I went to visit her at the workshop this morning and the engine is all in, new drive shafts, power steering hose, engine mounts, timing belts, and the wiring is now 50% complete. A hole was drilled into the firewall to fit the ecu.
The readings on the old dash cluster were inacurrate so a new cluster was sourced from yahoo auctions. the new cluster is from a 24V sigma in japan although it's display is in miles not kilometers. I'm guessing that this cluster was originally from a European sigma and the owner of the Japaneses sigma had sourced this from the uk as a replacement over the standard japanese 180km/h cluster.
It'll take some getting used to but it does show the kilometer readings in the inner circle so that'll help out a lot.
If all goes to plan it should be up and running by late next week.

Big thanks to chuck, aj (gotrice), paula ([tufftr]), lucy (lucifer) and paul (VR-04-TT/killbilly) for helping out with all the useful info and advice and always answering my questions.
And DAN! (trotty) You're a legend mate thank you so much for doing the high flow extractors and travelling from penrith to the workshop in strathfield just to do the measuring and fitting of the pipes. Also appreciate how you always keep me updated with the progress of the extractors too! Thanks guys you rock! If anyone needs pipework done... dan is the MAN!

Finally got my hands on a digital camera so here are some shots so far...

loking good

is your car 4wd? or am i seeing things on that badge in the 1st pic?

you couldnt squeeze the twin turbos in? damn that'd be insane :P

you couldnt squeeze the twin turbos in? damn that'd be insane :P
oh i have something planned for it for next april don't you worry :D

Hey mate.... hows things?

Lookin good. It's all up to me now eh?

Will have some time Mon/Tue to try and finnish.
Do you know if the boys will let me use a hoist in the workshop?
If not im gunna have to bring some big stands to get under the car..... Doh

Oh and can you forget about the air con? do you really need it? will make my pipes so much easier to make!

na don't need the air con for now i'll get you to do in late december if you're free

they told me this morning that they'll hoist it up once the wiring is finished which should be by monday afternoon/tuesday morning so once the car get's started they'll get it up
yeah they'll let you use it they seemed happy that you were doing the extractor work
give them a ring first just to make sure but i'm sure they won't have a problem with that hehe :)

looks good dim, i can't wait to find a gto motor form mine one day

cool, with the pipes bud, i can run the pipes alot easier if you remove the air con, but this will mean that you wont be able to put it back on EVER in the future because the pipe will be in the way. ???

It just robs you of HP anyways!:badgrin: HAHA

OH perry... i got some spare flanges.... HAHAHA

na i need the air con LOL can't completely remove it because i want to fix up the air con for later... although i'd like to make your job easier but i'm sorry to say i like my climate control thank you very much :P

No probs.... will have to put another couple of bends in.....

Oh and OMG its tight the rear bank.! got some work ahead of me....:doubt:

LOL yeah the old fella mentioned that to me then he said the extractor fellow is very good he was measuring up everything for ya the other day and i said yeah he lives up past penrith and he goes oh bless him coming all the way down to do the job lol

the other young dude said the white magna owned by the extractors fellow sounded like a fighter jet LOL i said yeah it's got an rb26 in there and he goes YEAH? and i go na just jokes

LOL yeah the old fella mentioned that to me then he said the extractor fellow is very good he was measuring up everything for ya the other day and i said yeah he lives up past penrith and he goes oh bless him coming all the way down to do the job lol

the other young dude said the white magna owned by the extractors fellow sounded like a fighter jet LOL i said yeah it's got an rb26 in there and he goes YEAH? and i go na just jokes


Rb30tt... dimi i thought i told you.... HAHA

Yeah i'm nearly finnished my exhaust on my car. just have to put the new cat in, meow!
wish i could record it for everyone....does sound mean. people ask if it's a V8, i say Nah, just a V8 eater!:bowrofl:

good ****.

Wait till you hear it start...

PS you guys should look in a TT gto for the definition of tight. I want dual exhausts.

**** yeah Dimi, this is some great stuff to see! :D

Just as im uploading pics of my 3.5L (Thread coming :D) i see this, such a copycat dimi!
On your engine was most of the wiring cut short?

And trotty, do you still have the flanges? Might need a set for mine.
P.S Dimi you might get some ideas for your engine when i post my thread up:D

Better post the same in both threads... (no favoritism lol)

dimi108 & TUFFTR,
Replacement engines look hot!!!
Even though I've moved on from the 2nd gen now, this engine mod is still (and I guess always will be) one mod I wish I'd done to the wagon.

yeah can't wait aj to hear it start up
i can only imagine and listen to 3000gt's on youtube for now hehe
i reckon i'll melt once i hear it start up
ahh memories of the first time i turned the key in the supra :)

paula have you got your engine in the car yet?
will my timing covers fit on your engine? if they do i'll give them to you after autosalon
don't need them

This sounds like a great plan man. Good luck with it all!!!

Well Done mate looks great.. Ive done an efi conversion and now a manual conversion...

My last project will eventually be a engine conversion......

Yeh...

Dimi im not 100% sure.
Im going to take mine into a wrecker next week and match them up some some 3L DOHC engine covers there. If the price is right though ill just get them from the wrecker. i couldnt see these things being too expensive.
And nah, not in yet, your almost is, and i am very envious! (Better be putting that Eaton m90 onto it at some stage :D)

the world of 2nd gens will never be the same after u 2! good work to ya both :) props :)

awesome dimi, hope its all 100% and running for autosalon.

and please put the verada front end back on, looks way tougher than the diamante one thats on there now.

awesome dimi, hope its all 100% and running for autosalon.

and please put the verada front end back on, looks way tougher than the diamante one thats on there now.

Its all about uniqueness bro!
Everyone has the parras in AUS, but its very rare you see the series 1 diamante chrome grilles making the rounds. makes it just a tad more special

']Its all about uniqueness bro!
Everyone has the parras in AUS, but its very rare you see the series 1 diamante chrome grilles making the rounds. makes it just a tad more special
im just bias as i loved the look of my old 2nd gen with the verada front

is your car 4wd? or am i seeing things on that badge in the 1st pic?



is it? the badge says so! so it must be and with this new motor and a manual box pwoarrrr! lol

gunna shoot dimi down... No 4WD..... i had to look for myself. bit dissapointed.:rant:

We wil have to do somthing about that eh dimi? Evo box, LSD rear end....:badgrin:

Hey Dimi, could have at least spruced up the engine before putting it in! :D

looking great man! thats going to be one tough 2nd gen

youve always had a great lookin car. now its gonna have even more balls to back it up!

nice work and top effort

G

haha ah i had no time for that... thought i'd get the engine in and do the sprucing later lol

thanks guys for the comments and advice :thumbsup:
after this it'll be 5 speed manual conversion early next year

haha ah i had no time for that... thought i'd get the engine in and do the sprucing later lol

thanks guys for the comments and advice :thumbsup:
after this it'll be 5 speed manual conversion early next year

Talk about doing it the hard way!

shes lookin hot dimi, no SC tho? whats the dealio with that? top effort tho! :cool:

hey fellas i need the wiring harness for the coil pack and the gearbox
any idea where i can get this and how much it is? :rant:
can one be used from a different mitsu?

Hey bud... Well i got the pipes done. Nothin flash but will get you on the road.
Cant believe that i couldn't use the hoist... It made my life SOOOOOOOOOOO HARD!

Forgot pics. Diddn't pic the gasket up, but it should be ok. I put the rear gasket in that i had. Had a few dramas with the original manifold hitting on the rear engine mount but was easily fixed. Had to sort out what manifold worked best on what side as one fitted both sides and the other only fitted the front bank. Now i'm not 100% that the rear pipe wont hit on the cross member when givin it curry. Wont damage anything, its got clearance but i dont know how far the motor torques back. So you might get a knock/bang when launchin hard, but i doubt it. Just don't freek out. The Oxygen sensor is all in and plugged up.

Dont know what to tell you about the wiring harness. Diddn't look like much had been done.
just all hanging out the side of the engine bay. some things were hooked up, but majority out the sides. Looks like alot of excessive wiring to me, needs to be shortened.


