So what does everyone run?
How much did they cost?
What sort of mileage you getting out of them?
Your thoughts on grip etc?
What size rims?

I will kick off. I am on standard VRX rims but am running 225/50/17 Toyo Proxes 4. I had to compromise as I couldnt get what I was after (maxxis MA-Z4s victra). I haggled them down to $200 each. Not overly impressed with them to tell the truth. They are ok but certainly dont set the world on fire with grip levels. I always look for a tyre that performs really well in the wet. In the dry there isnt that much between them but when the h2o hits the deck it sorts the men from the boys in the tyre world. OK you performance tyre testers out there, what is your choice of weapons?

Holy moley!! I am cheap, and drive like a grannie.

I have put Michelin XM1+ on both my TJ Sports and KJ Verada - standard 16" rims - the full set of 4 tyres for about $650- fitted.

These are quiet, comfy tyres which seem to handle OK and are supposed to be low-rolling-resistance and durable
[said to be 20% more wear than prev Michelin which was called XM1 (no "plus")] - think its silica in the compound is meant to help those traits.

I've had em on for one rotation so far - maybe 30K? and they seem to be going OK. They are 215/60 in 16"

I got Falken FK451 on mine in 245/35/R19 size. Not sure the price though; they were in a package. Not too cheap and not too expensive either. Feel good to me (I've had Falkens on most of my previous cars).
I rotate them every 5,000 and have done that 4 times, so 20,000km on them now and still heaps of tread. I look after them, so hopefully a couple more 10Ks left on them.

Wheels mag did a test back in 06 and those Maxxis victras rated highly.http://www.planetsoarer.com/06tyre/index.htm

Holy moley!! I am cheap, and drive like a grannie.

I have put Michelin XM1+ on both my TJ Sports and KJ Verada - standard 16" rims - the full set of 4 tyres for about $650- fitted.

These are quiet, comfy tyres which seem to handle OK and are supposed to be low-rolling-resistance and durable
[said to be 20% more wear than prev Michelin which was called XM1 (no "plus")] - think its silica in the compound is meant to help those traits.

I've had em on for one rotation so far - maybe 30K? and they seem to be going OK. They are 215/60 in 16"
You are pretty limited in 215/60/16 as to sticky rubber. I like to think of my tyres as a round black insurance policy. I havent gone for the larger rims because of the hefty increase in tyre cost that comes with that. They do turn in better and have less side wall distortion but there is a trade off there and that is ride comfort and the abililty to drive on anything other than the smooooooooooothest dirt rd. But heck if you dont want to do that and the cost of tyres doesnt scare you then they are sure nice both to drive with and style and bling!!

Wheels mag did a test back in 06 and those Maxxis victras rated highly.http://www.planetsoarer.com/06tyre/index.htm
yep I posted that link on another thread for fooz. They were the z1's the ones now are meant to be better and are the MA-Z4s. http://www.maxxis.com/AutomobileLight-Truck/High-Performance/MA-Z4S-Victra.aspx
I am yet to try them but I know that the Z1 outbraked the Toyo Proxes T1R by over 3 metres from 80 kph in wet braking!! and beat the Goodyear Eagle revspec RS-02 by over 2 metres!! These are both pretty good tyres in their own right but when you think of it how many prangs could be avoided by stopping 2-3 metres shorter eh?
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Maxxis/MA-Z1-Victra.htm

Yeah and good value to boot!

I put ROH Flare 19 inch rims on mine.

Finished it off with Yokohama Advan Sport ZR/225-40 tyres.

Rims cost $1700, tyres cost $1760.

Total $3460 for wheels and tyres.

Flares,are they what they fit to the TMR.Look nice!

Flares,are they what they fit to the TMR.Look nice!

Yes that's the TMR380 wheel.

Running with the tyres that were on the car when I bought it ,they were brand new Firenza ST08 the biggest load of shit tyre I have ever had the pleasure of driving on crap wear and the road noise unbelievable, do about 55 and they drown so much makes you want to speed, under braking the same . All up looking to get better tyre asap , have been recommended maxxis but cost still high $200+.Any ideas?

I run Nankang Sport NS-II's 235/35/R18 on Starcorp Diablo Racer 18x7.5's. Excellent in the dry, horrible in the wet (well, horrible for most, fun for me :))

Running with the tyres that were on the car when I bought it ,they were brand new Firenza ST08 the biggest load of shit tyre I have ever had the pleasure of driving on crap wear and the road noise unbelievable, do about 55 and they drown so much makes you want to speed, under braking the same . All up looking to get better tyre asap , have been recommended maxxis but cost still high $200+.Any ideas?

Ha, I got a pair of these Firenzas on my VS Commodore. I was after cheap tyres (low expense run around car). They're so noisey, like offroad 4x4 tyres! They're almost due for replacement anyway.

Running Dunlop SP300E on stock VRX rims in stock size.

