And here's my insane, some say ugly, LPG install.:D

Though I have tidied it up a bit since then.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee217/SH00T/IMG_0108.jpg

Is that a LPG Injection System..??? If so it will be good on fuel and also have more power..


I didnt see the point in spending the extra 2k on the pajero..:)


The guy that fitted mine has a VY SS Ute. He put LPG Injection on that and gained 20 kw atw..:)

And here's my insane, some say ugly, LPG install.:D

Though I have tidied it up a bit since then.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee217/SH00T/IMG_0108.jpg

you need to get yourself an engine cover so you can hide it all

My Magna is getting gas installed at Ezy Gas, they originally said it was a day and a half work but when they saw my magna they said it wont be ready until friday. They said something about my model (03 upwards) has a different setup and requires extra work? I thought it wasn't any different to the earlier magnas.

He also said the Fuel Gadge will become the gas gadge when i apply the gas switch on and the 'LPG' will appear on the dash
- does this make any sense to anyone? i was expecting some LED indicator lights somewhere under the steering wheel but an 'LPG' on the dash aswell as the fuel gadge adjusting between gas/fuel? i didn't think the LPG indicator was available on the dash already? I was a bit puzzled then i asked whether the trip computer will work with gas? he also said it 'should'...

Can anybody explain this? or anyone has this same magna setup the way this guy is talking about? im getting the ezygas $2299 deal thingy..

I'm worried im getting stuffed around... :-( yaarggh! i want my baby back!
i'm not quite sure about this. i had my 2004 TL ES converted at ezygas sunshine and i didn't get the built in indicator, instead I only get the LED gas indicator next to the steeringwheel. i'm not quite sure this happen because i'm getting the donut tank or they just too lazy to do mine. let me know if they actually set it up like what u said on ur car, because i definitely want mine built in like that.

o yeah, mine is installed with IMPCO kit

arrrghh crap.. just rang them and they said they won't be doing the same fuel gadge thingy and the trip computer won't be hooked to it etc.. They 'supposably' contacted the manufacturer about the dashboard/fuel gadge thingy and it's not 'compatible.'

So then i said it will be ready today then since they originally told me my magna was 'different' and takes an extra day work? (2 days so far) and they said no, still working on it and its tommorow sometime. They've done so many magnas before i have no idea why its taking them long to do mine.

oh and he says the newer magna's has that capability.. mine's the TL VR-X so whether it's the last range Magnas or the 380's he's talking about.

So yeah, Ariella - mine probably will be set up like yours.

If you look at at the trip computer, the LCD display for LPG is there, above the hundreds and tens digits and below the TRIP word, it would not surprise me if they don't fit that unit as it's probably not in the price bracket of your package.
Not that it really matters, but it would be cool.

OOOOPs its below the Total sign and above the 1st digit.
Sorry

Okay, got my baby back.... deffo no gas/fuel gadge.. got the ordinary switch.

Here's the pics.. they've done a great job, very neat and clean setup. Gotta go back after 1000 k's for a bit of a tune up..

Hey guys, can anybody tell me if this is normal? When i start the magna its supposed to start on petrol for 3-5 secs but mine seems to go straight to gas on startup and its stalled the motor once already on startup..

Hey guys, can anybody tell me if this is normal? When i start the magna its supposed to start on petrol for 3-5 secs but mine seems to go straight to gas on startup and its stalled the motor once already on startup..

I believe the idea is that starting it on petrol is better for the engine because petrol has lubricants in it that gas doesn't have and starting it from cold without these lubricants is not great for the engine. Possibly also because the most common time for a gas car to backfire is on startup, so if it starts on petrol it reduced the chances of blowing your airbox to bits (but I'm open to be corrected, don't howl me down if I'm wrong and the reason is something else!!!) and thats a "normal" thing. I had a company car many moons ago, an EL Falcon, that did the same thing so even if the gas was full, if the petrol was empty the car would not start. You shouldn't really know if it starts on petrol because if it's switched to gas the gas indicator will still be on and the switch itself obviously won't move, so it will look for all intents and purposes like you have started the car on gas. The switch over is automatic and should be seemless......which leads to your next problem of the car stalling, this is not normal and it is probably worth taking it back to them to have a look. Unless it's not urgent and can wait til your 1000km service. But it's most likely something easy like a solinoid not cutting in/out soon enough so it's starving the car of both fuels for a second or 2 causing it to stall. I don't know a lot about gas systems but if the car runs smoothly once started then I'd suggest it's not too major. Gas conversions aren't ever an exact science, the cars were designed for unleaded and a whole heap of stuff has just been bolted on, so it's fairly standard that it should take some fine tuning. Once it's right you should be paying about the same per kilometre for gas that the rest of us are paying for unleaded....woo hoo low petrol prices!!