Well give me a buzz when ur ready.... Cheers! DAN

haha no worries man thanks for all the hassle aye :) :) :)
as long as i get it on the road and it hasn't robbed me of any power then it's all good

can i take the gasket to midas and get them to slip it in for me?
do i really need the gasket in? what'll happen seeing that it's not in?

yeah getting the wiring from the half cut delivered tomorrow
so hopefully it'll be all wired up by friday or saturday :pray:

You may get a bit more noise under the bonnet through gasses leaking. but yeah the boys should be able to fit the gasket, not rocket science.... haha
Oh No loss of power, still better than your old T intersection collectors.... Nice Y join

didnt u have a v6 supercharger on there before this ??

He did indeed, never saw it though....:doubt:

He did indeed, never saw it though....:doubt: so if there is twin turbo's going on there y not throw on the old s/c aswell :badgrin:

so if there is twin turbo's on there y not throw on the old s/c aswell :badgrin:
This is an N/A Motor man:P

This motor makes nearly as much HP as the old one with no turbo's.... May come later....:badgrin: I hope you do dimi!

i sold the supercharger a while ago $600 to dave
yep it's an n/a motor but i've got quite a few bits and pieces that i'll add on before or after autosalon to bump up the kw's
after all i can't let paula take the "toughest 2nd gen" title that easily can i lol :P

cheers dan hopefully it'll be all sweet
i'll take the gasket to them and see what they can do
what's with the "leaking gasses"? is that bad dun want the car to smell or sound like a tractor haha

don't worry about it, it will be all sweet when the boys put the gasket in.... HAHA it wont smell or sound like a tractor. :bowrofl:

Dimi, if your ordering any bolt on parts, Let me know mk?

ya will do no probs :)
thanks dan hopefully have it all up and running within the next few days :pray:

got the electrical stuff delivered this morning
harness etc.
hope it's all that's needed now

Any updates Dimi? Keen to know how it's all coming together :)

its gotta be close, AS is only 2 weeks away!

thanks for asking fellas
wiring should be all completed and ready to go this week
need to get the rear bar resprayed after the wiring is done then she's all set to go

god this wiring problem is a stresser
and the auto elec isn't being much of a help either
acting all annoyed
and i'm the one paying him $1640 for the wiring :doubt:
i'm gonna call him every day this week twice a day and hassle him to the bone
i need this car fixed and i'm certainly not willing to tow the car as a half-completed-engine-conversion attempt into the show either :rant:

Hope there is better news tommorrow... Maybe he grows a brain overnight!!!:bowrofl:
Sorry dimi, not @ U.
I'm sure you will have the car out by tuesday....

thanks dan hehe i hope so! then i can come see you

thanks dan hehe i hope so! then i can come see you
**** Dan come see me!!!:bowrofl: (jokes dan we can share)

thanks for asking fellas
wiring should be all completed and ready to go this week
need to get the rear bar resprayed after the wiring is done then she's all set to go

god this wiring problem is a stresser
and the auto elec isn't being much of a help either
acting all annoyed
and i'm the one paying him $1640 for the wiring :doubt:
i'm gonna call him every day this week twice a day and hassle him to the bone
i need this car fixed and i'm certainly not willing to tow the car as a half-completed-engine-conversion attempt into the show either :rant:

dude thats more than 3 x what i paid. Mightve been an idea to call my auto elec... which the ecu install workshop got in. what did he have so much trouble with?

he had problems with the harness!
i'm looking for any auto electrician in sydney who can do the job for me this week
i need the car this week or i'll have to tow it to autosalon
pissing me off cos he's putting my car off because he's piled up with work at his workshop

he said he has to drill a hole into the firewall for the wiring and the ECU
i don't care what's involved i just want him to do it :(

he should be able to go through a gromet that this all ready there

he had problems with the harness!
i'm looking for any auto electrician in sydney who can do the job for me this week
i need the car this week or i'll have to tow it to autosalon
pissing me off cos he's putting my car off because he's piled up with work at his workshop

he said he has to drill a hole into the firewall for the wiring and the ECU
i don't care what's involved i just want him to do it :(
What a dead ****.

I hope you get this sorted pronto dude, this guy sounds like an inexperienced twat.

Drill a hole in the firewall... Pfft that's what, a 20 second job?

Punch that prick for me Dimi.

:rant:

What a dead ****.

Punch that prick for me Dimi.

:rant:


Put me down for two......!:rant: :nutkick: :sook: :gtfo:

Noooooooooooooooo not the faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace.


Well.. Dimi... Sorry to say but since you have a 24v.. screw you!

Naaaaah, tell him to get stuffed and take your car elsewhere and don't pay him, after all he didn't complete the job.

I guess this is a reason for all you kids, agree on a TIME FRAME otherwise they can put it to the back of the shop and tell you whatever they want.

Dimi, Just rang up a performance shop here and they qouted me min $600 to wire in a new ECU.
You could got a fully programmable one and had it put in for $1600

']Dimi, Just rang up a performance shop here and they qouted me min $600 to wire in a new ECU.
You could got a fully programmable one and had it put in for $1600


still need to run the sohc wiring to the alternator etc

What a dead ****.

I hope you get this sorted pronto dude, this guy sounds like an inexperienced twat.

Drill a hole in the firewall... Pfft that's what, a 20 second job?

Punch that prick for me Dimi.

:rant:
the force is strong with this one

so hows it comming along Dim any progress??:D

haha yeah tell me about it aye boys
piss me off
i went in to get the harness off him yesterday and he looked upset/pissed off when i came in and asked him to give me the harness
then he gave it to me and said good luck
then i just laughed and went
ass raper i swear made me stress out to the limit

haha hey perry yeah i've had the car towed to pulse racing in menai so it's sitting there with aza's fto
they'll start work tomorrow :)
knew my auto elec was slacking off about the wiring so i pulled the car straight outta there
can't be wasting anymore time with autosalon just around the corner i want the car to be driveable!
on saturday off to take my back bar to the spray shop then she'll be ready by mid next week
fingers scrossed lol

thanks for asking!

thanks guys for all the advice and support btw much appreciated!
p.s yep nick the new workshop agreed on wednesday the 28th november deadline
so i'm hoping all will go smoothly :pray:

no worries mate, glad to see its comming along well, ill be doing the same thing in the near future :D

tough luck but good to hear you bailed out dimi.

What did you end up paying the auto elec?

He should really do his job better, not your fault he's can't do a job he says he can.

tough luck but good to hear you bailed out dimi.

What did you end up paying the auto elec?

He should really do his job better, not your fault he's can't do a job he says he can.

Yeah. Burn his **** down.

hahaha thanks guys na i didn't pay him shiet! i just took my harness and went
he looked cheesed off to the max when i came to get the harness
should've farted on his head :sook:

i wouldn't mind at all paying him the $1640 if he had done the job last week and finished it but no way i'm paying that much if he's just gonna be chilling and not fixing the car up for me when he said he'd do it a week ago

his plan backfired because he was trying to get me to get a haltech ecu so it's easier for him to install he reckons then i said no i've already got an ecu i just want it wired up and he did this big sigh over the phone and sounded heart broken and said okay then...
THEN 48 hours later he calls me to tell me it would be close to the $2000 mark for the wiring (i'm guessing he thought i would've just said OH i'm gonna get the haltech then) but i said okay dats fantastic just fix it for me then he did another sigh on the phone wtf
guess that's why he just couldn't be eff'd doing it for me and let the car sit there and chill with the c0ckroaches

it's a shame because he is a reputable auto electrician too
bit disappointing but ah well :boohoo:

hahaha thanks guys na i didn't pay him shiet! i just took my harness and went
he looked cheesed off to the max when i came to get the harness
should've farted on his head :sook:

i wouldn't mind at all paying him the $1640 if he had done the job last week and finished it but no way i'm paying that much if he's just gonna be chilling and not fixing the car up for me when he said he'd do it a week ago

his plan backfired because he was trying to get me to get a haltech ecu so it's easier for him to install he reckons then i said no i've already got an ecu i just want it wired up and he did this big sigh over the phone and sounded heart broken and said okay then...
THEN 48 hours later he calls me to tell me it would be close to the $2000 mark for the wiring (i'm guessing he thought i would've just said OH i'm gonna get the haltech then) but i said okay dats fantastic just fix it for me then he did another sigh on the phone wtf
guess that's why he just couldn't be eff'd doing it for me and let the car sit there and chill with the c0ckroaches

it's a shame because he is a reputable auto electrician too
bit disappointing but ah well :boohoo:

People these days are lazy pricks. Like damn, 2k and he still didnt wanna do it. They want to get money for doing **** all.

