Mine is also coming down as I mod, with the K&N and the new muffler I am getting 9.1 for 70% highway 30% city

wow how do u all get such good economy? i just push 400km's on a tank. the engine is stock but still. 400 seems pretty sh**house? i drive mainly in 60-80 zone rolling as much as i can and stopping as less as possible, i gave it a good 100km run on a full tank doing mostly around the 110/120km mark for the hour or so i was driving thinking that id get better mileage by the end of the fornight but it hasnt made a difference at all? (note: i did at one point push the car to 180km) will a muffler and panel filter increase my mileage much more? or is it my P plate driving that is hindering my longer mileage? JM

wow how do u all get such good economy? i just push 400km's on a tank. the engine is stock but still. 400 seems pretty sh**house? i drive mainly in 60-80 zone rolling as much as i can and stopping as less as possible, i gave it a good 100km run on a full tank doing mostly around the 110/120km mark for the hour or so i was driving thinking that id get better mileage by the end of the fornight but it hasnt made a difference at all? (note: i did at one point push the car to 180km) will a muffler and panel filter increase my mileage much more? or is it my P plate driving that is hindering my longer mileage? JM

I can't imagine why you would be getting bad economy when driving like that?

maybe if you didn't exceed the speed limit by more than 60km/h you'd be better off?

:nuts:

Yeah lift the right foot a bit, you'd be surprised what sort of economy you'll get when you don't near double the speed limit. Its a great economy mod that.

will a muffler and panel filter increase my mileage much more? or is it my P plate driving that is hindering my longer mileage? JM

I was getting 11.4 before I put the panel filter and the muffler in. My stock filter was filthy though.

Also I agree that slowing down will assist in the quest for economy. Nanna it up!

Kl Gtvi

No mechanical mods

Standard 17" wheels.

12.4 l/100 around town (regional city no real traffic jams)

Anywhere from 8.0 l/100 on a intercity run (flat, straight, freeway conditions) to 9.3 l/100 in twisty hilly terrain

These figures are without consciously driving for improved fuel economy but not thrashing the car either!

Driving to stretch economy around town I have a couple of times achieved 11.5 l/100. over a full tank. Takes some concentration tho.

Cheers

I got about 12.4L/100km last half-tank with almost 100% city driving, not going light on the throttle, and a downhill thrash.

wow how do u all get such good economy? i just push 400km's on a tank. the engine is stock but still. 400 seems pretty sh**house? i drive mainly in 60-80 zone rolling as much as i can and stopping as less as possible, i gave it a good 100km run on a full tank doing mostly around the 110/120km mark for the hour or so i was driving thinking that id get better mileage by the end of the fornight but it hasnt made a difference at all? (note: i did at one point push the car to 180km) will a muffler and panel filter increase my mileage much more? or is it my P plate driving that is hindering my longer mileage? JM
You bought the wrong car. Maybe a VN is more your thing? :D

BTW... I get roughly 550 on 60 litres of LPG. That includes "spirited" driving.

driving at 80 to 90 km/h saves heaps of fuel compared to driving at 110km/h..... good reason for mum to let me to drive on my Ls:badgrin:I think i got 7.1 L/100km on a drive down to coffs and back once

driving at 80 to 90 km/h saves heaps of fuel compared to driving at 110km/h..... good reason for mum to let me to drive on my Ls:badgrin:I think i got 7.1 L/100km on a drive down to coffs and back once
I'd rather drive at the speed limit and return 7.6-8.5/100km lol The less time you spend driving balances out the use of fuel.

I'd rather drive at the speed limit and return 7.6-8.5/100km lol The less time you spend driving balances out the use of fuel.

not to mention all the fags giving you the evil eye and cutting you off because they had to come off the cruise control :rant:

not to mention all the fags giving you the evil eye and cutting you off because they had to come off the cruise control :rant:
ain't my fault theres a stupid law saying learners can't go over 80km/h .Stupid laws are made to be broken but if there is some smart ass in some VL or somethinggggggggggggg its back down to 80kmh hehe. ive been overtaken over double lines while doing 95 in a 100 zone so many times its not funneh

TW AWD was getting 12.3, since muffler and panel filter its 11.5.

I can't imagine why you would be getting bad economy when driving like that?

maybe if you didn't exceed the speed limit by more than 60km/h you'd be better off?

:nuts:

wow that made me sound like im a commodore driver on stockies didnt it? most of my driving is done from my house to my work (which is like 7min drive) so i thought i better give the car a run (cause its always good for the car) so i just took my car from eltham to king lake, going through kangeroo ground at about 9pm at night, so was quiet and safe. but yer i ran through most of that area at about 100. in the yarra glen region there is a nice straight that runs for a couple k's so on the way home i wanted to see how fast i could get her and if it took very long to get up to a decent speed (mind u at 180km u really dont have much control of ur car, ive found LOL). but yer even driving like a grandpa i get 400. might get the air filter checked?

i wanted to see how fast i could get her and if it took very long to get up to a decent speed (mind u at 180km u really dont have much control of ur car, ive found LOL).


wow that made me sound like im a commodore driver on stockies didnt it?

Yep, it did.

Nobody gets worse fuel economy than I do. Here is an example for Brisbane members.

The fuel gauge looks like it goes from 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock and say I'm sitting at just about the 4 line and drive from Mt Gravatt onto the M1 at Klumpp Rd and through the inner city bypass to Windsor, and then return, I'm on the empty line after that run which is only 15km each way and 95% of it is highway driving.

Just as a side note, I find out of all the premium fuels I put in my car, my tank always seems to last way longer using Mobile Premium Unleaded

Nobody gets worse fuel economy than I do. Here is an example for Brisbane members.

The fuel gauge looks like it goes from 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock and say I'm sitting at just about the 4 line and drive from Mt Gravatt onto the M1 at Klumpp Rd and through the inner city bypass to Windsor, and then return, I'm on the empty line after that run which is only 15km each way and 95% of it is highway driving.

Just as a side note, I find out of all the premium fuels I put in my car, my tank always seems to last way longer using Mobile Premium Unleaded

thats not bad econ - thats just the standard mitsu 3rd gen feature of not the best fuel tank senders!
should be able to get around 500km at a min outa your car - reset the trip meter each time you fill up, and drive off that, when approaching 500, fill up. then take notes of how much fuel you put in your car to get an average (i assume your car not to have a trip computer to tell you such things as avg consumption?)



back to me :P

my funky spreadsheet tells me that i can get 750km out of a tank on the open highway - as long as im averaging less than 9.5L/100km (which on the highway seems to be the norm to be below that now YAY!)
my overal for the last 4months avg fuel useage, is 10.89L/100km - inclusive of highway and city driving.
yeah... i need a life... i find excell spreadsheets to be rather exciting sometimes... i even made a funky graph to trace the movements in pictorial form as well as numerical...

thats not bad econ - thats just the standard mitsu 3rd gen feature of not the best fuel tank senders!
should be able to get around 500km at a min outa your car - reset the trip meter each time you fill up, and drive off that, when approaching 500, fill up. then take notes of how much fuel you put in your car to get an average (i assume your car not to have a trip computer to tell you such things as avg consumption?)



back to me :P

my funky spreadsheet tells me that i can get 750km out of a tank on the open highway - as long as im averaging less than 9.5L/100km (which on the highway seems to be the norm to be below that now YAY!)
my overal for the last 4months avg fuel useage, is 10.89L/100km - inclusive of highway and city driving.
yeah... i need a life... i find excell spreadsheets to be rather exciting sometimes... i even made a funky graph to trace the movements in pictorial form as well as numerical...

Go wash your Magna Doddski.

can you put premium petrol (98) in your car straight away, or does ur car need to configured to use it? besides the obvious of it being better for ur engine; wats it like for economy?

Jury is out on that, some say they get better, others say the same as 91RON. 3rd gens don't have knock sensors to take advantage of it.

the 98octane fuel idea, is a BIG can of worms (and you just opened it!)

3rd gen magnas (as Mitchel said) to not have a knock sensor in them to take full advantage of a better fuel.

however - i run at least 95 in my car when im hitting the road on a roadtrip, and the trip computer is always saying that iv used more fuel than i really have - thats a sign that the engine is using less fuel overall on it. (i can make that assumption as i concluded my trip computer to be in the 98% accuracy range on 91ron).

around town, not worth it, open highway - its more worth it, but even then your not getting the full advantage.

the 98octane fuel idea, is a BIG can of worms (and you just opened it!)

3rd gen magnas (as Mitchel said) to not have a knock sensor in them to take full advantage of a better fuel.

however - i run at least 95 in my car when im hitting the road on a roadtrip, and the trip computer is always saying that iv used more fuel than i really have - thats a sign that the engine is using less fuel overall on it. (i can make that assumption as i concluded my trip computer to be in the 98% accuracy range on 91ron).

around town, not worth it, open highway - its more worth it, but even then your not getting the full advantage.
Well there you have it folks, some well rounded and informed hypothesis' here.

Trip computer calculates amount of fuel sprayed in by the injectors, so unless you've changed your injectors, your claim there is bull****. Liquid occupies the same volume consistantly until it changes state (to gas or solid), before you rebut with 95ron petrol possibly being denser than its 91ron counterpart, I'd have to say that it would still occupy the same volume and so on.

This whole debate is crap and is purely subjective as each driving experience is different and has an incredibly large amount of uncontrollable variables. Scientifically speaking without the ability to retard or advance fuel by means of the ECU responding to a knock sensor it will not give better fuel economy. 95+ ron fuel combusts more efficiently but unless the mechanics are there to utilise the increased efficiency of the combustion it won't be any more beneficial in an engine tuned to run 91ron day in day out.

hypothetically. my tank is empty and i head down to united and put 98 in it i can just put that in the car tomorrow? engine wont freak out on me?

hypothetically. my tank is empty and i head down to united and put 98 in it i can just put that in the car tomorrow? engine wont freak out on me?

