do an exhaust upgrade to 2.5inches and a less restrictive muffler, you'll get better mileage :)


3Tank is 68 litre in a TF?


supposed to be 71 litres

TE 2.4 Automatic

Freeway - 750km on petrol and 450 on LPG
City - 580km on petrol and 300 on LPG

Whilst it ain't no powerhouse it has great economy!!! Too bad LPG isn't 55c per litre now like it was when I did the conversion :doubt:

Mine got a little better lately...

TH 3.0 V6 24V - 8.2L/100KM -- 780 KM per tank. Thats from my onboard trip meter as of tonight, I think the sub is distracting me and keeping my foot weight down :P

Well after running a full tank of premium fuel (shell) in my TF, I only managed 350km in a week with mostly city driving and maybe a 10 min run on the freeway each day.

I don't know but to me that's pretty piss weak. Anyone got any ideas what the hell I can do to fix that? My tyres are 38psi on the front and 35 on the back, my air filter is a little dirty but I'll replace that this week but other than that I got no idea!

Well after running a full tank of premium fuel (shell) in my TF, I only managed 350km in a week with mostly city driving and maybe a 10 min run on the freeway each day.

I don't know but to me that's pretty piss weak. Anyone got any ideas what the hell I can do to fix that? My tyres are 38psi on the front and 35 on the back, my air filter is a little dirty but I'll replace that this week but other than that I got no idea!
Maybe the o2 sensor. Mines pretty bad like that too atm, is yours overdue for any servicing?

I don't bother running it to empty any more, just top it up once a week. Normally putting anywhere from 1/2 to 3/4 of a tank back in, average works out to 16.5L/100km on that, 70/30 City/Highway split.

Not particularly happy with that, means I'd be lucky to get 360km off a tank if I did use the lot, I'd imagine its supposed to be much closer to 500km, I'd be happy with 500km off a tank with my driving, its embarassing to see the TR Astron get better economy than me :( I don't boot it anymore either apart from maybe 2 or 3 occasions per tank.

My new record!

8.8/100 km's!!!!

70/30 highway/suburban, i went real easy on it this week, so light on the pedal it wasnt funny, dropped from 9.5. And this was on 'budget' petrol to!


(3L-Auto) Im stocked!:bowrofl:

I used to fairly predictably get 12 - 13L / 100K regardless of whether I used my air-con / not, thrashed it / not, drove country k's / not (etc). Didn't seem to be much I could do to get it to change.

Since I got my car put onto gas, petrol k's are more up around 15L/100K, but the trade off is that I'm getting a fairly similar mileage on LPG.
Last 3 tanks:
65.4L - 398KM = 16.4L/100 (lots of air-con and a bit of thrashing)
66.2L - 426KM = 15.5L/100 (no air con and a bit of thrashing)
65.8L - 432KM = 15.2L/100 (no air con and general placid driving, only very rare thrash)

Given current ratio of LPG price to gas price of somewhere from:
65.9 : 146 (1:2.21)
to
67.9 : 162 (1:2.39)

That's about the same (price wise) as getting something in the vicinity of 6.8L/100K

Pretty pleased with that.
A little shat off at the power decrease that I took to both petrol and gas when it got installed, but for the 50% saving in fuel costs, it really is worth it. :)

stock 2000 TJ Sedan

mostly country/town driving occasionaly city.

low 10s/100km city/town
as low as 7.6/100km highway driving.

i been playing around with excell spreadsheets and the like for my fuel economy,
i get it to work out based on actual and T/c average /100km fuel usage a projected range i could get out of a tank.

These figures i came up with over a combined cycle of city and highway style driving per tank - cant give you ratios... they are 'combined figures' as to me they represent a more real value of how much fuel i use

AVERAGE range: 663.45km - based on a full 71L tank

Worst range: 613.07km (based on a fuel average of 11.2L/100km)

BEST projected range: 729.14km (with a fuel average of 9.74L/100km - calculated, T/C said 10.0L/100km)

when i fill up the tank, i always reset the meters, and each time i fill it up, the DTE is telling me 600km+ till empty estimated.

My funky lil excell spread sheet tells me also, that the worse fuel econ figure iv gotten, is 11.2L/100km (11.58L actual), and the best ever of 10.0L/100km (9.74L actual)

i dont use the a/c much either coz im mostly running around town getting in and out of the car a lot.

only mod in the last couple of weeks - the Sports Lukey Exhaust, and that seems to have increased my economy too even with me driving it to be able to hear it better...