A while ago i asked this guy to make some turbo manifolds for the VN and he said "it would cost a couple grand" and i said "yeah sure ill pay that"

He then started saying " its not worth it blah blah blah" wtf is wrong with people ?

People these days are lazy pricks. Like damn, 2k and he still didnt wanna do it. They want to get money for doing **** all.

A while ago i asked this guy to make some turbo manifolds for the VN and he said "it would cost a couple grand" and i said "yeah sure ill pay that"

He then started saying " its not worth it blah blah blah" wtf is wrong with people ?


Still want those manifolds done? I can help.:D

They don't really want the work. Either their lazy or have plenty of other work, so they quote a stupid price and reckon if the customer will pay the price then fine, if they go elsewhere then that's fine too.

So hard to find people that want to charge what a job is worth and offer good service as well.





He then started saying " its not worth it blah blah blah" wtf is wrong with people ?

After this is done dimi get an Interceptor:P

Still want those manifolds done? I can help.:D

That was yonks ago dont need it done anymore cause i dont have the VN. You can actually buy them from ebay for the v6 at a pretty good price these days.

Would be nice to get one made up for the TN one day :D

Whats the go Dimi.... Any progress?

Hope your not getting stuffed around with the new Auto Electrician.....
Here's some good thoughs for a speedy recovery....(The car that is):D

ah thanks dan! :)
should be picking up the car on wednesday or thursday this week
new workshop (pulse racing @ menai) will be starting work on it tomorrow and once the electrical is done they'll just need to put back the brakes, master cylinder etc. and also put in an alternator belt, coolant reservoir, radiator hose and the pin that holds the alternator and it'll be ready to roll!

I think i'm as keen as you man..... Can't wait!!

I want to finnish this exhaust....

I may be doing a full stainless set for a 350 chev racing ski boat! Gunna be nice!
show you some pics if it happens!

jesus christ 350 chev ski boat
hahaha yep you must be keen to see how your piping work is going to be after it's on the road :D
with the rest of the extractor work, how long will that take do you reckon? few days?
if i leave the car with you, you're dropping me to the station! hehe

No probs dude.. ill drive from penrith to concord to DROP you at the station... HAHA

have you got a push bike?:bowrofl:

yeah two days should be enough, will work that out later down the track!
Just get it goin first! damn you!:rant:

gonna have to get a manual conversion done as my automatic gearbox doesn't match up with this engine (as the workshop explained to me)
anybody know how much this will set me back for a manual box and clutch etc?

gonna have to get a manual conversion done as my automatic gearbox doesn't match up with this engine (as the workshop explained to me)
anybody know how much this will set me back for a manual box and clutch etc?

Umm....
your kidding me right?
Its pretty much the same block...
Howcome Chucks works?
bnw answer your phone next time asshat:P

sorry was at work! lol
nope they said it's physically impossible to run my automatic with the dohc they have tried everything today
i'll need to source a manual box for conversion as the v6 automatic doesn't pair with the twin cam engine
so the only way to salvage this is by doing a manual conversion and using an aftermarket computer
first things first, anybody know which aftermarket computer i'll need in this thing? forgive my n00bness
oh and the price range on a manual conversion?

sorry was at work! lol
nope they said it's physically impossible to run my automatic with the dohc they have tried everything today
i'll need to source a manual box for conversion as the v6 automatic doesn't pair with the twin cam engine
so the only way to salvage this is by doing a manual conversion and using an aftermarket computer
first things first, anybody know which aftermarket computer i'll need in this thing? forgive my n00bness
oh and the price range on a manual conversion?

OMFG
MAN TOLD YOU NOT TO USE THE STANDARD ECU!!!!
I reckon thats bull**** man.
The engine itself is the same length, only the heads are bigger.
If the 3L SOHC block uses both an auto and manual. why will one bolt up and the other not?

What a load of rubbish Dimi, there is no way to do this when you clearly do not know what you are doing.

KB had the standard factory ECU for the DOHC with a manual.

The TCU is independant to the ECU in so far as it is a seperate unit, the ECU will send and receive signals to the TCU thus the trans runs, things like the Revs, Speed etc.

If they can not figure out the basics to get the trans to run then they need to learn some basics about reading wiring diagrams.

he told me because the SOHC is running a distributer and the twin cam engine doesn't have a distributer it won't work out
he said the automatic transmission in the car will not work with the twin cam here
i'm super confused but i do believe him as they have spent the whole day trying to sort everything out for me :confused:
they are a reputable workshop too so they don't try and pull dodgies
i told him if i source a manual gearbox will this work out and he said yes but with the auto it will physically not work :shock:

he told me because the SOHC is running a distributer and the twin cam engine doesn't have a distributer it won't work out
he said the automatic transmission in the car will not work with the twin cam here
i'm super confused but i do believe him as they have spent the whole day trying to sort everything out for me :confused:
they are a reputable workshop too so they don't try and pull dodgies
i told him if i source a manual gearbox will this work out and he said yes but with the auto it will physically not work :shock:

Ask them how do they come out standard overseas with it?
And you have the ECU from the 3L DOHC anyway so whats the trouble with hooking it up...
these guys sounds like nongs!

thanks mal
i don't see what he was trying to say
so my v6 automatic gearbox would work with the DOHC right?
i've got the stock GTO 94 ECU
plus the gto harness inclusing fuse box

he emphasized on the v6 gearbox not matching the harness from the GTO so the sensors for the tranny won't be able to read the load of the engine in order to change up or down

he sounded serious about it and we spoke on the phone for 25 minutes he was just explaining it all
but yeah basically my v6 automatic gearbox doesn't match the GTO wiring harness at all
thus he came to the conclusion that the twin cam engine will not work with the automatic gearbox... hmmm
looking for a solution
do i really have to source a manual gearbox or is there hope for the v6 automatic? :doubt:

All he would have to do is wire it up?:S

that's what i was thinking
for months i researched and annoyed chuck, aj and kb about what i need and what will work
and now this bloke says it wont
so it's kinda confusing!

i mean, the engine is done it's sitting in there
the headers are done
everything is fit snug
it's just the wiring that needs to be complete and i have the gto harness as well
so what's happened is he reckons the GTO harness will not hook up to the gearbox... now not knowing much about the electrics, doesn't he just have to wire it all up? make his own wires if he needs to? sheesh

Gee's dimi... i feel for you bud.
I wish i could help too, but i know no1 that can help...

Thiis is a sad day.:cry:

I guess autosalon is out?:doubt:

Well i guess when it's finnished it's gunna be eveything you wanted as a finnished car...

Now lets talk TURBO's!!!! HAHA there could be a bright side if you wait long enough...

thanks mal
i don't see what he was trying to say
so my v6 automatic gearbox would work with the DOHC right?
i've got the stock GTO 94 ECU
plus the gto harness inclusing fuse box

he emphasized on the v6 gearbox not matching the harness from the GTO so the sensors for the tranny won't be able to read the load of the engine in order to change up or down

he sounded serious about it and we spoke on the phone for 25 minutes he was just explaining it all
but yeah basically my v6 automatic gearbox doesn't match the GTO wiring harness at all
thus he came to the conclusion that the twin cam engine will not work with the automatic gearbox... hmmm
looking for a solution
do i really have to source a manual gearbox or is there hope for the v6 automatic? :doubt:
If the box bolts up to the block, then wiring is much easier than trying to adapt a ****ing gearbox to a motor. What a load of ****, he can adapt your SOHC harness to the auto gearbox, wtf.

no this is going to be towed to autosalon can't let the team down by being absent
i'll tow it on staging night!

just trying to brainstorm some ideas! just a minor hicup it should be all good
i believe they may have just gave up because the job is quite fiddly
especially their workshop being packed out and busy, spending time on my car won't do good for their budget and will make their customers angry because of the extra wait that will be forced onto their cars because of mine :think:

reckon it's worth taking it to a different auto electrician?
like mentioned before, the said that the harness i took out of the GTO isn't compatible with my automatic gearbox....
is that believable?