No it will stall. You need to gradually work your way up.

Start at 93, put a bottle of octane booster in.
95 octane
95 octane + booster.
98.

If you wish to go to 100 octane, I highly recommend you keep upping the amount of octane booster until finally you're not even running 98, but just booster.

No it will stall. You need to gradually work your way up.

Start at 93, put a bottle of octane booster in.
95 octane
95 octane + booster.
98.

If you wish to go to 100 octane, I highly recommend you keep upping the amount of octane booster until finally you're not even running 98, but just booster.

umm......

yeah... something like that :nuts: :nuts:

The can of worms is never closed is it :bowrofl:

Lucifer hit it on the head!

An ECU calculates injector pulse time via a table of values. The two axis are RPM and Load. Load is either given from a MAF or MAP sensor.

At 2000rpm, at a certain load, the ECU will CONSISTANTLY inject X amount of fuel. The X number is usually given in milliseconds, and is just extracted from the fuel map.

Furthermore, fuel of different RON rating still has the same total energy when burnt. That means you dont get more power from higher RON fuel without tuning for it.

So, in open loop mode, the car WILL use the exact same amount of fuel, and have the exact same amount of power.



Closed loop is a similar story. Higher RON fuel doesn't burn more oxygen than lower RON fuel, so therefor does not effect closed loop fuel control differently. That means the volume of fuel is entring the engine to reach the stoich value the ECU is looking for.



There is always going to be someone who claims to get an extra 50km per tank out of ultimate, but the truth is that although it might seem right, the experiment/results are offset by different driving styles, head winds, more hills that week etc, etc.

My 2c.

:confused:

No it will stall. You need to gradually work your way up.

Start at 93, put a bottle of octane booster in.
95 octane
95 octane + booster.
98.

If you wish to go to 100 octane, I highly recommend you keep upping the amount of octane booster until finally you're not even running 98, but just booster.

:nuts:

Also just to claify off the shelf octane booster is usually a bottle of crap, better off saving your money for proven mods.

No it will stall. You need to gradually work your way up.lol. lolwaffles to the infinity

No can of worms is never close till people figure out is not worth the money.

I can never understand why a Manga needs 98. If your car is not turbo charged you should not do it. Maybe if you just want to try it, be my guest.

Once 98 hits $2.00 a l, I want to see how many still carry on

The VRX eats alot more than I expected, the old TF 3lt Manual got 600km everytime easy, even with a little bit of 'spirited driving'. But the VRX, even with pensioner speeds only gets around 520km.

The instant fuel read out gives some scary figures too. Sometimes when doin a normal easy take off the read out can climb to 65lt/100kms. Normal freeway it usually sits around 5.6-8.0

The VRX eats alot more than I expected, the old TF 3lt Manual got 600km everytime easy, even with a little bit of 'spirited driving'. But the VRX, even with pensioner speeds only gets around 520km.

The instant fuel read out gives some scary figures too. Sometimes when doin a normal easy take off the read out can climb to 65lt/100kms. Normal freeway it usually sits around 5.6-8.0

watch the screen when you are slowing to a stop at the lights (obv watch the traffic in front of you too!)
in that instant before it goes "---" - my car will read around 146L/100km :eh:

and on takeoffs mine jumps up around the +80L/100 mark.. put the foot down hard for a spirited launch and it goes rather high.......

good reason for (esp in autos) putting the car in neautral when at lights or stopped. its kinder to the fuel guage (and the environment too!)

remember - the 3L TF and the 3.5L VRX - the vrx has the slightly bigger motor :P

i never understood the use of the instant fuel readout. averages are better for calculating trends and the like IMO.

watch the screen when you are slowing to a stop at the lights (obv watch the traffic in front of you too!)
in that instant before it goes "---" - my car will read around 146L/100km :eh:

and on takeoffs mine jumps up around the +80L/100 mark.. put the foot down hard for a spirited launch and it goes rather high.......

good reason for (esp in autos) putting the car in neautral when at lights or stopped. its kinder to the fuel guage (and the environment too!)

remember - the 3L TF and the 3.5L VRX - the vrx has the slightly bigger motor :P

i never understood the use of the instant fuel readout. averages are better for calculating trends and the like IMO.

yea around town its a tad useless cause it jumps all over the place and Im not too sure how accurate it is especially when its showing huge figures for the most calm and collected driving. However on the freeway it pretty good as its pretty consistent and seems more like realistic figures.

Yea have been noticing the effects of the bigger motor. The 3lt was fun and controllable. The 3.5lt though feels like a turbo kicking in when it hits 3500rpm. Feels like nuthing-nuthin-nuthin then BOOM!. Get pushed into the seat, CDs and anything not held down gets launched into the back seat, crazy lol.

Yea have been noticing the effects of the bigger motor. The 3lt was fun and controllable. The 3.5lt though feels like a turbo kicking in when it hits 3500rpm. Feels like nuthing-nuthin-nuthin then BOOM!. Get pushed into the seat, CDs and anything not held down gets launched into the back seat, crazy lol.
I wouldn't say a turbo lol It is pretty punchy from 3.5k though. Its got more guts all over the rev range, Torque rocks :P

The VRX eats alot more than I expected, the old TF 3lt Manual got 600km everytime easy, even with a little bit of 'spirited driving'. But the VRX, even with pensioner speeds only gets around 520km.

The instant fuel read out gives some scary figures too. Sometimes when doin a normal easy take off the read out can climb to 65lt/100kms. Normal freeway it usually sits around 5.6-8.0

had you asked, i could have told you that.... i get easily 570km min out of my TL, and 600+ out of the TF.


Yea have been noticing the effects of the bigger motor. The 3lt was fun and controllable. The 3.5lt though feels like a turbo kicking in when it hits 3500rpm. Feels like nuthing-nuthin-nuthin then BOOM!. Get pushed into the seat, CDs and anything not held down gets launched into the back seat, crazy lol

i don't know about a "like a turbo kicking in", the 3.0 felt more like something kicks in at higher rev, but the 3.5 is more linear.

had you asked, i could have told you that.... i get easily 570km min out of my TL, and 600+ out of the TF.



i don't know about a "like a turbo kicking in", the 3.0 felt more like something kicks in at higher rev, but the 3.5 is more linear.

LoL ok so I overstated but it got my message across, alot more power kicks in around 3500rpm though and its very noticable. Thats all I was trying to say.

had you asked, i could have told you that.... i get easily 570km min out of my TL, and 600+ out of the TF.

Dunno how u can get such range out of ur tank, yesterday was a record 4 me i did 437 kms out of my tank since i bought it, i was surprised :)

Dunno how u can get such range out of ur tank, yesterday was a record 4 me i did 437 kms out of my tank since i bought it, i was surprised :)
I don't try to get to 200km/h... That uses alot of fuel

I don't try to get to 200km/h... That uses alot of fuel
Maybe not as often.. lol Whats sad is i rarely break 100km/h and HRD2GT is still getting better economy than me lol

I don't try to get to 200km/h... That uses alot of fuel


I'll take that as an advice :bowrofl:

Mine almost feels like it's got variable cams or a laggy turbo sometimes :confused: hits 3000rpm, suddenly picks up more power and exhaust note changes instantly. More noticeable some days than others. *shrug*

Mine almost feels like it's got variable cams or a laggy turbo sometimes :confused: hits 3000rpm, suddenly picks up more power and exhaust note changes instantly. More noticeable some days than others. *shrug*

Same, when the I6 hits 3k it really picks up and theres a massive power boost, its noticeable with even 50% throttle.

Same, when the I6 hits 3k it really picks up and theres a massive power boost, its noticeable with even 50% throttle.
Is that when the car starts moving?:P

I do think the 3.5's have a boost of torque so to speak when it gets into the 3k range, definitely feels like its pulling harder in that rev range anywho.

Is that when the car starts moving?:P

I do think the 3.5's have a boost of torque so to speak when it gets into the 3k range, definitely feels like its pulling harder in that rev range anywho.


Its the cams coming into there power band. Should feel this with the blower, soon as it hits 2.5k then a good kick in the pants.

Shouldnt we have another post on new LPG what you get out of a tank?

Just asking

Just put my first full tank of fuel through (lasted a month), 510km.

Same, when the I6 hits 3k it really picks up and theres a massive power boost, its noticeable with even 50% throttle.

thats in part due to the odd gearing in first and the diff in the auto I6s - its a ford thing.
its a tall / short (i get confused on the tall vs short thing) to aid in towing of caravans and trailers and the like.
the I6 is a pretty torquey motor once your a bit off idle, the gearing is just to help it lug its weight off the line esp if you have towage behind you..

I used full tank of ELF 102 in my AWD Verarda in a 155 km rally! But came 5th on the road against a swag of EVO 6's and WRX's, George Woods rally 2006.