Hey guys, can anybody tell me if this is normal? When i start the magna its supposed to start on petrol for 3-5 secs but mine seems to go straight to gas on startup and its stalled the motor once already on startup..
If your conversion cost around $2500 less the rebate, you would probably be running a dual fuel system that stats on a squirt of petrol, then after a second the gas is supposed to take over.
If so, it is possible that your setup is similar to mine, where the converter is mounted on the left side of the engine bay, and a long vapour hose runs from it to the venturi setup inline with the air intake.
In my case, my installer has had to order a Vapour-Lock, which helps stop the vapour dispersing before the next start. Until this part can be supplied and fitted, the workaround is to wait until the initial start, then depress the accelerator to around 1500rpm for up to 5 seconds, when the system is controlling the LPG.

I had my car dynoed the other week so i thought i would update this thread with my power figures. Bearing in mind the car has Pacemakers and the N.Z cai intake.

On petrol it did 126 kw @ 4760 rpm

LPG it did 117 kw @ 4710 rpm.

Unfortunately i dont have a scanner so i cant post the actual dyno sheet. But it seems over 4500 rpm it runs very rich on both fuels so i might be up for an o2 sensor sometime soon.

Thats not Bad at all:)

Did you get a reading for the torque at all? It would be interesting to see LPG torque figures compared to petrol.

Thats not Bad at all:)

Did you get a reading for the torque at all? It would be interesting to see LPG torque figures compared to petrol.
Yeah i did. Its not really relevant i reckon....

Petrol, 497 nm @ 4170 rpm

LPG, 468 nm @ 4020 rpm

This is at the wheels of course and the gearing reduction and wheel size effects the outcome a lot. Alscall had a much higher torque reading due to his 18's.

Was there much difference in real world driving torque, say 1500 - 3000 RPM's?

Just curious as I have a similar, though not as pretty lol system to yours, bar the paccies.

Was there much difference in real world driving torque, say 1500 - 3000 RPM's?

Just curious as I have a similar, though not as pretty lol system to yours, bar the paccies.
I really need to post the dyno sheet don't i? lol

I had my car dynoed the other week so i thought i would update this thread with my power figures. Bearing in mind the car has Pacemakers and the N.Z cai intake.

On petrol it did 126 kw @ 4760 rpm

LPG it did 117 kw @ 4710 rpm.

Unfortunately i dont have a scanner so i cant post the actual dyno sheet. But it seems over 4500 rpm it runs very rich on both fuels so i might be up for an o2 sensor sometime soon.

Bring it with you the next time you drop over. I'll scan it for ya!!

Bring it with you the next time you drop over. I'll scan it for ya!!

Tell him to take a picture and post that. Never mind, I'll tell him!lol

Here it is on the Dyno... Obviously :roll:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/davepax982/MyTLVR009.jpg


And the readouts...

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/davepax982/MyTLVR011.jpg

Here it is on the Dyno... Obviously :roll:

I could have sworn that was Bathurst...

TF wagon on gas has 285,000 km on it.
Has a donut tank where the spare wheel goes.
Holds 47.5 usable liters.
Get 200km to a tank around town
Gets 400+ on a trip.
Only just put in on gas Very happy with it.

TF wagon on gas has 285,000 km on it.
Has a donut tank where the spare wheel goes.
Holds 47.5 usable liters.
Get 200km to a tank around town
Gets 400+ on a trip.
Only just put in on gas Very happy with it.

That's a bit high, I'd reckon.

If you're getting 400+ on the highway why so few kms around the town?

I used to get 250+ sitting in rush hour going nowhere.

How many liters does your tank hold?
It gets any where from 13 to 15 mpg around town!
Around 22 to 24 out the road!

Gas useage around town is pretty normal around town as you are on & off the gas all the time .
I had an ef wagon before this magna. Held about 60 lts of usable gas & only got about 250/300km around town. About 550 on a trip.
So i think it is normal gas usage around town.

50l tank in the wagon.