It may have different connectors but i dont see the switches doing anything different to any other box...

But cant they use the original tcu and wiring and adapt that to the GTO harness?

HMM :think:
that's something i'll ask them tomorrow!
the most thing he was concerned about was not the gearbox not being compatible...
he said it will run on limp mode because the sensors are different on the GTO automatic transmission

btw, much appreciate the replies and help guys!

what about an interceptor that takes info from the motor and converts it so the box can understand?

Caution,... I may have just invented this contraption. I'm sure its just some resistors or somthing..??? any ideas any1?

Does the box not only take a couple of things fron the motor, ie throttle position and vacuum?

3 Questions to anybody that knows...
1; what does the transmission need to run? I.e Sensor voltages, how many sensors? Simple On/Off operation?
2; in what format is the GTO motor sending these signals?
3; Can these be adapted? via added appropriate sender's/trigger switches....

Just brainstorming? I'm no auto electrician......

Yo Dimi

The only thing that would be different is that you have the loom from the jdm gto which uses the w4a33 transmission, and your verada uses the f4a33 transmission.

Even with this being the case, he should still be able to wire it up somehow with a bit of problem solving. The w4a33 and the f4a33 are pretty much the same thing apart from the w4a33 being awd and the f4a33 being fwd. Just take a look at this pdf. http://p96.us/2/autotran.pdf

oh sweet thanks man i think that's what's happened there
because i've got the jap loom

you reckon there's a way to work around this?

oh sweet thanks man i think that's what's happened there
because i've got the jap loom

you reckon there's a way to work around this?

Yeah. Tell them to wire the prick in.

See i knew there would be a way....lol

there should be a way. they just gotta stop bein such lazy ****s.

bastards
i'll call them tomorrow morning first thing and lay the smack down

bastards
i'll call them tomorrow morning first thing and lay the smack down
:bowrofl:
I really do feel sorry for you having to go through with this BS.
Should of got something like an adaptronic and got them to wire that in.

hey what's adaptronic man?

hey what's adaptronic man?
Word.

It's a replacement ECU.

**** this ****.

Im not sure about the auto but you should've probably got whoever put chucks in to do it again.

They need to run some custom wiring (or use part of the sohc loom) from the auto to the TCU Then they need some custom wiring from selected pins in the DOHC ecu to the TCU to give rpm and throttle position etc... ie thats what you're hiring them for the run the custom wiring by the sounds they thought you were asking them to plug some **** in and thats it :s

I couldnt do it but someone who works in auto electrics definitely should be able to.

hey fellas i'm looking at going for a halthech E8
also had a word this morning and what's happened is that he explained that the factory triggers on the gearbox don't pair up with the GTO ECU
he said purchasing an aftermarket ecu won't solve the problem as "an aftermarket ecu needs to be run with the original ecu - and the gto ecu you have doesn't pair with your automatic gearbox" :think:

should i take it to a different place?

i would as chuck said it should work, try rining around some other places

cools will do :D

Is the E8 a standalone ECU, or a piggyback?

Sounds like this guy need his own transplant.... like a brain....

Take it to another place, everything is possible.

he said purchasing an aftermarket ecu won't solve the problem as "an aftermarket ecu needs to be run with the original ecu - and the gto ecu you have doesn't pair with your automatic gearbox"


In that case you'd use your sohc ecu. Thats how mines set up.

Is the E8 a standalone ECU, or a piggyback?
Standalone, Interceptor is a piggyback

Won't pair? What does your sparky think this is, bluetooth? :nuts:

']Standalone, Interceptor is a piggyback

So if it is a stand alone ecu, then why does it need the original one? I thought that was the whole point in the "standalone" part?

So if it is a stand alone ecu, then why does it need the original one? I thought that was the whole point in the "standalone" part?

do the original ecus still run the speedo/tacho/tcu etc etc. Like a piggy back but it completely takes over the fuel ignition and whatever else the given ecu features are.

']:bowrofl:
I really do feel sorry for you having to go through with this BS.
Should of got something like an adaptronic and got them to wire that in.

That'd be right. Tell tuffy one thing and he goes telling everyone they should have it. Adaptronic is an aus designed full replacement ecu. Turbo_bmw tunes them and is actually their webmaster too.

That'd be right. Tell tuffy one thing and he goes telling everyone they should have it. Adaptronic is an aus designed full replacement ecu. Turbo_bmw tunes them and is actually their webmaster too.
I'll be ordering one soon so shove it :P

']I'll be ordering one soon so shove it :P

Make sure you do up a sheet on of the pin-outs for others who want to do an adaptronic.

This is rubbish.....

the "sensors" on the trans will be compatible.

In short, the TCU will get a speed signal from the Speedo Speed generator on the back of the speedo, The ECU will send it a signal to state the engine rev and load, the TPS will tell it the TP etc etc.

In an old trans the load and the speed determined the gear by changing the direction of the fluid in the valve body with a governer.

In these trans, these are done electronically.

If he has even part of a brain, get him to get the diag from both, use your TCU to YOUR trans, the only thing he has to over come is the pulse from the ECU confusing the TCU, this can be done easily I am sure with a kit what will turn change the pulse.

At very worst, drive in limp mode to auto salon, you will be stuck in 3rd with reverse still usable. This will not stop the engine from starting.

From memory all trans signals are inputs not outputs.

If you go aftermarket this will not solve as you will still need manual, what about if it gets that bad, get a trans from an importer from a FWD GTO?

If you go aftermarket this will not solve as you will still need manual, what about if it gets that bad, get a trans from an importer from a FWD GTO?

The fwd gtos use the same tranmissions as our cars. So he wont need to import anything.

The fwd gtos use the same tranmissions as our cars. So he wont need to import anything.

Word. F5M3 or something similar.. Although the TS (i think?) V6 came with a different manual box sometimes and I cannot say what the 4cyl's got, shorter gearing for sure.

thanks mal you're a legend at least i've got that to back me up now if anyone else says it can't be done :D

Hows the progress on it now ey?

Dimi, any news???? mate, I could have walked to Sydney by now and had this thing running lol

is your car 4wd? or am i seeing things on that badge in the 1st pic?

I was just thinking that, is it 4wd? :S

I was just thinking that, is it 4wd? :S
Just a KS Verada...Not 4WD...
Y0 dimi check this out man
In the US AWD Stealth 3L using stock crank - 995AWHP
9.31 sec quarter
http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=401405
Theres a video in the 1st link. I still cant beileve they get that from a 3L!!

']Just a KS Verada...Not 4WD...
Y0 dimi check this out man
In the US AWD Stealth 3L using stock crank - 995AWHP
9.31 sec quarter
http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=401405
Theres a video in the 1st link. I still cant beileve they get that from a 3L!!

I see.


Props to the commitment dimi. Keep it going.

hurry up Dimi ill get you a clip as soon as someone with an apt video phone is in my car.

The sound will help you at least. My clutch is gammin. That is all.

thanks man
everything is wired up! woohoo!
thanks guys you were right the other mob who told me i needed a new tranny and computer were full of shiet

only thing now is, engine doesn't turn over when we try to start it because there's no igniter :rant:
stupid wreckers
so i gotta get one on monday
gonna call everywhere for one

thats sucks lots, all the best with finding one

well done dimi. cant wait to hear the good news :)

thanks guys hehe
hope it's not too hard to find one :doubt:

Igniter?
Coil packs from the US are only like $100 if thats what your after?:S

Tops..... When can you part with the beast for a couple of days?

or ya just wanna drive it till after the new year?
I might be able to get into the workshop over the holidays if that suits?

Dimi, also i want to know if i can get a copy of the wiring in those pictures (the 3.5L will be pretty much the same) and what did it cost in the end..

na the engine is ticking but it just wont create a spark for it to fire up
sparkie said i need an ignition module the engine didn't come with one at the wreckers :rant:

so i'm in search for one now
they are available at www.3sx.com for $180US but i'm hoping i can find something cheaper :doubt:
reckon if i call around some wreckers they'll be willing to part with one from one of their engines?

yeah i'll grab those off him then and post em out to you

']Dimi, also i want to know if i can get a copy of the wiring in those pictures (the 3.5L will be pretty much the same) and what did it cost in the end..