I used full tank of ELF 102 in my AWD Verarda in a 155 km rally! But came 5th on the road against a swag of EVO 6's and WRX's, George Woods rally 2006.

nice job, but you do realise you could have saved a ton of money and run 98, 95, or ULP and got the same performance?

on topic, I've done a bunch of k's over the last week running my engine in. got over 610km out of 60.5L. I'm expecting that figure to go down for this tank, as I've passed the 1000km mark and can start pushing the pedal on the right a bit harder! lol

cheers,
.wook

Actual figures kept for over an year

Woolies unleaded – 37 Fills = 8.90 kmpl = 11.23 lt/km

E10 – 13 Fills (6 x Shell, 2 x Mobil, 5 x BP) = 8.92 kmpl = 11.21 lt/km

Shell unleaded – 5 Fills = 9.05 kmpl = 11.04 lt/km

Car is a TF Sports. 4 speed Triptronic. 183xxx km. Tyre pressure ~34 Psi

This proves that due to the absence of the knock sensor, it does not really matter what fuel you put in (For mileage)

This proves that due to the absence of the knock sensor, it does not really matter what fuel you put in (For mileage)

that may be so for the 3 servo's where you put fuel in, however i've noticed an a huge difference between the servo's that i've used in my area;

Safeway Caltex: 15-16L/100km
Shell: 14-15L/100km
BP: 12-13L/100km

These figures were AFTER i changed my O2 Sensor

i've stayed clear of all servo's except for BP due to that reason, and it's not only the local Caltex/Shell servo's near my place with bad quality fuel, it's pretty much been the same story at any other Caltex/Shell that i've filled up at.

that may be so for the 3 servo's where you put fuel in, however i've noticed an a huge difference between the servo's that i've used in my area;

Safeway Caltex: 15-16L/100km
Shell: 14-15L/100km
BP: 12-13L/100km

These figures were AFTER i changed my O2 Sensor

i've stayed clear of all servo's except for BP due to that reason, and it's not only the local Caltex/Shell servo's near my place with bad quality fuel, it's pretty much been the same story at any other Caltex/Shell that i've filled up at.

I actually used 4 different Servos.

Let me also provide a breakdown for the 3 different servos used for E10. Admittedly it is not a lot of data but at least it is there. Also the driving conditions were not altered too much. i mean no interstate trips. Most of my driving involves 60% highway and 40% city

Mobil E10 - 2 Fills = 8.74 kmpl = 11.44 lt/km
Shell E10 - 6 Fills = 8.96 kmpl = 11.16 lt/km
BP E10 - 5 Fills = 8.96 kmpl = 11.16 lt/km

If the figures vary slightly from original post, then blame excel for rounding up etc.

If required I can put up the spreadsheet which shows the impact in the weeks of getting a service done, doing Barry mod's, checking tyre pressure and putting EFI cleaner.

i won't use BP in my 00 Sports at all, it dosen't like it what so ever. i maniley use caltex (i've got a discount car for there)

i won't use BP in my 00 Sports at all, it dosen't like it what so ever. i maniley use caltex (i've got a discount car for there)
really?

people are always telling me that they stay away from caltex and stick to bp

really?

people are always telling me that they stay away from caltex and stick to bp

yea man, it runs rough at idle and i only get 300k's out of tank on on around town. if i use caltex,bp,shell or united i get around 450-500k's out of a tank around town

i only use shell 98 or bp 98, no exceptions

i'm getting about 450km's from 56 litre's of LPG which is 13l per 100 k's and i get 11.2 on petrol,pretty happy with that considering i don't alway's drive with economy in mind :badgrin:

i havent driven on a full tank yet as ive only had my car for 6days, but im currently at 11.7lt/100km on Caltex/Safeway and i havent really driven that economical, so on a good week i hould be able to get under 10lt/100km

when i got the car it came with half a tank and that lasted me nearly 400km! i would be interested to know what fuel was used..

My KJ Xi never EVER gets any worse than 10.5L/100Km. Usually averages between 9.9-10.2.

Thats a combination of highway and city/residential, and my giving it a boot here and there.....

When I drive like an old man all week I can do 9.6's, but for the sake of 1L/100km I drive like a normal 23yo bloke and I love the economy...love the torque of the 3.5 only having to feather the pedal and it goes up hills in top gear.

really?

people are always telling me that they stay away from caltex and stick to bp

Nothing wrong with Caltex, used it ever since ive owned a car, and the olds have used it for over 10 years. Again another Urban myth, what happens to ones persons car is completely different to others, now that woolies petrol is caltex it is all the same stuff the petrol from there is from the same refinery as the petrol down the road. Every servo has to meet specifications octane rating wise and also contamination. They usually get tested regularly.

Best tip is to fill up at servos that have a high turnover, that way you know that it hasnt been sitting around for ages.

Hi Ive recently coverted a 98 tf(150 klms) to lpg, and as near as I can tell am getting about 16 l per100 klm.I got a Tl dedicated gets 12.
Any one else got a 3 litre on gas?what kind of consumption please?
Thanks:redface:

Currently my car is N/A for a while, also has a new oxygen sensor and is now manual.
I'm now averaging 11L/100km, down from 14L/100km when i was S/C and auto.

Currently my car is N/A for a while, also has a new oxygen sensor and is now manual.
I'm now averaging 11L/100km, down from 14L/100km when i was S/C and auto.

Your car doesnt run on LPG does it??? And isn't it also a 3.5L ?

Ollie

Your car doesnt run on LPG does it??? And isn't it also a 3.5L ?

Ollie
Haha nah not LPG, and yes it's a 3.5L.

Hi Ive recently coverted a 98 tf(150 klms) to lpg, and as near as I can tell am getting about 16 l per100 klm.I got a Tl dedicated gets 12.
Any one else got a 3 litre on gas?what kind of consumption please?
Thanks:redface:
I got a TW on the barBcue stuff, and its gettin 15l per 100 round town, but its going in for tune this friday, expecting better things.

My KL recently has shot up to 15l/100km from a once respectable 10.5-11.5. And this is city driving.
The car is at 93500km so I think its due for change.

im very happy with my economy at the moment, i have done around 280km so far, just under 2/3's of a tank left with a range of 400km to go, around 9.2litres/100km.

Stock TE 3lt Auto.

50Kg of audio gear in boot constantly.

10.6lt/100km around town.

after a full week of use to work and back (plus a trip to mt dandenong) i managed to get 640kms out of my tank!

that mostly consisted taking frankston freeway and beach road to work and back (frankston north area to port melbourne)

my car doin 19.6 L/100km ATM :headbange :swearing:

19 per 100km!!!???

thats insane, i couldn't get that high if a tried!

my car doin 19.6 L/100km ATM :headbange :swearing:

Did you forget to put the fuel cap on???

my car doin 19.6 L/100km ATM :headbange :swearing:

get that peice if lead out of your right foot:D

time to check that o2 sensor.

my fuel economy has been getting quite ordinnary lately.... its gone from around 600-650 a tank, down to around 550 or even less some times.

mind you, my car has just clicked over 380,000km....

think its time for new plugs, oil and maybe an air filter - last time i looked at the panel filter, it was pretty much just black!

I think the Mitsubishi claimed 8L / 100km 'Combined' economy is a little hard to reach...

who has got 887.5km from a full tank? (71L)???

dreamin!

my fuel economy has been getting quite ordinnary lately.... its gone from around 600-650 a tank, down to around 550 or even less some times.

mind you, my car has just clicked over 380,000km....

think its time for new plugs, oil and maybe an air filter - last time i looked at the panel filter, it was pretty much just black!

I think the Mitsubishi claimed 8L / 100km 'Combined' economy is a little hard to reach...

who has got 887.5km from a full tank? (71L)???

dreamin!

pretty close, I once managed 6.9l/100km average over a 950km trip. This netted me around 850km's to a single tank. Not sure how much was left though before i topped up but i reckon enough in the tank for at least another 70km's.

my car doin 19.6 L/100km ATM :headbange :swearing:
I've been there, peak-hour traffic through the sydney CBD. Took me around an hour to move 3km

Mine was 19.8 though :P

Something interesting that I have discovered recently is that since I stopped using E10 and starting using 98 PULP, I am not getting that rotten egg smell from the kitty cat converter anymore. I do not recall the car ever having the smell when I used 91 ULP in the past either. So yeah, if you can detect the smell from your car when stationary, especially after spirited driving, it 'could' be E10 if you are using it. It is not very good fuel as I have since realised.

I've been there, peak-hour traffic through the sydney CBD. Took me around an hour to move 3km

Mine was 19.8 though :P


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dats my AVG Fuel /100km
on the freeway will be mid 16's then go up to 19's once im off the freeway :cry:
very sad

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dats my AVG Fuel /100km
on the freeway will be mid 16's then go up to 19's once im off the freeway :cry:
very sad
Considered replacing your o2 sensor? A VE SS commodore (6L V8) uses about 18L-20L/100 when being absolutely hammered, thats not normal dude.

A magna being hammered would use about 14-15 max.

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dats my AVG Fuel /100km
on the freeway will be mid 16's then go up to 19's once im off the freeway :cry:
very sad

Bloody hell. Yeah get your 02 sensor checked. Could also be worth replacing your coolant sender.
My XE gets slightly better economy then a brand new merc truck LOL

Changed the fuel filter and oil in my car and my economy went from 16.5 down to 12.7, thats with aircon.

Changed the fuel filter and oil in my car and my economy went from 16.5 down to 12.7, thats with aircon.
WOW! That's a massive difference. your old fuel coming out of that filter must of looked like coke

Considered replacing your o2 sensor?
What he should consider doing is not adding a "1" to the start of every 2 digit speed limit, and replacing the "1" with a "2" on every 3 digit speed limit :bowrofl:

I've been consistently getting 15-16L/100km the last few months, my worst being 21L/100km one tank. Changed the o2 a couple of weeks ago, first full tank on it, 11.3L/100km! Pretty much what Mitsu says the Verada will do mixed city/highway :D

Big thanks to MitchellO for the o2 which is now a part of my car :P

']WOW! That's a massive difference. your old fuel coming out of that filter must of looked like coke
Should have seen the oil!! Drained it twice to get as much gunk out of it as possible.

Been tracking in a spreadsheet over the last 6 months; 98 TF Exec. Heads rebuilt in June.