2002 TJII LE. Completely stock. 80/20 City/suburban driving i generally get 450(ish)kms per tank.
Actually pleasantly surprised at how good the Magnas are fuel wise. My old (1L 3cyl Swift) got destroyed and i was dreading the fuel bill for a 3.5 V6.... but no issues. If only the price /L would drop back below $1 where it belongs :(

Around town 10.3 l/100k and on a recent trip to melbourne 8.3l/100k. I usually drive fairly steady no thrashing or fast take offs.

Mostly city driving, anywhere between 10-14L/100kms - depends on how bad traffic is, number of shortcuts, etc. 01 manual TJ Sports. Managed to get 8.4L/100kms on a run from Adelaide Airport> Salisbury> Glenelg once. Don't have any highway figures I've taken notice of.

Just to throw something in from a completely different perspective...

I average about 17 miles per gallon on mostly around-town driving using premium (91 octane) gas. I'm paying about $4 US/gallon right now.

Ok, on your mark, start the conversion... ;-)

Just to throw something in from a completely different perspective...

I average about 17 miles per gallon on mostly around-town driving using premium (91 octane) gas. I'm paying about $4 US/gallon right now.

Ok, on your mark, start the conversion... ;-)


for the aussies
Its about 14/100km
and just over $1 a litre. lucky!

i do about 98% driving around town, short trips etc.
consistently getting around 12.7 - 13.4 /100km
thrash it a fair bit, tried driving like a nanna. but for short trips it makes no difference.

Premium's 95 or 98 RON here - 91 is the lowest RON petrol, so you're not really running premium at all ;)

17mpg = 13.4L/100kms, not that bad, and that works out at $1.214/L... we're paying ~$1.50/L.

/edit - beaten

Just to throw something in from a completely different perspective...

I average about 17 miles per gallon on mostly around-town driving using premium (91 octane) gas. I'm paying about $4 US/gallon right now.

Ok, on your mark, start the conversion... ;-)


1 us gallon is about 3.8 litres, we are paying AU$1.35 a litre so it roughly equates to about AU$5.10 a gallon which is a little more than you guys.

17 miles per gallon converts into about 280miles's per tank, which is about 450kilometres. Pretty average range for a diamante/magna

Premium's 95 or 98 RON here - 91 is the lowest RON petrol, so you're not really running premium at all ;)

17mpg = 13.4L/100kms, not that bad, and that works out at $1.214/L... we're paying ~$1.50/L.

/edit - beaten


Wrong, US system for Octane is different to Aus. 91 Octane in is called PON (Pump Octane Number) or AKI (Anti Knock Index).

87PON in the US is equiv to 91RON in australia. 91PON is about 95RON and 93PON is around 98 i believe

Ah, yeah. Good point. Oh well, the US is wrong for using that and imperial anyway.

haha i fully agree lol

Since putting a K&N in I went from 11.4 to 9.9. So anyone holding off on these, hold off no more, go forth. Although my stock one looked like it had never been replaced. ever.

Although my stock one looked like it had never been replaced. ever.

I will vouch for that

Since putting a K&N in I went from 11.4 to 9.9. So anyone holding off on these, hold off no more, go forth. Although my stock one looked like it had never been replaced. ever.
Would that be the fuel rail kit or the air filter?
How much should a K&N air filter cost for the 2.6?

TJ LE 2002
60/40 country, suburban driving average 10.6 L/100k's
computer says 660k's when i fill up
k+n panel filter, pacey extractors

Since putting a K&N in I went from 11.4 to 9.9. So anyone holding off on these, hold off no more, go forth. Although my stock one looked like it had never been replaced. ever.

Foshizzle, before i put mine in my economy was like 12.1 but now its like 10.6

Would that be the fuel rail kit or the air filter?
How much should a K&N air filter cost for the 2.6?

The panel filter. They are $98 from most places for the one I have that fits 3rd gens (TE-TW). I would say one for yours would be much the same. I would say I've made the $98 back already, in one month.


I will vouch for that

haha I think the old one shocked you boys, shows how awesome I really am at cars.

The panel filter. They are $98 from most places for the one I have that fits 3rd gens (TE-TW). I would say one for yours would be much the same. I would say I've made the $98 back already, in one month.



haha I think the old one shocked you boys, shows how awesome I really am at cars.
Would a K&N Panel Filter be a WOFTAM if I am about to convert my 2.6 EFI to dual fuel?