Well i think from memory, A kidney, right eye, left testicle and right leg to balance it all out....:badgrin:

or ya just wanna drive it till after the new year?
I might be able to get into the workshop over the holidays if that suits?
hey dan once i get the ignition module i'll be able to take it away
was going to pick it up tonight until we came across the missing igniter :tantrum:

so i hope i can have it working by mid next week!

Dimi man you might be in luck.
Might have a spare one of these :D
(Theres one on the engine which has been damaged but still looks salvagable, and also another spare one BUT its a different number)

Also dimi give EKW wreckers in east keilor a ring in VIC they have 5 of these engines just sitting there

hey dan once i get the ignition module i'll be able to take it away
was going to pick it up tonight until we came across the missing igniter :tantrum:

so i hope i can have it working by mid next week!


Sweeeeeeet!
:booty: to all those that doubted!!!! HAHA

hey paula that's sweet as
can i grab their number off ya?

LOL @ dan commentating :bowrofl:

East Keilor Wreckers Pty Ltd
2 - 12 Cain Ave Keilor East VIC 3033
ph: (03) 9274 4444

Top blokes there :D
If you ever need a replacement engine + transmission its only $500 away
btw they have AWD diamante transmissions aswell :shifty:

thanks bro
is that the bloke i spoke to who i was going to get to do the awd for me?

thanks bro
is that the bloke i spoke to who i was going to get to do the awd for me?
:s I dont know....was it:P
I know they have the AWD box dont think they have the AWD running gear.
If they had it i would sell a body part to get hold of it thats for sure

hey paula are they open tomorrow?
reckon they are willing to part with an ingiter and the sub harness from it?

hey paula are they open tomorrow?
reckon they are willing to part with an ingiter and the sub harness from it?

What do i look like an EKW rep? :P
Ring them and ask!!!

You sure are a patient guy lol. I hate it when fiddly things keep going wrong. How fast did it take the last auto lecs to wire up the tranny ?

paula you fag gimme some hope lol


You sure are a patient guy lol. I hate it when fiddly things keep going wrong. How fast did it take the last auto lecs to wire up the tranny ?

haha thanks man argh this is what happened the first auto elec took him 3 weeks to tell me i needed the GTO wiring harness then another 2 days later said he can't do it and completely gave up on it then towed it to another place took them 2 weeks to come to their conclusion that i needed a manual box and a new ecu
then i towed it to KB's guy and he's got everything working but now no ingiter!
sheeeesh this better be worth the wait LOL

haven't driven the car for 7 weeks now :(

paula you fag gimme some hope lol



haha thanks man argh this is what happened the first auto elec took him 3 weeks to tell me i needed the GTO wiring harness then another 2 days later said he can't do it and completely gave up on it then towed it to another place took them 2 weeks to come to their conclusion that i needed a manual box and a new ecu
then i towed it to KB's guy and he's got everything working but now no ingiter!
sheeeesh this better be worth the wait LOL

haven't driven the car for 7 weeks now :(
Join my world. Except to get mine working i need to replace a 4 cent piece of plastic in the brake booster line = gayness

your car doesn't work at the moment? naaaa you still got your old engine in there right?

your car doesn't work at the moment? naaaa you still got your old engine in there right?

lol yeah man 3.5L is on a stand till its 100% serviced and i have the $$$!!!
mech changed the cam seal which is good but in my ricer ways i was putting on a red hose kit and snapped off one of the lines *do'h* so car idles at like 100rpm without it fixed

one hundred RPM!? :neutral:
game ova
so you're not gonna drive your car till the new engine gets put it??

one hundred RPM!? :neutral:
game ova
so you're not gonna drive your car till the new engine gets put it??

nah lol on 12 hours a week so its coming to a small halt until i can find a job where everyone isnt a bunch of ****ing ****sucker mother****ers.
until then just waiting to get this brake crap sorted out then its cruise time.

sheeeesh this better be worth the wait LOL

haven't driven the car for 7 weeks now :(

dude when mine started i just turned to my housemate and said "****". They just sound so deep and ballsy. Then you give it a squirt and they scream up in the rev range. I still love the sound.

come on aj get that video soon! :pray:
g'ing me up bad

ima hunt this ingiter with sub harness down
luckily i'm on holidays at the moment so i can drive all over the place if i need to during the day
is this it on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160190255715&rd=1#ebayphotohosting)? but the auto elec said i need the plug that goes with it too
damn!

come on aj get that video soon! :pray:
g'ing me up bad

ima hunt this ingiter with sub harness down
luckily i'm on holidays at the moment so i can drive all over the place if i need to during the day
is this it on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160190255715&rd=1#ebayphotohosting)? but the auto elec said i need the plug that goes with it too
damn!

yeah thats the one
Plug too? should be one already attached to yours eh?

na bro i don't have one at all!!

na bro i don't have one at all!!

man ask on the diamante owners forum or 3si if anyone has one if not ill see if i still have mine MK!

come on aj get that video soon! :pray:
g'ing me up bad



PM me your number or msg us again. Gay phone

Will try get a mate to do it on our subway tea brake at cricket.

Also maybe try someone at mitsubishi in NZ. If you search these forums you'll find someone else has done it before.

alright thanks you two haha :D

PM me your number or msg us again. Gay phone

Will try get a mate to do it on our subway tea brake at cricket.

Also maybe try someone at mitsubishi in NZ. If you search these forums you'll find someone else has done it before.
u sell subway at cricket and u have a tea break ??? am i missing something

u sell subway at cricket and u have a tea break ??? am i missing something

Alot it seems

just spoke to east keilor wreckers
top bloke but some greedy bastad bought all 4 of his igniters off him WTF!
so he gave me the number of another wrecker and they ran out too
sheesh

the search continues lol

just spoke to east keilor wreckers
top bloke but some greedy bastad bought all 4 of his igniters off him WTF!
so he gave me the number of another wrecker and they ran out too
sheesh

the search continues lol
I'll ask JET-BLK what hes been buying from there:bowrofl:

KB said you've got a spare igniter... you still got it bro?

KB said you've got a spare igniter... you still got it bro?

I'll look today for you.
Like i said, he gave me one which is different to the J723T your after. But ill show you when i can mk

thanks man :D

Hey man i have both here ill PM you tomorrow with what they look like.
The J723T doesnt look in the best nick though

if you could that would be sweet man
thanks :)

does it look like this?

come on aj get that video soon! :pray:
g'ing me up bad


just uploaded from my mates nokia and then emailed to you fellas. Ill let you work it out. Slight uphill then down right at the end. It doesnt seem fast anymore.

If you could convert then youtube or something thatd be great

uploaded man :)
sounds very beastie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUmsQ5Wjhvs

noticed your tacho not working at all?

Dimi, when you get those diagrams can you get me a copy also, would be interested to see them.

Glad to know that I and others were right about the trans.

Dimi, when you get those diagrams can you get me a copy also, would be interested to see them.

Glad to know that I and others were right about the trans.
will do
is that okay if i photocopy them?

yeah spot on
thought i was a goner when those idiots told me i needed a manual gearbox and a new ecu as bare minimum

noticed your tacho not working at all?

thanks dude.

Hahah sounds good.

Yeah i dont know how the DOHC tacho reads the signal. Prolly off the crank angle sensor or such. Cbf'd hooking up one of the e6x outlets to it. Thatd be a pain anyway. Would like my tacho to work if you want to look into it.

uploaded man :)
sounds very beastie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUmsQ5Wjhvs

noticed your tacho not working at all?

Damn wanna check it out but i blew up my computer speakers so now i dont have sound :(

pretty sure that the Tach gets the pulse from the ECu and then converts this at the Tach end.....may be wrong though

Damn wanna check it out but i blew up my computer speakers so now i dont have sound :(
you dont own any earphones?

sounds good aj, is quick too

aj your car climbs up to 100 quite fast
can you actually feel g-force pull? :D

aj your car climbs up to 100 quite fast
can you actually feel g-force pull? :D

He feels the VTEC Pull but nothing else :P
Dimi is it working yet!

aj your car climbs up to 100 quite fast
can you actually feel g-force pull? :D

that was up a very slight hill till the about 90-100 so it felt slow. Yeah you feel it pull pretty well. Nice and torquey just keeps surging although i never do it 60 to 180 in 3rd is the best.