She's done 11,037km's between a fill up on July 1 and a fill up yesterday morning. Averaged 10.543L/100km's, which translates into 9.562km's per litre. I'm pretty happy with that; I was thinking I could ultimately drive her down to an average of around 10 L/100kms but I can't see that happening.

Best was 8.834 L/100km's when we went to Lakes Entrance (300km drive), worst was yesterday (!) at 12.631 L/100km's. But - the fill before was 9.197 L/100km's and I remember the pump kept shutting off saying it was full, so I suspect I didn't have a completely full tank. Genuine worst was 11.861 which had been a week of round town stop start driving just before we went away.

Fuel used most of the time was 95 E10 from United. There's also a tank of 98 Shell VPower in there, couple of tanks of Caltex 91 and a couple of tanks of United 91.

Happy to make my spreadsheet available to anyone who wants to use it or check it's calculating correctly.


Regards, Tony

I'll tell you all what a TL ES does on the highway on Sunday. :cool:

I'll tell you all what a TL ES does on the highway on Sunday. :cool:

Ahhh so your the one who brought Vega's car heh.


Update to mine, added a Ezboy Podbox + pod and picked up around .5l saving per 100.

Ahhh so your the one who brought Vega's car heh.


Update to mine, added a Ezboy Podbox + pod and picked up around .5l saving per 100.
Maaaaybe. You'll have to wait and see.

filled up on the highway on the way home (cant remember the place i filled up - it was before Callipoe i know that much! lol)

TC indicated 720DTE when cycling thru the system check thingy.

car needs an oil and oil filter change too atm, so its gotta be hurting the econ a lil

Im gettin about 570-600 a tank and averaging around 10.2-10.6 over the week mostly done on urban roads.

after a absolute rampage up the mountains to mt baw baw, my car averaged out to be 10.7litres/100km which i think is quite reasonable, after keeping up with my mates twin turbo soarer! i got around 530km out of the tank

Now avergaing 570km from a tank of fuel
I reckon this should drop to around 520km once the blower's back on and retuned next week

TH Sports 3.5 LTR 5 speed manual, 290.000 kms on the odo, 16/215/60R16 at 36psi, Repsol 5w40 Elite Evolution synthetic oil, BP Ultimate 71LTR tank. 100% stock engine.

Best: All freeway driving, 870km's going to perth. Similar coming back.

Mixed Freeway-City driving can be anywhere from 550 to 650

All city driving, average 500

I'll tell you all what a TL ES does on the highway on Sunday. :cool:
Aaaaand, the official figure is... 7.9L/100. Needless to say I'm very happy about that!

Aaaaand, the official figure is... 7.9L/100. Needless to say I'm very happy about that!

A few simple mods and BAM! Top shelf fuel economy. I hope the ride home was as smooth as the 25k I put on her.

A few simple mods and BAM! Top shelf fuel economy. I hope the ride home was as smooth as the 25k I put on her.
Smooth? :bowrofl: It's rough as guts! Haha. I've ordered some stock shocks. No mods for this one! Leaving it alone!

Just did a trip up north to taree from Liverpool (syd)
8.1/100KM's!!! I was absolutely stoked with this for a 3L V6 auto loaded up with the family...:bowrofl:

Managed roughly 665km this week on a full tank was stoked. Had a new fuel filter put in this week which might have helped. Most of it was urban driving but the last quater tank was a long trip down to Bawley Point and was on dead empty on the way back at Ulladulla.

Average Fuel is sittin at 10.6, not bad.

Managed roughly 665km this week on a full tank was stoked. Had a new fuel filter put in this week which might have helped. Most of it was urban driving but the last quater tank was a long trip down to Bawley Point and was on dead empty on the way back at Ulladulla.

Average Fuel is sittin at 10.6, not bad.
just filled up at 610km out of 65L = 10.7 L/100km.

I don't understand how you guys with stock engines are using so much fuel?

Stock TJ 3.5 manual, only a k&n air filter so far... geting at least 600 k's per tank, thats only using 65 litres fill up on every tuesday includes random city or highway driving, ive had 900ish on a trip to qld one time the whole tank was dedicated to the trip

Just did a trip up north to taree from Liverpool (syd)
8.1/100KM's!!! I was absolutely stoked with this for a 3L V6 auto loaded up with the family...:bowrofl:
Easy to do, I can pull 9L/100km with a full load (5 people, and a full boot) which is approx 400kg extra weight.

Easy to do, I can pull 9L/100km with a full load (5 people, and a full boot) which is approx 400kg extra weight.

Easy do 9L/100km lol buggar, I was stoked this week to have 9.6 on my average fuel. I usually sit on 10.4

just filled up at 610km out of 65L = 10.7 L/100km.

I don't understand how you guys with stock engines are using so much fuel?
Its the lead in our foots, mines sitting on 13.7l/100k all sydney peak hour driving.

Daily driving consisting of:

20% urban roads (50km/h)
30% @ 60kh/h (traffic)
35% @ 70km/h (traffic)
10% @ 80km/h
5% highway (110km/h)

Averaging 9.8-10lt/100km.

Thats with aircon on half the time. 3lt Auto V6. Cruise control used on every road I can. Oh and a boot full of audio gear.

TH EXEC 3.0 AUTO city 11-12l/100, highway 9l/100.Best 8.3l/100 driving to the grampians, 6hours on the highway.

i do 90% 50-60km/h

mine sit's anywhere between 10-11.5 avg.

i still get 500-600 outta a tank.

60% 60km/h, 70km/h
20% 80km/h
20% freeway

so far ive done 510km, and used 48litres. so about 9.5lt/100km which is on par for me

TW VR-X Tiptronic Box. No Mods. Here are the figures.

91RON BP petrol

8.5L/100KM - Adl to Geelong. Driving alone with 1 suitcase.

11.5 - 12.5L/100km Adelaide city. About 2 Hard accelerations off the lights a day, and I live in the hills.

I get about an average 570km for a full tank with a TF 97 3.0 auto on caltex.

I'm currently getting SFA outta of a tank atm, aircon is draining my peterolzzz

It is a bit pointless to have a poll that doesnt really consider driving conditions. A good rough diea though! My economy with city driving sits at 13.8l/100km and with mostly country driving: 8.8l/100 km

Surprising thing is, my cars done 250,000 kms and is a 3.5l 99 verada. The new accord hybrid according to tests does about 8.8l/100 km of 30% urban and 70% rural, gets me thinking.....is the hybrid REALLY the solution?

I'm currently getting SFA outta of a tank atm, aircon is draining my peterolzzz
Thats quite supprising, recently I did a 900km round-trip and got 700km out of a tank with the aircon on full-ball. Eco read 8.7L highway, and 9.9L city

It doesnt matter if your aircon is on "full ball" or not, the air con is either on or off.
The fan runs off the alternator

Thats quite supprising, recently I did a 900km round-trip and got 700km out of a tank with the aircon on full-ball. Eco read 8.7L highway, and 9.9L city


the air con doesnt seem to effect my economy at all! either does having the windows down..im still getting like 9.5-10 suburban driving

Got a 96 magna. On gas, no mods atm as I only just got it. Driving would be half highway & half stop/start, must say I drive it pretty hard.. Get about 400/450ks from $25 of gas. Not sure on petrol, haven't done a full tank of driving on it yet. After having a VR V8 with ported heads an a few other things modded, the magna seems great on saving $$$! :P

I'm getting around 15l/100k driving like granny around the "city".

Changed o2 sensor, fuel filter, had the injectors cleaned and nothing has changed it, sigh not really sure what else i can do.

Gonna go change the oil/filter and see how she comes up.

Should I be resetting the ecu after getting the injectors cleaned?

I was getting 14.5l/100. It gradually made it's way up to 18.5l/100 over a period of 3 months. I've just had the O2 sensor replaced. Consumption is now back to 14 - 15. 90% inner suburban peak-hour stop-start 60km/h max driving in addition to 10% 80km/h arterial road driving. Av. speed reading ~25km/h. Mainly gently driving, ie. under 2700rpm.

Is 14-15 l/100 ok for a 9 year old, fully serviced TH that's covered 180k? I've been told it is but I'm seeing much better figures here.

If it is high, and considering I've replaced the O2 sensor, what else could be causing this?

At this rate, I'll have to convert it to LPG.

W.

4 cyclinder cars aren't the solution, and thats what most hybrid engines are combined with! The only reason why a 4 cyclinder is more efficient is because they're generally so small of an engine and aren't pulling much weight around. 6 cylinder engines are generally put in to bigger cars (and are bigger themselves), thus using more fuel! A small straight six in a small/mid size car would actually be more efficient. This is what the Holden Epica has, a 2.5L straight six. Its very efficient, it uses less fuel than it would with a 4 cylinder, and would use less fuel if the engine were a modern one! (such as direct injection etc etc).

The latest Toyota Camry (4 cylinder) uses more fuel than the Aurion (V6), which is essentially the same car with different panels and trim. The Aurion may be slightly heavier...!

4 cyclinder cars aren't the solution, and thats what most hybrid engines are combined with! The only reason why a 4 cyclinder is more efficient is because they're generally so small of an engine and aren't pulling much weight around. 6 cylinder engines are generally put in to bigger cars (and are bigger themselves), thus using more fuel! A small straight six in a small/mid size car would actually be more efficient. This is what the Holden Epica has, a 2.5L straight six. Its very efficient, it uses less fuel than it would with a 4 cylinder, and would use less fuel if the engine were a modern one! (such as direct injection etc etc).

The latest Toyota Camry (4 cylinder) uses more fuel than the Aurion (V6), which is essentially the same car with different panels and trim. The Aurion may be slightly heavier...!
So what position do you have over at Holden?