Only reason you would have got better economy with K&N is because your old one would have been totally blocked. I bet there would be no noticeable difference in economy from a new standard and new K&N filter.

Having gas should not change anything, its as good for gas as petrol. I have a K&N panel filter myself, original filter seemed pretty clean, and definitely notice no differencce in economy, power or noise.

But, the K&N never has to be replaced, and I no that if anything the K&N flows better than stock, and probably the best thing is that apparently flow drops really quick when the standard filters get dirty, where as K&N filters still flow well.

Ollie

WOOT!!!!

80% freeway only driving - over 130km/s AVG 7.2/100km!!!

dead set when i was off the motor way i reckon accellerating with the cruise control would have been faster.. but still so i know that it's the trip i do most often.. which is to work.. ie - stop start stop start hills hills hills.. that kills my economy in the ****..

and i had the a/c on most of yesterday also, with a boot full of eskies and gazibo/deck chairs, and 3/4 tank of fuel.. so i wasn't travelling light..

really impressed with that.. there may be light at the end of the tunnel for the old girl afterall..

WOOT!!!!

80% freeway only driving - over 130km/s AVG 7.2/100km!!!

dead set when i was off the motor way i reckon accellerating with the cruise control would have been faster.. but still so i know that it's the trip i do most often.. which is to work.. ie - stop start stop start hills hills hills.. that kills my economy in the ****..

and i had the a/c on most of yesterday also, with a boot full of eskies and gazibo/deck chairs, and 3/4 tank of fuel.. so i wasn't travelling light..

really impressed with that.. there may be light at the end of the tunnel for the old girl afterall..

130km per sec :shock: :shock:

haha.. that was just ment to be 130kms... my bad.. i geuss i couldn't hold back my excitement..

hehe thats cool. When i last drove to Brisbane from Sydney, my average was just 6.9l/100km

i am averaging between 630 and 660km from a tank in my 98 3L V6 Sports (tip-tronic)

its not too bad i suppose... considering what some of you other guys are getting.

thats using crappy E10 fuel too... i get a bit more from 91 RON

Only reason you would have got better economy with K&N is because your old one would have been totally blocked. I bet there would be no noticeable difference in economy from a new standard and new K&N filter.

Ollie


i had a new panel filter for like 2 weeks, then i got my k+n filter, straight away i was getting better economy...:surprised

dreamin, due to other factors buddy

Don't know whether anyone has mentioned before or not but the poll needs to take into
account tank size differences between the sedans and wagons and the AWDs. I am now
getting 500km/tank and the AWD has a smaller tank.

Last tank I got 530km out of 63L, mostly city driving and hardly being careful on the throttle (the noise is too good for that). Works out at 11.8L/100km.

On the per tank issue, would be better just to say how far you went on how much fuel.

getting approx 600k's per 60l of go fast juice, was using 95 and just had the piggyback tuned for it but might get it put to 98 :badgrin: not bad considering it is supercharged.

The stock AWD TJ has been averaging around 12.5.

Have had it under 12 a few times, but that occasional heavy right boot has a tendency to make it creep back up.

That's all Adelaide driving no open roading yet.

450-500km driving around the suburbs and a little bit of city driving

Stock Engined KF 3.5L Verada
400-450km driving normal (reasonably hard)
480-520km driving like a grandpa
stop start city driving

got 760km out of a tank once when i drove to geelong and back, loved it.

550 - 600 litres - definate driving in reverse to establish this economy. but on straight highway running up the coast in 2002 series II executive manual - I got 7.1 / 100km whole tank.

Great surprise on Tuesday when I stopped to fill up after 450km's of mainly open road driving. Thought "OK, 450k's, around 49 litres". Pump clicked off at 39 and I managed to squeeze it to 40.06 litres.

Back in Melbourne now after mainly highway/freeway driving and she's on 490km's on the tripmeter and the gauge is saying just over quarter of a tank full. I'm hopeful of 45 litres to fill her tomorrow (although I'll try and wait till Monday night and see the price go down a little more).

Definitely better since the KN filter went in, the muffler was replaced and the heads were rebuilt. I'm averaging 10.768 l/100km over the last 3 months.

Regards, Tony

the best i can get is 10l/100km that was a 110km/hr drive with a lot of down to 80km zones in between.

i average about 14l/100km though. damn stop start hill driving. i thought rolling down hills would factor out the driving up hills but no :(