Nothing too extreme but just good. Itll be interesting to see how it goes after i get interior and system out of the way and make it go a bit harder.

Dimi whats the go! jo!:poke:

hey dan! got it started today with paula's igniter! all i'm saying is WOW!
the igniter was cracked so the actual unit got really hot and the engine died out after around 10 seconds
everything is in good order and my back up ignition module from the u.s will be here tomorrow so sparkie told me to bring that in and i'll have the car by saturday by the looks of it

wooooot :thumbsup:

p.s thanks paula for your igniter... lease we got to start it
even if it was only for 10 seconds LOL you rock

Well its saturday...

How did we go?
and what did you think of how it sounded when it started up?

thanks dude.

Hahah sounds good.

Yeah i dont know how the DOHC tacho reads the signal. Prolly off the crank angle sensor or such. Cbf'd hooking up one of the e6x outlets to it. Thatd be a pain anyway. Would like my tacho to work if you want to look into it.

i had a monster tacho that read off the negative of teh spark pack, and you just set teh back of it to 6 cyl or 4 cyl or 8 cyl, it worked real good, one wire to posi, one to earth, one to neg and one to the lights in the dash, MEANAGE

awesome thread mate, all the best with the car transplant hope it hammers

Hows things bud?

Got it runnin? (longer than 10 secs haha)

Will be a good Xmas pressent 4 ya eh!

holla!

Aye monga it's been a while! Thanks bro appreciate it :)
Had to order a new ECU is from united states as every wrecker i called in Aus couldn't help.
I paid express priority mail $70US from USPS and ECU is $175US so around $300AU all together.
Old ECU is what was causing the problems. Sparkie removed the housing of the ECU and there appeared to be a stain on the circuit board.
But all is put back now including radiator hose and brake booster etc.
After i recieve the ECU we'll just need to plug that in, put the glove box back in and it'll be okay to go.
Pitty couldn't have the car over the holiday season but it's all good. Will be worth the wait.
Engine sounds wicked. The tone is so much different to the SOHC! When the engine is idling and i'm looking at the car, the sound just doesn't match up. It's as if the sound is coming from a GTO parked behind it and my car is blocking the view.
Heaps excited though.
Just hope there won't be anymore hiccups.

Thanks for your interest guys! :D

Oh dimi, so no go over the holidays, no cruzin?

Just wait and see what it sounds like with the extractors!!!:badgrin:

dimi, when trotty does your extractors i think you should get him to throw on a new muffler because that pee shooter out the back doesnt do it justice! some nice twin 3 inch pipes would look the part im sure!

HAHAHA PEA SHOOTER ROFL
yeah true that
could you do that dan? put on a twin tip for us?
always wanted one so this would be a good time to do it

Sparkie removed the housing of the ECU and there appeared to be a stain on the circuit board.Sounds like the capacitors leaking electrolytic. Wonder if it's actually damaged the board, or whether replacing the caps can resuscitate it... Apparently it's a reasonably common problem with ECUs the age of ours, if possible best to replace the caps before the damage is done (not that I've replaced mine, but it was checked out a while ago...).

Hey rogue thanks for that info. Gives me more of un understanding now.
I guess replacing the entire unit with a new ECU would solve the problem right?
Like mentioned, the car only sparks for around 10-15 seconds and the igniter gets really hot.

Yeah man i vouch for twin 3"s
Will look sexy!
and get that lip painted!

haha cheers man i'll get it colour coded after all this

What do you want? A muffler with twin 3' round tips, straight cut? Fitted to the original exhaust?
Or you want a new system?

It can all be done.

muffler with twin 3" round twin tips will be good for now

Black or chrome with rolled lip?
or maybe...

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33454&d=1193311064

good stainless or chrome twin tips would look good don't you reckon?
just don't want it to stand out too much

look here....

http://www.planetmagnaflow.com/shop/5x8-Oval-Body-61.html

sweet as
this one looks good you think it'll fit or i'll have to cut some of the rear bar for the tips to not rub? seeing as they are both 3"

http://www.planetmagnaflow.com/shop/magnaflow-14815-423.html

sweet as
this one looks good you think it'll fit or i'll have to cut some of the rear bar for the tips to not rub? seeing as they are both 3"

http://www.planetmagnaflow.com/shop/magnaflow-14815-423.html


If you have a look at my tip the oval1 is nearly 6in across and it looks small. twin 3' should fit well.

Did you want to supply the muff, or you want me. I tell you what you get a price and i'll try and beat it! LOL!

If you have a look at my tip the oval1 is nearly 6in across and it looks small. twin 3' should fit well.

Did you want to supply the muff, or you want me. I tell you what you get a price and i'll try and beat it! LOL!

twin 3" tips on mine dimi fill the exhaust cut out perfectly.

if you dont mind me asking how much can you get a muffler with the twin tips for trotty? mines a cheap one and id love a magnaflow muffler...

but what im really posting for is... updates dimi.

twin 3" tips on mine dimi fill the exhaust cut out perfectly.

if you dont mind me asking how much can you get a muffler with the twin tips for trotty? mines a cheap one and id love a magnaflow muffler...

but what im really posting for is... updates dimi.

Will let you know next week, GT... Yeah dimi whats the go,.... bro!!! HAHAHA

Dude is this thing running yet or what?
I'm hoping to take mine in to get "started" in about a months time and yeah i dont wanna be waiting this long!

hahaha trust me you'll be waiting a bit unless you find yourself someone who know's their engine conversions, works fast, knows their wiring and is up for the job

the main reason why this conversion kept being stalled was the stuff around by the bad choice of mechanics i dealt with and the few parts i needed to order in like the igniter, harmonic balancer, wiring harness, hydraulic tensioner, ecu etc.
after keeping the car in his workshop for a week the first mechanic reckons couldn't fit the job into his schedule so it got taken to midas and after the engine was dropped in it was towed to a well known (yeah right) performance workshop here in sydney to do the wiring and transmission. they were the ones who told me that i needed a manual box and a aftermarket ecu or else it would simply not work :roll:
then i took it to kb's sparkie and he did a fantastic job on it - sorted out all the electrical. now it's back to midas and they are trying (they reckon) to get it up and running within the next few days.
i'll be checking up on it tomorrow morning at 7:00am and i'm going to get them to list to me what is left to be done and how long it will take so i can get a definite completion time instead of this "oh it'll be ready tomorrow, thursday, friday, next week, next month" business.
they had told me i would have the car up and running today 100%... but when i asked them about it they said "oh we didn't realise there is a lot more to do" pfft.. yeah right all they need to do is the radiator hose, then put back the master cylinder, brake booster and bleed the brakes. i told them don't worry about the center console and dash i will put that in just get the car running...

so yeah! be careful with who you deal with and allow at least a 2 weeks to a month for the conversion to be done (if you've got every single part needed, ready.)
but hey... i guess it'll be worth it :)

Man best of luck!
I'm hoping that cutting out the need for the ignitor and shiz and just running the fully independent ECU will minimise down time now and later.

Sounds like normal things have happened which will happen to anyone doing this kind of conversion, im hoping i'll have minimal down time by doing it right the first time.
For me all thats left is getting it dropped in, wired in, and tuned.