The Epica is a heap of rubbish, and sales figures prove this. A 2.5L inline 6 that makes only 115kW, 237Nm, weighs 1,500kgs and averages 9.3L/100km, yeah, right. :roll: The new Lancer 2.4L (4B12) makes 125kW, 226Nm, weighs 1405kgs and averages 8.8L/100. So it's more powerful, lighter and better on fuel for around the same price, but gives up 11Nm in torque.

These days since I have been transfered to another store I am getting an extra 50-100Ks a tank, due to less stop start driving. Has anyone else has changes since the poll?

Yep. Gone from 100km's stop start per week to 3-400km's distance driving. Jumped into the 600+ now for the same reason -more km's without stopping. Very happy.

Regards, Tony

These days since I have been transfered to another store I am getting an extra 50-100Ks a tank, due to less stop start driving. Has anyone else has changes since the poll?

Does changing from a KH to a TL count lol

since I put in the heavy duty clutch in I'm getting 6.9/100. But that's basically all highway k's

since I put in the heavy duty clutch in I'm getting 6.9/100. But that's basically all highway k's

wow that rules dude :D

Does anybody know whether the fitment of driving lights such as these mounted to a bar which is then secured via the number plate bolts would create enough drag at freeway speeds to affect fuel economy to a noticeable level? I do about 50% freeway driving and the para high beams are absolutley woeful compared to my old headlights which had an awesome high beam. Given that DLS has ended, I'll be spending more time driving in the dark. Thanks

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Does anybody know whether the fitment of driving lights such as these mounted to a bar which is then secured via the number plate bolts would create enough drag at freeway speeds to affect fuel economy to a noticeable level? I do about 50% freeway driving and the para high beams are absolutley woeful compared to my old headlights which had an awesome high beam. Given that DLS has ended, I'll be spending more time driving in the dark. Thanks

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If it makes any noticeable difference, I will eat a komodo dragon, whole.

If it makes any noticeable difference, I will eat a komodo dragon, whole.

And I will be there to watch.:facejump:

ATM My car is on about 10.6L/100. When i get my P's and start driving i'll be able to tell an exact figure.

About 12.5 per 100 here. All suburban driving and going up ramps to get to work (shopping centre). Plus my foot is made of lead...

19.1 L/100 on the computer at the moment. My driving is generally all stop start, and while I dont baby the car, I'm aware it is not a race track on the way to work.

Once the O2 sensor is replaced, I hope it will drop down. just as a question, will using nothing but 98 Octane stuff, keep the injectors etc clean? as the plan is to replace the Fuel filter, O2 sensor, i was just wondering whether injectors should be added into this.

3 litre TF with a K&N, running stock with 35 psi in the tyres.
Just about all highway driving, never let the tank drop much under a quarter and getting 550 to 570kms.

02 tj exec auto w/extractors, lukey rear muffler, iridium plugs, k&n panel filter, phelonic intake gasket,strut brace, VSi LPG, and rear swaybar 10L/100km or 600km/60Lt @av 50km/h and 11L/100Km or 540km/60Lt @av 40km/h on petrol and 13L/100 @ av50Km/h or 350km/46lt and 14L/100Km or 320km/46Lt on LPG 50/50
these are at a mix of hwy and bumper2bumper

2002 TJ executive. wifes car. stock. Have only owned it for a month. 184k on odometer. last tank was 64L for 580km of driving. trip computer average was 11L/100km. Approx 60% highway and 40% stop start.

Is driven economically most of the time. fuel was shell 91 ron with a bottle of redline injector cleaner thrown in.

REgards

Epitrochoid

10l/100

97 TF advance, 185***km's, Catback exhaust, racing pedals (ehhe lol)
I normally get around 450km's per tank (Usually highways, but quite a few traffic lights along the highways and I like to get to the speed limit as quick as possible :P), BUT I got 540kms for a tank last week! I gave myself a pat on the back..

Mostly highway/rural road running for me now so fuel average is 9-9.8l/100kms. Should be lower but the air filter's due to be replaced.

Did Melbourne on a single tank last November. First BP on the Hume leaving Melbourne (maybe 5kms out) and made it to another BP just off the Hume coming into the edge of Sydney's suburbs. 780kms on 64L. 2 passengers and boot and rear seat crammed with luggage and other crap.

02 TJ ex manual. 143+++ km's done. Had this ride for around 6 weeks now. Currently getting 350-375k's per tank. Thats cause its city start-stop driving only.

is all that **** you chuck into your almost empty tank to improve fuel economy/clean out injectors fake or are there some good ones that people have tried?

02 TJ ex manual. 143+++ km's done. Had this ride for around 6 weeks now. Currently getting 350-375k's per tank. Thats cause its city start-stop driving only.

That sounds very very low, despite being city start-stop driving :S

is all that **** you chuck into your almost empty tank to improve fuel economy/clean out injectors fake or are there some good ones that people have tried?

What do you think? If a small bottle of stuff you can buy from Repco for $8 is going to be the saviour of the fuel economy crisis, why is it being sold at Repco for $8? Injector cleaner - maybe if they get dirty...

Should be lower but the air filter's due to be replaced.

I have to do this too - she's dropped from 10.45L/100KM to 11.1L/100KM in the last month or so.

That sounds very very low, despite being city start-stop driving :S

Yeah. And thats still driving in "slow" mode...... hmmm it says 13.4 L/100km average on the dash (yes, i reset it a few weeks back).... i wonder Why?

mine says 14.1L/100km i think thats a bit high considering the cars only got about 87,000km on it???

or is it just me iv lived in city ever since had the car and now moveing to suburbs and dont want to stat spending more then i have to on fuel

mine says 14.1L/100km i think thats a bit high considering the cars only got about 87,000km on it???

or is it just me iv lived in city ever since had the car and now moveing to suburbs and dont want to stat spending more then i have to on fuel

Sounds like you need to change your o2.

That sounds very very low, despite being city start-stop driving :S
Just as a guide the worst average I've ever had in my manual TJ Sports is 12.1. Got 14.2 once over a 15 minute period, which was peak hour traffic, air con on full blast, 40 degree ambient temp, and giving it a bootful every time a gap opened in the traffic.

I drove like a grandad and got 645kms on 54 litres. Best I have managed so far. 97 manual exec. I changed up quite early and never went above 2k revs below top gear.
As I drove towards the station to fill up again, it was chugging along all jerky. I was REALLY out of fuel on that run but I really wanted to push it. I drive mainly highway.

How did you know you got 645kms out of 54 litres, if you ran the tank dry at the end of the trip?... How did you know you had 54 litres in the tank before the trip?!!!

you start on a full tank, fill up when the little light comes on the bowser says what fuel you have put in to make the car full again now you have how many ltrs you have used, then look at your dash and see what klms you did since filling up and bang....... result. simple really.

I get around 450 to a tank with mostly short trips (do about 50k a week) while my gf gets 650 - 700 to a tank in hers as it's all highway and about 350k\week.

also depends on how you drive the car also if you put full throttle or just granny drive it is depending on how many kms you get out of a tank, but i usually get 470kms out of a tank when driving normal. but i attend to give it a bit when i come against a 3.8 Ltr VN commodore and i usually beat them 8 times out of 10

Average is currently reading 9.7L/100km, in a mix of about 60% freeway and 40% suburban/city driving. This is an approximate reduction of 0.6L since fitting my high flow muffler a few weeks back. Perhaps I'm imagining things, but ever since fitting the muffler, I have noticed that the average consumption reading adjusts much more frequently.

In my 3.0 TF Around town I get 600-650kms to the full tank.

I took the car up from Sydney to Nimbin (with four of my mates plus luggage), then continued over to Gold Coast and I used only one and a quarter tank from Sydney to get there.

It's economy still surprises me till this day.

Was getting 8.9-9.1 ltrs per 100 km highway cycle from a Nov 04 TW auto sedan which was factory dedicated gas - no petrol system fitted. Worked out to about 600km per tank.

I don't bother putting premium in my tank anymore! Makes absolutely NO difference to consumption what so ever. The 3rd gens are tuned to run on 91, anything higher than that is useless for trying to save money.. OK My 2002 TJ executive 3.5litre Auto.. an easy 730km per tank. My current 1999 Verada 3.5 litre Verada, 550km on a bad week of me thrashing it or 600 or so on a week of driving 'nicely'

Fuel average has been sitting at 10.2l/100k guess thats not bad! But my TJ used to average about 8.5-9.0 on exactly the same trip lol.

Fuel average has been sitting at 10.2l/100k guess thats not bad! But my TJ used to average about 8.5-9.0 on exactly the same trip lol.

changed your fuel filter and oil filter recently? made a difference on my magnas.....

also so does the engine oil(if you possibly changed this recently?)
Think its Penrite HPR10 I found best for the 3rd gens

Luke

My Car did a trip from the Gold Coast back home to Newe last week and used 68L to do 801kms down the Pacific Highway with a detour via Taree plus a trip to the shops the day after I got home before being filled up.

Also did Gold Coast to Gympie going through Brisbane during peak hour both ways and used 41L to do 530kms.

Thats was running on a mixture of Vpower and reg.