350-400kms highway, 250-300 city, depending on how I drive. :badgrin:

50l tank. 350-400kms highway, 250-300 city, depending on how I drive. :badgrin:

Ditto.

I've got a donut tankin my KJ AWD and if it is dead empty i can get about 56L into it
Around town i get about 380-400 km and in country i can get 500+ but that is a SVi system and not a mixer.

My tank takes about 50/55 litres when i run it pretty dry.. Get just over 400ks doing half stop/start half highway (Melton to Docklands) trips. When I'm doing just highway almost got 600k out of one tank. Very happy with that since that's only about $25 of gas :)

I've got a donut tankin my KJ AWD and if it is dead empty i can get about 56L into it
Around town i get about 580-400 km and in country i can get 500+ but that is a SVi system and not a mixer.

Ka? :gtfo:

I've got a donut tankin my KJ AWD and if it is dead empty i can get about 56L into it
Around town i get about 580-400 km and in country i can get 500+ but that is a SVi system and not a mixer.

??? Did you mean 380-400?

In your AWD? The best I can get from 60l is 480-500 & that's plain highway, nothing else. (In my AWD)

hey mate.
i have LPG in my 2001 tj. got it done about a year and a bit ago. i havent had any problems with it. she seems to run the same. and you save a bunch on petrol!

Yeah sorry, 350 - 400k's in city.

Might be how the gas is setup/installed or also the type of componentry which may give better k's. maybe?

I was really interested to get a feel for my economy in the TW (Vapour Injected) after I had it dyno tuned for more power, I filled up with gas at nudgee and drove to Gympie to pick up a set of numberplates. And returned and filled at the same station. Doing Mostly 110, some 100 and some 80 always with the AC on and through about 25% wet roads. With a couple of stops and a few bursts of speed as well.

I drove 340 km's and used 35.01 litres of gas ($19.56).

Very happy with that.:)
BTW the plates were 380LPG, and turned up at the Hyundai dealer in Gympie.lol . I've been looking for these for ages, They cost me $23.00:P

Has anyone successfully intergrated their lpg fuel guage with the existing petrol fuel guage on a 380?

but if in Sydney, AVOID the LPG fitter in Marrickville. He's the only one there.


I was thinking of converting through them as they gave me the cheapest quote on the same system. Can I please ask why? Please PM me if it's unsuitable to post here.

I was wondering, would there be any problems when converting a TS 1995 Magna 4 cyln to use LPG

Shouldnt be any problems at all dude, See plenty of them around :)
I'll be putting the Diamante on gas too.

I've got a donut tankin my KJ AWD and if it is dead empty i can get about 56L into it
Around town i get about 380-400 km and in country i can get 500+ but that is a SVi system and not a mixer.

Wow - my wagon's donut tank holds 60l of water and 46l of LPG. Wish I had your bigger tank (well I did when we were driving around Australia last year. Towing range was only 250 km.

Hey craney.
It varies on how much you can put in it. Sometimes when its empty i can only get 45 L in it and sometime i can get 55L in it. I have found it depends on the angle the car is on when filling it. I have heard they have a fairly basic float guage in the to trigger the cut out. I'm guessing this is why the angle affects how much you can put in.

I'm thinking about getting a gas system but not sure on what style of tank to get.
I like the idea of the donut tank, but would be constantly worried about flat tyres i think.
I rekon i could get the big one in the boot, i barely use my boot.

could i get some opinions on what you think is best?

and also, i'm looking at getting an ezygas svi system, could i get some opinions on that too?

Thanks

I was thinking of converting through them as they gave me the cheapest quote on the same system. Can I please ask why? Please PM me if it's unsuitable to post here.

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I put LPG on my TF Verada 3.5 when petrol hit $1 a litre, about 3 1/2 years ago. The initial conversion was CRAP (lesson: cheapest quote need not necessarily be the best) with the bloke using the roughest, sand cast mixer I have ever seen (a simple reverse trumpet, later found to be for a 2.6 litre Holden Rodeo!) and completely deleting the back pressure hose, which meant that the car stalled at about every second set of lights. I don't know where you are, Type40, but if in Sydney, AVOID the LPG fitter in Marrickville. He's the only one there.

Personal choice for gas tank.

Ask yourself though, when was the last time you used your spare? Also, do you have road side cover?

As for ezygas SVI systems, they are a great system. Very neat and relaible. Ask Dave(type40) if you want any further info.