When you say "Trying" to get it up and running, what is the problem they are having with it now?

na no problem, just lack of interest in working on it i gathered
i called them 3 times today and pesterred them
first call i said any updates on the car? they said na there's still a lot to do and i was like what happened to the 100% it'll be ready? and he goes oh we didn't realise how much there was to be done which is bs then the big question came in and i said so is anyone actually working on it? and he goes na not at the moment but will be later this afternoon
and i said get it running by tomorrow (saturday) because i need to use the car to commute as there is no public transport at where my work is
they need to feel the pressure and get their asses moving

for those wondering so far the conversion has set me back just under $7000
and i'm using a stock 1997 3000GT (federal) ecu
an aftermarket one would've bumped up the cost a further $1500 or so...

some of you guys might think it's way too much money to be spending on the conversion but i think it'll be awesome in the end :)
it'll help a lot more if you know your stuff and if you can do some of the work yourself instead of having to rely on mechanics and workshops etc.

price list so far
front cut - $1500
wiring harness - $250
ecu - $380
engine and transmission wiring - $800
droping the engine in including all belts radiator, tune and labour - $2400
harmonic balancer - $110
hydraulic tensioner - $330
spark plugs - $120
drive shaft - $300
igniter - $100
premium motul oil - $100
extractors $900

7 grand???? **** man...thats too much! honestly...you're gonna be disappointed in what you got for your 7g's

don't be saying that shiet man!! hahaha
party pooper kent

na but with me i have to rely on workshops etc. and i had to buy a few parts for it too
that's why if you can do it a bit of it yourself it'll save you a lot of cash

how much did your conversion set you back?

im serious man....7 grand...you coulda bought a whole new car.....with 7 grand you shoulda at least had a 6g72 dohc tt!

im trying not to think about how much ive spent...ahahahah....dont forget how much i payed to get my aircon workin...especially with that ******** in lakemba ****in me up! ahahah

oh....and it woulda totalled you like 7750 by now cuz you had to buy that daewoo! aaahahhaha

TT for $7000? na i don't think so bro
the dude in the states spend $11000US for his stock TT conversion on the wagon
he's got the price list up on his cardomain site

how much did your conversion set you back?

11 grand? tell him to go **** himself....

Look at the guys with na 3000gt's.....they're tt'ing their cars for like 1000-3000...


not exactly sure man....maybe like 5 grand.....but thats with the big cost of getting my air con working...

you sure only $5000?! na you spent more i reckon

yeah this dude $11000US for the transplant
his car was in sports compact as well

nah man im pretty sure thats what ive spent on just getting the engine in and ****.....but i was patient with parts and getting ppl to do it....


looks like that guy got ripped off.....

p.s. what the **** are you doin at home? werent you supposed to go subbies with that chick and her friend?? aaaaaaaaaaaahahahaahah

hahaha na that's next friday bro
tonight i'm chillin i had some action last night so it's all good

yeah see you were patient
with me i just jumped into it and ordered parts all on express priority from us

even though i know the power figure won't be "out of this world" i think it'll be a good base to work on for now so i'll have a solid foundation to work from if i decide to go any further with the car

yeah...at least now if you wanna go tt, youre kinda half way there....just let me know if you want to and ill order the parts for both our cars together to get it cheaper! haha

you getting the parts from 3sx?

na but with the total cost don't forget i've spend nearly $700 on towing too hahaha so i shouldn't count that in the conversion
so let's just say under $6000 mark for me so far on the actual conversion

you getting the parts from 3sx?

na but with the total cost don't forget i've spend nearly $700 on towing too hahaha so i shouldn't count that in the conversion
so let's just say under $6000 mark for me so far on the actual conversion


nah man...****...gettin the parts from japan! ;)

plus the u.s version is lhd.....

Sweet holy jesus $7K :shock:
So far Dimi for me
Engine $1100
Freight for engine $380
New timing belt, tensioners, and water pump, like $200
Adj. Cam gears - $500
ECU $1100
Clutch - $300
Iridiums + 10mm leads - $150

So now imma just trying to get it dropped in DIY to save some $$$
then the rest goes on getting it hooked up.
GL dude.

I have found a 3LTT Font cut but they want $3K, i think especially in VIC where this kinda conversion is rare you'd be easily looking at over $7K

Hey dimi you forgot the exhaust fitup and modify..... Thats no bolt up jobbie HAHA

Hey tuffy.... you got somone to fit new extractors? Or you using original manifols and joining them up? You will have clearance issues with the rear cast manifold. A lug needs to be cut off to clear the rear engine mount and there was about 15mm from flange to rear crossmember.

Had alot of stufing around to clear the cross/m and join the 2 banks together.

Like i said to dimi there may be a knock when the motor torques backwards under load.

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but thats with the big cost of getting my air con working...

how much did that cost chuck??

My conversion was a similar price. Could've saved in being home when most of it was happening and not spending on towing and also getting my ecu through the same place to tune it.

i was hoping not much.

thanks paula hehe
yeah do the drop in yourself and you'll save at least a grand

oh yeah plus the extractors from dan
nearly forgot about that haha

checked up on it today
everything is hooked up now including the brakes etc. just needs the alternator bolt, need to fit the smaller belt for the alternator (i'll be running without the a/c compressor for now) and need to fasten the overfill tank but the engine bay is pretty cramped at the moment so hopefully they can manage to squeeze it in somewhere and that's about it.
started the car again, let it idle and gave it a few revs - it sounded awesome
it's got such a unique (and weird) engine note
very different to my supra and different to the rb but has this very distinguishable sound especially with that deep burble

workshop manager said it's 90% done just the small bits and pieces to make sure nothing goes wrong and i should be able to take it home by mid next week
the main issue at the moment is hoping that the smaller belt will work out without having to fit the a/c compressor as i don't have one.

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Have a drwing but cant resize small enough to load. it's 1.4mb bmp file, anyone know how to get this down to 64kb?

how much did that cost chuck??

My conversion was a similar price. Could've saved in being home when most of it was happening and not spending on towing and also getting my ecu through the same place to tune it.

i was hoping not much.

It was around 800....but that's my fault....it would have been much cheaper but i took it to some guy that did work "cheap" so i thought id save a few pennies, but he ended up ****ing up the wiring real bad....had to take it back to another shop that had to fix what the other guy ruined and make it work.

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Thankyou....

hey bloke, was just skimming through and saw a simple run down of costs.

what i was wondering is if you brought the front cut, how come the wiring wasnt included, for things like the gearbox? and such as mentioned you paid like 300 bucks extra? am i just interpretting it wrong?

I know how expensive these things can be, my brother had his galant converted to a 4g63T and that was around the 8thousand mark, but was like it came that way from the factory, aircon, oil coolers so on and so forth.

Interested to know asi have the money for the half cut plus 3 grand but i know i am able to do a lot of the fabrication myself and ive changed many a motor and gearbox, and looms. The hardest part about the conversion is finding another way for the missus to get around while the Rada is of the road, i hope anyways

Good luck champ

Lionel

hey lionel, this is my reply with a few tips - take a good 5 mins to have a read of it i hope it helps...
first off, before putting the car into the workshop i knew this would take a while to complete so i bought myself a cheap run around car for $600 with 3 months rego... not the flashiest of cars but it sure does the job.
it makes life easier commuting to and from the workshop, picking up parts from wreckers, transporting things etc.
something you should consider before getting started on your car.

the wiring harness and igniter wasn't included in my front cut as this had been removed by the wrecker and sold seperately to somebody else.
a good lesson from this is to know what should be in the front cut and not get too excited by just seeing the engine sitting on the shelf - always check that everything is in tact with your front cut.
you need to make sure the pulleys are in good shape - not chipped or cracked, the wiring is all there, igniter, loom, a/c compressor, coil pack etc.
wreckers and parts recyclers will always pick parts out of their half cuts and front cuts if people call and request parts. so you'll need to make sure that everything is there and if anything is missing research and make sure you can source those parts in without too much time, hassle or cost.

the funny thing is, the whole wiring harness i purchased from another wrecker was not even needed in the end as the new sparkie spliced the old loom and joined them up. so now i'm left with a complete gto harness including the fuse boxes sitting in one big pile at the workshop not needing to be used which was a waste of $300
remember this - if your mechanic or sparkie freaks out and tells you that you'll need the complete harness from the gto - you won't.

as for your budget, let's just say you've got $4500 (including $1500 for the front cut and $800 for the wiring to be done)
if you know your stuff and you are able to do the transplant yourself including the extractors then it'll be even cheaper.
fabricating the extractors yourself will knock a good $1000 off the total bill

now the most time consuming part of the conversion wasn't the labour or the wiring or even ordering parts - it was finding a sparkie and a workshop that actually wanted to do the job!
i was stuffed around by 2 places that kept the car for 3 weeks all together just sitting in their workshop.
2 weeks later when it was time to get "started" on the car they bailed out as they realised it would be too time consuming for them and not worth the trouble.
so finding someone who is dead set willing to get stuck into it immediately is paramount.

yeah thanks for the heads up, thats one thing i never considered, but now you mentin it ive had the problem before, that a lot of workshops are that snowed under its easy for them to push harder jobs to the back of the pack

Ive done a few engine swaps, myself (of the same type) and helped out my retired mechanic mate do a few conversion (mostly v8's into commy's) i honestly do think my only drama will be wiring it in.