I don't bother putting premium in my tank anymore! Makes absolutely NO difference to consumption what so ever. The 3rd gens are tuned to run on 91, anything higher than that is useless for trying to save money.. OK My 2002 TJ executive 3.5litre Auto.. an easy 730km per tank. My current 1999 Verada 3.5 litre Verada, 550km on a bad week of me thrashing it or 600 or so on a week of driving 'nicely'

I get better distance from premium and car runs smoother to boot. Yes, there is no way to advance or retard knock
in a 6G74 but my car does run better on 98. It also has more additives to assist the engine in burning off carbon/soot deposits

yeah I've noticed a bit more smoothness if I run 95, but it doesn't make my fuel average better. I haven't changed the oil filter or fuel filter since i've had it n the oil hasn't been done for 14,000 km lol

yeah I've noticed a bit more smoothness if I run 95, but it doesn't make my fuel average better. I haven't changed the oil filter or fuel filter since i've had it n the oil hasn't been done for 14,000 km lol

Why not? That engine won't last long at all if you keep that up

My fuel has gone up recently. Before I'd be gettin about 10.5 lts now its usually doing about 11.5. Also getting about 450-500 per tank. Thing of it is the car actually has been feeling alot smoother.

Why not? That engine won't last long at all if you keep that up


It should be ok, it's only been this time it's ever gone over and I've been keeping an eye on it. Stuffs been a bit hectik latley round here. I just use my excuse "mums pajero with same motor has made it to 265,000 only being serviced every 15 - 20,000km or MORE since she got it! it goes!"

My fuel has gone up recently. Before I'd be gettin about 10.5 lts now its usually doing about 11.5. Also getting about 450-500 per tank. Thing of it is the car actually has been feeling alot smoother.

Does cooler weather make the car feel smoother? I'm thinking it does, mines been feeling smoother since it's been cold and it's been using more fuel. I'm thinking this is because of the AC coming on to keep the windows unfogged

Does cooler weather make the car feel smoother? I'm thinking it does, mines been feeling smoother since it's been cold and it's been using more fuel. I'm thinking this is because of the AC coming on to keep the windows unfogged

Yea my car was also smoother at night during summer and now is smoother almost all the time. Still I don't use the AC. My heater is almost constantly on but yea pretty much never use the AirCon for windows.

must be it then, i have to have my climate on auto so the AC keeps the windows free of mist. If I manually over ride the Auto mode by turning the AC off my windows fog up straight away! It's the moist cold Air in winter in Tas that does this. I always see poor buggers in modern cars which are obviously equipped with AC using rags to wipe the fog off their windows in winter... lol

Averaging 12l/100k lol.

Well, I drove from Adelaide to Dubbo and back again over the weekend in the AWD.

At speeds of between 115-125km/h (and sometimes above) we averaged about 11L/11km with a boot full of stuff two adults and two kids onboard.

Bit higher than I was expecting (was hoping to dip below 10 but guess my cruising speed was a culprit here).

Last tank I got 9.8L/100km, 643km out of 63L. About 50/50 city/hwy.

Very happy with my eco :)

Currently i am getting approx 20L/100km. Trust me i hope to have that fixed soon.

Currently i am getting approx 20L/100km. Trust me i hope to have that fixed soon.

same, but i dont think mine can be fixed without me lifting my right foot

Getting 9.7L/100Kms average running E10. Normally push about 650kms out of a tank. 3.5L Manual.
God knows what I'll get when I bolt the blower on lol

lately i have been getting 12.2l/100km around town solely.

which im pretty happy with actually
on the highway, my car now regularly dips down below 10l/100km - i think it wants to break into the 8l/100km :eek2:

i am a firm believer in climate control ac is set on all the time - 25degrees is most pleasant at all times :)
EDIT - i also regularly enjoy the limits of the AWD as well and thusly drive a little hard occasionally

lately i have been getting 12.2l/100km around town solely.

which im pretty happy with actually
on the highway, my car now regularly dips down below 10l/100km - i think it wants to break into the 8l/100km :eek2:

i am a firm believer in climate control ac is set on all the time - 25degrees is most pleasant at all times :)
EDIT - i also regularly enjoy the limits of the AWD as well and thusly drive a little hard occasionally

when in QLD, i don't believe in NOT having A/C on.... bloody hell... i threw the idea of saving fuel out the window during my drive from Melbourne to Hervey Bay... A/C on for the entire trip up and back... it was worst in Central NSW where is just warm and dry and humid due to the rain earlier in day...

You should run your AC once a week during winter to keep the seals lubricated. Failure to do so will mean you'll have to get the AC gassed more regularly than you would otherwise need to! The small amount of fuel you'll lose by running the AC for say 15 mins a week will not come close to the regassing cost! - so running the AC can save you money!

You should run your AC once a week during winter to keep the seals lubricated. Failure to do so will mean you'll have to get the AC gassed more regularly than you would otherwise need to! The small amount of fuel you'll lose by running the AC for say 15 mins a week will not come close to the regassing cost! - so running the AC can save you money!
Climate control based 3rd gens makes this easy, air con is automatic with the demister function, so I subconsciously turn the air con on every week during winter without even thinking about it.

Climate control based 3rd gens makes this easy, air con is automatic with the demister function, so I subconsciously turn the air con on every week during winter without even thinking about it.

Same here! Gotta love the climate control, but I gotta admit when the tanks low I turn off the AC in demist mode haha.

I got around 450kms per tank, it's a 2001 TJ VRX. I mainly drive it in 60k zone so it fair enough.

Did a return trip from Sydney to Tamworth and surrounds on Sunday last week 2002 kj Advance 4 sp auto to pick up a TF wagon. Overall fuel consumption was 7.9 l/100km. This included some stop start driving and driving around Tamworth, On highway it was a little better. Checked trip computer against refills and they agree.The TE manual wagon did 8.5 for 330km of highway driving. my monday and tuesday travel around Sydney 149 km gave an average of 10.2. Not likely to get much better, unless one goes for a really small car 1600/1800cc.

Well on my trip from Townsville to Oakey, west of Toowoomba, the Rada averaged 8.8l/100km, at an average speed of 105kph. Considering the car was packed with a few of my belongings(full boot and backseat) and AWD I think the consumption was pretty good.

I am glad that the low profile directional tyres haven't made a difference to fuel economy, 7.3l/100km from Sydney-Canberra-Sydney. Used just over half a tank for nigh on 600km!

Myself and Tecodan were testing last night on the hume @ 110km/h

Mine being a 3lt auto, Dans being a 3.5lt Manual.

Myself - 6.1-7.0L/100km
Dan - 6.5-8.1L/100km

This was measured over a distance of 40km (I did not have cruise control, Dan did)

I was quite impressed with my figures, my guess is that it is a result of cleaning the throttle body and intake manifold out (removing the carbon buildup)

for a full tank my 2003 sports awd got 304kms with a avarage 19.1L/100kms

now i know thats shit house i dont drive the car hard and it was all stop and starting town driving but i still think its a little high?
what could be causing such a bad fuel economy????? any help would be awsome 19.1L/100kms is shit yeah...

for a full tank my 2003 sports awd got 304kms with a avarage 19.1L/100kms

now i know thats shit house i dont drive the car hard and it was all stop and starting town driving but i still think its a little high?
what could be causing such a bad fuel economy????? any help would be awsome 19.1L/100kms is shit yeah...

Try a search, if this is your average town driving figure (non-peak hour) I would suggest your o2 sensor may be playing up.

for a full tank my 2003 sports awd got 304kms with a avarage 19.1L/100kms

now i know thats shit house i dont drive the car hard and it was all stop and starting town driving but i still think its a little high?
what could be causing such a bad fuel economy????? any help would be awsome 19.1L/100kms is shit yeah...
I actually agree with Life for a change, o2 sensor might be worth looking at. How many km's has your car done, and have you changed it before? A typical awd should be sitting around the 14-15L/100km mark iirc in stop start traffic on petrol.

Dang I hate chasing fuel consumption issues.

In a previous car, 1.6L 5spd manual, 900kg - driving the tits off it at every chance, rarely ever shifting below 4,000rpm, but normally taking it to 6500, it would struggle to use more than 10.0L / 100km.
Driving from Sydney to Melbourne, it managed 6.0L / 100km.
1/4 mile time was 16.4 and 0-100 probably 10.0 seconds. so it was no slouch for an n/a.

I've just done my first tank in the AWD - trip computer says 17.9L / 100km. I am just getting used to it and probably it's right foot to blame. I'll hope this improves over the next few tanks as I get used to it.

Dang I hate chasing fuel consumption issues.

In a previous car, 1.6L 5spd manual, 900kg - driving the tits off it at every chance, rarely ever shifting below 4,000rpm, but normally taking it to 6500, it would struggle to use more than 10.0L / 100km.
Driving from Sydney to Melbourne, it managed 6.0L / 100km.
1/4 mile time was 16.4 and 0-100 probably 10.0 seconds. so it was no slouch for an n/a.

I've just done my first tank in the AWD - trip computer says 17.9L / 100km. I am just getting used to it and probably it's right foot to blame. I'll hope this improves over the next few tanks as I get used to it.

Try to avoid E10 fuel too, I found my car really doesn't like it.

Try to avoid E10 fuel too, I found my car really doesn't like it.
E10 isn't as good as normal ULP for any car, and the money saved is lost in fuel economy, so really all your doing is making the servos more money.

Well I run my vcar hard at times and over the last 3 months(last time i reset it) ive managed to keep it at 9.6l/100km.
So far all ive done is put on a K&N filter. Before i put that in i was running around 11l/100km. But then again i have also stopped flooring it as much so i try and save petrol. Also, i only use VPower from Shell. I used to have to use it for my old volvo, otherwise the thing wouldnt last a week before it ran out

here are a few things i have done to take my fuel consmption fom 10.5 l/100km to 8.7 l/100 avg on my weekly 250km trip from dalby to bris.