Ill take your advice and buy a reliable runabout before hand, hope you get your ride back as soon as you can

Lionel

keep us updated with your side of the project
and i'll be happy to help if you have any questions - just like aj, paula, mal, chuck and kb helped me

http://www.drastixent.com/images/winamp.gifhere's (http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/mnikoloias/startup_quick.mp3) a soundclip (in mp3) of the startup and rev recorded on an Olympus FE-270

Sounds like its got a real crackle to it... Nice...

http://www.drastixent.com/images/winamp.gifhere's (http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/mnikoloias/startup_quick.mp3) a soundclip (in mp3) of the startup and rev recorded on an Olympus FE-270

yep thats how they sound. Awesome isnt it.

good to hear it running

Hows it drive?:badgrin:

i was pretty amazed with the sound
must be your secret pipe work aye dan
sounds like aj's one

can't drive her yet, still needs the alternator belt on then it'll be time to take it to the streets and get the extractors finished up too

http://www.drastixent.com/images/winamp.gifhere's (http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/mnikoloias/startup_quick.mp3) a soundclip (in mp3) of the startup and rev recorded on an Olympus FE-270

Ahh, doesn't get much better than that. :)

keep us updated with your side of the project
and i'll be happy to help if you have any questions - just like aj, paula, mal, chuck and kb helped me

http://www.drastixent.com/images/winamp.gifhere's (http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/mnikoloias/startup_quick.mp3) a soundclip (in mp3) of the startup and rev recorded on an Olympus FE-270

*wipes computer moniter clean* lol :shock:

sounds mean, jeeealous

mate, awsome job, good to hear it going at last.

how are you coming along with that wiring diagram, I am thinking may have to do a Wagon sometime lol

thanks guys i'm greatful for the support and help from everyone here and at the mitsubishi club
can't wait to take it for it's first drive
hopefully the transmission will last me a few more months until i drop the manual box in

the sound still amazes me
there's something that makes the hairs on your neck stand up when the engine growls

btw mal i'll be picking up those wiring diagrams on friday afternoon from jim (the sparkie)
so i'll get a copy out to you on monday at lunch time
i strongly recommend anyone in sydney who needs wiring to be done to take their car to sideshow's performance wiring in giraween (http://spw.starkie.net/) which is where kb got his wiring done too a few years ago

p.s i hope this has inspired you guys to do the dohc conversion too

mate, awsome job, good to hear it going at last.

how are you coming along with that wiring diagram, I am thinking may have to do a Wagon sometime lol

You up for a conversion on my car? Im still looking for a sparkie :D

Get me that diagram to look at and I could be interested lol

After all this DRAMA end effort its all about to pay off eh dimi... and about time. you shoud be shot for keeping us waiting so long....actually the DICK"S that you have had to contend with amazes me and need to be shot! HAHAHAH:rant:

You would be gettin butterflies in the stomach about to have your baby back! Thats just grown some big balls!

Hope to see you soon!

:thumbsup:

Will let you know next week, GT... Yeah dimi whats the go,.... bro!!! HAHAHA

is it next week?
ps dimi stop *** around. I wanna hear results. Sound so good.

same
i'm so g'd up to take the car for a drive
i was supposed to have the car on tuesday but the workshops' supplier brought in the wrong sized belts
today they got around 15 different sized belts for me to try on tomorrow
i'm praying that one will be the right size and if it is i'll get a call from them saying she's all good to go

if i get her tomorrow i'll be the happiest dude
and i'll send you an mms of her in action

all this wait has really drained me
especially with the workshop telling me it'll be ready by today then need another part over and over... argh

and i know they're getting annoyed with my calls for updates but it's not my fault - i need to know what's going on and when i don't hear anything from them i start thinking of worst case scenarios

same
i'm so g'd up to take the car for a drive
i was supposed to have the car on tuesday but the workshops' supplier brought in the wrong sized belts
today they got around 15 different sized belts for me to try on tomorrow
i'm praying that one will be the right size and if it is i'll get a call from them saying she's all good to go

if i get her tomorrow i'll be the happiest dude
and i'll send you an mms of her in action

all this wait has really drained me
especially with the workshop telling me it'll be ready by today then need another part over and over... argh

and i know they're getting annoyed with my calls for updates but it's not my fault - i need to know what's going on and when i don't hear anything from them i start thinking of worst case scenarios

Belts :S there should be a listing somewhere
I got mine from SCA...gates racing belts for $40 a pop custom ordered in....
should be something on 3si or 3sx about the sizes? should be something like 4pk915 and 6pk 1240 or something cant remember the last one

http://www.drastixent.com/images/winamp.gifhere's (http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/mnikoloias/startup_quick.mp3) a soundclip (in mp3) of the startup and rev recorded on an Olympus FE-270

while i havnt been keeping a close eye on this, i am interested - only read bits and peices here and there.

that engine note sounds very friggin nice.

looking forward to reading that its all done and your out and about enjoying the project :)

']Belts :S there should be a listing somewhere
I got mine from SCA...gates racing belts for $40 a pop custom ordered in....
should be something on 3si or 3sx about the sizes? should be something like 4pk915 and 6pk 1240 or something cant remember the last one

or wrap some string around it then go into repco and go "whats the closest belt above say 112cm in a 6 ribbed or whatever pattern you've got" go back to car fit and adjust tensioners then drive. ****ing took me like 10mins

thanks aj they've got the right sized belt and i'm picking her up this afternoon
i cannot explain how excited i am
i don't know why but i'm even more excited than the first day i picked up the supra

the car will need to go back to the workshop for a tune next saturday so it will run at top performance but for now i'm just happy it's driveable and has that beautiful 24v gto sound and performance

i must be the happiest guy in the world right now
can't even concentrate at work haha

Great job dimi... so ill see you tonight for a spin? Mwhuhahahahah:badgrin:

thanks aj they've got the right sized belt and i'm picking her up this afternoon
i cannot explain how excited i am
i don't know why but i'm even more excited than the first day i picked up the supra

the car will need to go back to the workshop for a tune next saturday so it will run at top performance but for now i'm just happy it's driveable and has that beautiful 24v gto sound and performance

i must be the happiest guy in the world right now
can't even concentrate at work haha

NICE!
Man sounds awesome. You better video every second of it so i can be envious:P
After all this time + money + swearing its almost done.

Cruise down to melb tonight maybe?:P

haha thanks guys
lmao paula most def will come down but i'd like to get it tuned first
i just picked it up and took an early lunch
sounds awesome but feels somewhat restrictive
definitely more power than the 12V and such a beefier engine note even at low rpm's
i guess it being an auto is one of the major restrictions as well as the stock air box and resonator which are still on. it needs a good tune. i've got new spark plugs for it.

dan i'm gonna drop off the car to you next week for the extractors and the exhaust to be done
if you could please do a nice catback system for me with that new muffler that we looked at that would be good
oh and the extractors too hehe

i'm just driving her normal now trying hard not to plant my foot down so nothing goes BANG until i get the tune done
the workshop said it's only running about 60-70% of what it should be and i believe them
so back to them next saturday for the tune

already on the way back to work i gave it a hit up victoria road across the gladesville bridge to see how it went and a group of kids standing on the bridge all turned around and one said GO THE GALANT i was like argh lol

**** Yeaaaaaahhhhhhh

This is awesome dude :) Can't wait to see some burnout vids... :D

LOL burnout vids

good stuff mate.. well done, drive it up to the gold coast and show me..

road trip..:D :badgrin:

congrats dimi on something that im sure has been quite painful but well worth it!
That engine note sounds mean as, i'd love to see some videos of it.