1)K&N panel filter
2) Remove the rubber strip on the bonnet in front of the airbox intake (more free flowing air helps i think)
3) install new earths, which i personally think helps the car idle and run better
4) Goodyear eagle F1's on 18's @ 37PSI instead of 34, i found when i put the new tyre on and got not much difference but when i pumped them up it dropped 0.5L/100 or so.

i found PULP makes no difference/if not worse then ULP

on the trip from caboolture to sunny coast i can get as low as 7.5-8

around town i get 12.5-15 but thats cause i live in a small town and don't get above 60 ever.

3.5L FWD tippy VRX is my car

Hope some of these ieas help

filled up sunday, used something like 62litres - fuel light was on, got 540ish kms out of the tank

i haddnt been babying it either, but somewhat more casual in drive last week.

still cost me 77bucks to fill up :nuts:
that and i DO put 95octan in my car - i dont care i dont get extra econ, i like pissing money out of the exhaust.
that and MY car in MY experience, idles better and is smoother. results may vary as we know - placebo or otherwise

My LPG TL AWD just did 14.8l/100km
LPG is $0.50 per litre, 14.8 * 0.5 = $7.40
Prior to LPG it did around 11l/100lm
11 * 1.20 = $13.20

So it saves around $5.8 per 100km

LPG Installation costs around $700, with the governments $2000 rebate, so after roughly 12000 km the LPG unit is payed off.

Thought i would give an update on my wifes tj11 exec.

I have used a can of subaru upper cylinder cleaner through the engine. there was bugger all white smoke which means the engine has very little carbon deposits.:happy: This made no difference to fuel economy though.

This subaru cleaner is a really good product. I have used it in my 93 v6 triton and it surprisingly cleaned a lot of carbon out (white smoke from exhaust) and stopped my annoying lifter tick on cold start.

I have also changed the engine oil (the old stuff had done 7000kms unknown viscosity) to a castrol 5w-30 fully synthetic (slx3). this has lowered the average from about 11.5 to 11.1 litres per 100kms. these figures are from the trip computer.

I also did the 02 sensor, only to find it had been replaced before :doh: so of course this change made no difference.

I would also like to change the rear muffler but i need to convince the wife a bit more

Regards

Epitrochoid

With a stuffed catalytic converter my fuel econ has gone to hell... need my tax back soon.

Hey,
I use subaru upper engine cleanear every service, got HM headers, 2.5" redback cat back, with Lukey rear muffler.... On LPG (std converter type) i get 500ks normal suburban driving, and aronud 600 when i go to uni alot (freeway ks 70ks each way) - On fuel i get around the 600 mark suburban driving. I have also had my Oxygen sensors changed when i put the gas system in and i usually change at about 2000-2400 depending on situation (not to say i dont go up to 4000 when i need to overtake etc)... just normal driving.

You Choose

It also has a lot to do with the quality of fuel, dont buy wollies discounted ******* it comes from Indonesia and a full of S***. Buy the Shell ULD or BP ULTM.
Every major fuel company in Aust. other than Caltex/Woolworths and Ampol imports their fuel from U.A.E United Arab Emirates (They're not fighting for peace... they're fighting for oil domination !!), which sits in big fuel Vats and company's buy it from here. Alot of little servo's import their fuel from indonesia because its cheaper,,, but u end up with problems. Car runs rough, sluggish, hessitant, water in system etc. Then you have to buy a fuel additive about $15- $20 to get rid of that S**** not to mention a fuel filter.
So if you think ya gettin a bargain with your discount voucher.... you may be not.
Cheaper is not always better.
I jus get 800km's out a of shell Premium or 675 if i tow a trailer load..and its only done 180k man v6 HWY DRIVIN
Its your decision

You Choose

It also has a lot to do with the quality of fuel, dont buy wollies discounted ******* it comes from Indonesia and a full of S***. Buy the Shell ULD or BP ULTM.
Every major fuel company in Aust. other than Caltex/Woolworths and Ampol imports their fuel from U.A.E United Arab Emirates (They're not fighting for peace... they're fighting for oil domination !!), which sits in big fuel Vats and company's buy it from here. Alot of little servo's import their fuel from indonesia because its cheaper,,, but u end up with problems. Car runs rough, sluggish, hessitant, water in system etc. Then you have to buy a fuel additive about $15- $20 to get rid of that S**** not to mention a fuel filter.
So if you think ya gettin a bargain with your discount voucher.... you may be not.
Cheaper is not always better.
I jus get 800km's out a of shell Premium or 675 if i tow a trailer load..and its only done 180k man v6 HWY DRIVIN
Its your decision

errrrrm but I dont know where you get your information from, but all Caltex/woolies fuel comes from Chevron derived refineries all over Asia Pacific. You can't pinpoint Caltex fuel down to a single country!!!

Just worked out my economy for the last few weeks and i've been getting between 10.5 and 11L/100km which is pretty darn good considering i'm a bit of a leadfoot. ($40 a week at $1.20c/L = 33.33L gets me about 320km a week) :D

It also has a lot to do with the quality of fuel, dont buy wollies discounted ******* it comes from Indonesia and a full of S***. Buy the Shell ULD or BP ULTM.

I think when Woollies first sold petrol, before the Caltex joint venture, they were importing their fuel as you said, but it's been typical Aussie fuel for a long time now.

A friend worked at a small Shell outlet a long time ago and advised me to never buy petrol from Shell. That and horror stories about Shell Optimax means that I've used Shell petrol about 3 times in the last 10 years.

Well, I'm lucky to get about 14L/100km out of my KL Verada (doing 90% peak hour driving on main roads) so I think I'll get them to look at the Oxy sensor, AFM and maybe vacuum lines (cos the cruise doesn't work and I have a rough idle.)

I recently took my TJ auto down south east and was getting 8.9 litres per 100k. Not long back on a trip to melbourne I got 8.7. Car has done 120,000klm and been regularly serviced only added extra is a K&N airfilter.

With a stuffed catalytic converter my fuel econ has gone to hell... need my tax back soon.

Apparently cat is fine... lookin into spark plugs and leads. I used to get awesome kms on the VRX now its down to 450km to a tank.

The new Verada GTV I bought last week is averaging 9.2l/100kms running on BP Unleaded 95.
Probably 60/40% country/city.

3.5 th exec wagon, no engine mods yet. bout 90% free/highway runs heaps nanna style and bout 10% city p plate driving, computer reads 10.4ltr per100km. never emptied the tank, but got to 540km with just under quarter tank left, so guessing 551-600.

got 647km countryish driving before the i chickened out at the BP on 98 octane! reckon coulda got to 660 but im not willing to walk.

filled up today for the first time in a couple of weeks... I had topped up with $20 earlier this week which accounts for the fuel being more than the tank will hold ;o)

I got 675km out of 77.6L or 11.5L/100km. mostly city driving. not too shabby I reckon.

cheers,
.wook

TJ ES auto, no mods, approx. 88k, I generally drive like a responsible citizen 99% of the time as my 'hoon' days are long over (thats why I drive a :mits: Magna now) and my trip computer maintains 12l around town. If i do a longer trip at a continuous speed I can get it down to around 11.x l. I was wondering about this as economy was one of the main reasons I bought the car. Funnily enough though running on Synergy 98 makes pretty much no differance to economy over standard ulp if not makes the car run ever so slightly smoother. I live in Adelaide so the roads are flat and the traffic is light almost everywhere I go.

Mon-Fri commute Central Coast/Gordon Sydney mixture of freeway and suburban 9.3L average. Around town on the weekend 9.5 to 9.6L. 91 ULP from Mobil with A/C always on and 43psi in the tyres.

Just took a trip this week to NSW. From Heathcote to Lockhart(near Wagga Wagga) 430klms, then to Corowa and back 260klms, then Lockhart back to Heathcote today 430klms so all up 1120klms. Left with 1/3 of a tank, hit Wangaratta, filled up from 1/4 tank for $56 @ 119.9c/l and put another $60 @ 117.9c/l in it on the way home today. Arrived back with 1/2 of a tank. With me and the Mrs, 3 kids, a dog and a boot full. With the climate on we are now averaging 10.2l/100klms. Lil bit high for mostly hwy driving(at 115kph) but I also couldnt resist and did a couple of impressive burnouts when I was up there. Middle of nowhere, my bro inlaw was trying to impress me in his V8 Manual VS ute.... lol Showed him. (note: done on private property) ;)

I think my cat is either stuffed or close to it, as it stinks and performance has dropped a bit and the avg economy has increased by a litre or so.

Hi guys, I have a 7-05 TW ES sedan auto 100% stock, still on original tyres (59000KM). Around town in baby mode, between 330 and 350KM on E10, less on any other fuel. On highway, between 440 and 460KM again on E10, less on any other fuel. Mitsubishi say that is normal, yet when I first got the car (with only 18000KM on clock), I drove from Cairns to Brisbane and averaged 6.7L/100KM.

I can say mine is a LOT thirstier around town, but not that bad.

Still under waranty? Get the O2 sensor checked. Chuck a bottle of good injector cleaner in it.

It ia still under waranty till Jully 2010. Have had Mitsubishi check it over several times. Had them do an injector clean/treatment, throtal body clean and a check of all sensers. They tell everything is spot on. Its cost a bit so far trying to get it to run like it did origanally.

running E10 could be your issue... but i can't see how you could use THAT much more...

Averaging Mid 10's to Low 11's per 100km in the TL at the moment from 50/50 town congested / uncongested/highway driving which I'm pretty happy with considering these AWD's are meant to drink. Returned 13.3L/100km on the tank which involved fanging it up and down GOR all weekend the weekend before last too, which to me seems pretty sweet, I was lucky to ever get 13.3 from any form of driving on petrol in the Verada.

mines a 96 TE mods are extractors pod filter. and the idles tuned up abit. i only run mine on normal 91 unleaded. when i flog it i get around 340-400 kms to a full tank but driveing slow i get around 500-550

My TL according to the trip computer gets about 11.3L/100km if u drive it sensibly and about 7.5-8.5L/100km on the highway. If you drive it fast, it'll be around 12-13.5L/100km so it is pretty good on fuel. Once I looked on th trip computer and the range said 560km on the tank so I was very suprised! :D

I'm getting 12L/100 flat-out with all the mods I'v done so far....

Run my 3.0L on 95 premium unleaded and get over 550km out of the tank. 90% highway driving at the speed limit of 110km/h (and slower depending on traffic conditions). A drive (of over 300km) from the NW coast of Tasmania to Hobart uses less than half a tank.

mines pretty much stock i get at least 600k from a tank, i find it doesnt change with the type of fuel i use, but thats with alot of hway driving, through the city itll go down to 500ish a tank but doesnt really matter when i run it on whatever fuel is cheapest (i refuse to use anything with ethanol in it though)

maybe I just get awesome economy, but this is last week's trip to Sydney, some city gridlock, some spirited driving, and then the trip home...

total kms = 762.5
total fuel = 80.89L
L/100kms = 10.6

Thought I might update my fuel Economy in here too.

Oct 2003 KL AWD Verada...
I think i would be lucky to push 400kms out of a full tank of juice!

I get about 16.6L/100km average on the highway,
currently getting around 16.7L/100km around town.

I dare not use the aircon around town.... unless its REALLY hot and i know that im not going to have to do stop start for a lil while - because then my fuel econ gets really scary...

Damn Supercharger! lol

7.2l/100km on the highway. i suppose its the only good thing about being forced to stay under 90kmh

i get between 350 to 400 km to a tank around town but get about 500 on a long trip i had a v8 that was more economical

i get between 350 to 400 km to a tank around town but get about 500 on a long trip i had a v8 that was more economical

Something wrong with your car then my man. I constantly get 650+kms to a tank with a mix of city and highway/urban. Average speed of around 55km/h, 10.3L/100km.

Agree. My long term average is 10.389 combined, and that's with 83 tanks worth of data recorded over the last 18 months.

400-450km per tank, 98 octane BP ultimate

TJII Magna 3.5 Auto

Pod Filter, High Flow Throttle body ( suppose to increase fuel ecconomy? ) Haltech Interceptor piggyback Ecu (Currently loaded with base map and slightly tuned myself 2 degree advanced spark and little bit more fuel at higher revs @ load), Sard Fuel Pressure regulator, 2.5" inch exhaust from engine pipe back no cat with varex remote control exhaust,

Mainly town driving but very fast heavy driving when in between towns ( Cracked a set of slotted DBA rotors and burnt through a set of Bendix Ultimate Pads in 4 weeks :-O)

Dead Stock '98 TF Magna Solara, 2.0 litre V6, 5 sp manual.

Somewhere between 500-550 k's per tank so far.

I've only had it for about 2 weeks now, so I'll wait longer and see how it goes.

That 500-550 k's per tank is all open country road driving around 110 and 120kph with zippy take-offs. I'm afraid I don't Grandpa it down even though I am a Grandpa lol

Recent update....

TH Magna 3.0 V6 4SP Auto - 8.5L/100km
KH Verada 3.5 V6 4SP Auto - 8.8L/100km

Distance measured from Geelong VIC to Campbelltown NSW :)

Both had AC on, were going 110km/h, and the sunroof was down on the KH for the last 3 hours of the trip.

Dead Stock '98 TF Magna Solara, 2.0 litre V6, 5 sp manual.

Somewhere between 500-550 k's per tank so far.

I've only had it for about 2 weeks now, so I'll wait longer and see how it goes.

That 500-550 k's per tank is all open country road driving around 110 and 120kph with zippy take-offs. I'm afraid I don't Grandpa it down even though I am a Grandpa lol

2.0 Litre?

Just drove down from Airleys Beach in QLD down to Melbourne (2500km) and it took 3 tanks - 1st fill up was 750km, 2nd was 820km and 3rd was 780km.. This was sitting at 110km/hr most of the way however rain slowed me down to 50km/hr for about 3 hours on friday nite. '96 TE manual magna - no engine mods..

2.0 Litre?

Hey, I'm new to Magnas. I've gotta get my head around them yet lol.

I thought it was 2.0 litre engine.

3.0L TF Magna

Petrol I'm getting around 450 -500 city, 600-650 Highway
LPG 350 - 450 city, 550 - 650 highway

Not bad with 245000 on the clock..

Hey, I'm new to Magnas. I've gotta get my head around them yet lol.

I thought it was 2.0 litre engine.

Nope, 3.0 or 3.5 V6 and there are also some 2.4L 4 bangers.

Anyway:
Stock 2003 KJ GTVi, getting anywhere between 500Kms around town to 750 on the highway.

HI All,

I have a heavy foot so -

City driving - 450-500 stretching it

Highway - around 550 max

I have a 03 TJ Advance - Full 2.5inch Mandril bent exhaust system - high flow cat, and cannon

at the moment my vrx is getting 10.5l/100 city driving

Nope, 3.0 or 3.5 V6 and there are also some 2.4L 4 bangers.



Yep, 3.0 litre, 24 valve.

Dunno where I got 2.0 litre from lol

KH Verada 3.5, 170000km

City driving 12 - 13L / 100k
Highway 9 - 11L / 100k (130km limit in Northern Territory, usually sit on closer to 140km though)

filled up the wagon last night... 580km out of 64L or 11L/100km. hopefully after I service it the consumption will go down a bit.

cheers,
.wook

Im getting 350km to a tank (96 TE 3L auto) with standard unleaded if Im lucky.

Im getting 350km to a tank (96 TE 3L auto) with standard unleaded if Im lucky.
Shit man, there is something seriously up there!
Every 3.5 ive had, 1 manual and two autos, 4/5spds have gotten more than that! Even on hard foot down runs......
Tried something as simple as running a good injector cleanor into it?
Reset the ECU?
Air filter isnt filthy is it? Fuel filter need changing? Any idea when the plugs were done?

This was me on Wednesday

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp247/kiwilad66/Nogas.jpg

She needed 58.78 litres. Had done a bit of a highway run though, 270km's down to Geelong and back. Filled it with 98 to see if there would be any difference and she is just under half full with 380kms on the trip meter. But it's been a different last couple of days to usual, lot of highway driving. I'll drop more 98 in over the next 2-3 fills to see if there is a true difference.

Long term average over last 90 tankfulls is 10.390l/100km's.

Regards, Tony

I'll drop more 98 in over the next 2-3 fills to see if there is a true difference.

Long standing opinion says no.
I also did dyno testing on Ultimate 98 with octane booster versus standard 91, absolutely no difference. :)

back then i had a stock TJ 3.5 and used to get 300 km's on gas. drove her pretty hard. But hey if i wanted to save money on fuel i would have bought a bloody barina!

Always thought the tank in these(3rd gens) were 71 litres?

You get around the same as me on a empty fill of about 57-60 litres, this is normally when the light comes on in the GTV.
So this would give about 10litres or so of useable fuel before bone dry. So 600klms(going on your odo) with roughly a hundred or so to go(10l/100klms) before stall, is awesome yeah?

Im averaging around 10.3 in the 3.5 GTV. This has been with the climate on auto @ 20oC with a few days on flatout. And im far from a conservative driver...... This includes two trips to NSW on the hume on around 115km/h loaded with 3 kids, 2 adults, luggage etc.
Shits on any falcon or commy ive had or been in.

This was me on Wednesday

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp247/kiwilad66/Nogas.jpg

She needed 58.78 litres. Had done a bit of a highway run though, 270km's down to Geelong and back. Filled it with 98 to see if there would be any difference and she is just under half full with 380kms on the trip meter. But it's been a different last couple of days to usual, lot of highway driving. I'll drop more 98 in over the next 2-3 fills to see if there is a true difference.

Long term average over last 90 tankfulls is 10.390l/100km's.

Regards, Tony

Theres an invisiible notch there :) I've had mine lots lower... Tank takes 71L on FWD's.

Shit man, there is something seriously up there!
Every 3.5 ive had, 1 manual and two autos, 4/5spds have gotten more than that! Even on hard foot down runs......
Tried something as simple as running a good injector cleanor into it?
Reset the ECU?
Air filter isnt filthy is it? Fuel filter need changing? Any idea when the plugs were done?

Not much of that means a lot to me (I know computers, not card =P)

Looking over service history since I bought it (year ago) Ive had the air filters replaced bout 4 months ago and some oil filters/flush done?

Its due to go in in Feb, what should I be asking the guy to do?

Not much of that means a lot to me (I know computers, not card =P)

Looking over service history since I bought it (year ago) Ive had the air filters replaced bout 4 months ago and some oil filters/flush done?

Its due to go in in Feb, what should I be asking the guy to do?
Depends a lot on how many klms the car has travelled etc.

Current odo is like...140k?

My driving is usually to and from work which is about 2km each way with like 3 sets of traffic lights?

Current odo is like...140k?

My driving is usually to and from work which is about 2km each way with like 3 sets of traffic lights?

Well that's why. 2km round trip. The engine doesn't even get a chance to warm up and the fuel mixture is probably rich as hell for the whole drive.

Well that's why. 2km round trip. The engine doesn't even get a chance to warm up and the fuel mixture is probably rich as hell for the whole drive.

Exactly, not as bad on mine. But if i drive predominantly suburbs, or lots of traffic lights then the fuel consumption will be crap.

Currently getting about 700km to a tank at the moment, with about 75% hwy ks.

got my trip computer reading 9.0L/100km :D mostly free flowing driving with not many moments at lights... but have been with varying speeds