Had them on Magna, fantastic tyre. Still good on 380. $234 a corner.

Also running a -0.27 camber thanks to the camber kit.

SP300E has trouble slipping even if you give it a squirt with TCL off.

Maxxis is the money if you are rolling on GT stockies

I got them on mine and honestly the best tyres I have had bar the Pirelli P5000s which sadly are no longer made in value,ride,noise,and grip

I put ROH Flare 19 inch rims on mine.

Finished it off with Yokohama Advan Sport ZR/225-40 tyres.

Rims cost $1700, tyres cost $1760.

Total $3460 for wheels and tyres.
OUCH!! That hurts the hip pocket!! The Advan look like good rubber. I used to race on A001 waaay back when, and they were great too. Come along way since, both yoko and me.

Running with the tyres that were on the car when I bought it ,they were brand new Firenza ST08 the biggest load of shit tyre I have ever had the pleasure of driving on crap wear and the road noise unbelievable, do about 55 and they drown so much makes you want to speed, under braking the same . All up looking to get better tyre asap , have been recommended maxxis but cost still high $200+.Any ideas?

What ever you do dont get the Maxxis MA-V1 they are rubbish. The MA-z4s would be the way to go and I got a quote yesterday from BJ $249 each for 225/50/17. That is if you are running the 17" rim. If not let me know and I will see if I can suss out a better set for you. In the meantime have a read on the Accelera Alpha. They fared really well too in the wheels test 2008. I dont know anything about them and still sussing them out myself. Anyone know about these?

Maxxis is the money if you are rolling on GT stockies

I got them on mine and honestly the best tyres I have had bar the Pirelli P5000s which sadly are no longer made in value,ride,noise,and grip

Which Maxxis do you have? z4s or z1?

I run Nankang Sport NS-II's 235/35/R18 on Starcorp Diablo Racer 18x7.5's. Excellent in the dry, horrible in the wet (well, horrible for most, fun for me :))
When I bought my vrx it had some cheapo tyre on the rear, the name of which I have subliminly blocked out, and old yoko DB's on the front. The tread pattern on the front ones looked good but one night I was going down a hill round a corner at around 60 km/h and the rear let go with absolutely no warning :roflwtf: big handfuls of opp lock got me back from 45 degree plus as the car coming up the hill contemplated what underwear he would change into when he got home. I was on the hunt for new rubber the next day. The moral I guess is for me that the price difference between average rubber and good rubber is alot less than your insurance excess and yours and your families ongoing medical bills. I will think of that tyre soon and name and shame it!!

On the 380 I run. Michelin MXV8's 215/55/17's 93v
How much did they cost? 155 a corner
What sort of mileage you getting out of them? Seem good, looking for 40-50
Your thoughts on grip etc? Quiet and quite grippy for the money, very comfortable against the OEM's due to the rounder sidewall, would recomend for moderate + driving habits.
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When I bought my vrx it had some cheapo tyre on the rear, the name of which I have subliminly blocked out, and old yoko DB's on the front. The tread pattern on the front ones looked good but one night I was going down a hill round a corner at around 60 km/h and the rear let go with absolutely no warning :roflwtf: big handfuls of opp lock got me back from 45 degree plus as the car coming up the hill contemplated what underwear he would change into when he got home. I was on the hunt for new rubber the next day. The moral I guess is for me that the price difference between average rubber and good rubber is alot less than your insurance excess and yours and your families ongoing medical bills. I will think of that tyre soon and name and shame it!!

With these nankangs, in the dry I have to be taking a corner rated at 55 at about 130 before they will start to slip, maybe your pressure was wrong, or the profile was making a big diff?

The basic 380 brake package looks tiny when you put decent sized wheels/rubber on.

Calipers are almost embarassing...LOL

Yeah thats the problem with using "open" style rims I guess,the ol' factory brakes let the team down looks wise! You gett'n her lowered soon?

What ever you do dont get the Maxxis MA-V1 they are rubbish. The MA-z4s would be the way to go and I got a quote yesterday from BJ $249 each for 225/50/17. That is if you are running the 17" rim. If not let me know and I will see if I can suss out a better set for you. In the meantime have a read on the Accelera Alpha. They fared really well too in the wheels test 2008. I dont know anything about them and still sussing them out myself. Anyone know about these?

Hi Matey, just be alittle careful when dropping down in overall tyre height, even though 225/50's are only about 15mm smaller in height than the 215/55's .As discussed earlier,the 380 's wheel arches are huge and hard to fill(unless your mchenry)and using smaller tyres makes it look even worse.

I have a set of Kumho ECSTA ASX 215 55R17
Like em . Very quiet and good in wet.

My Kumhos with red calipers

I run Falken 245/40 R19 FK452.

The front two I just replaced achieved 45K and the rear two are still on at over 50K. Grip is excellent in wet and dry.

With these nankangs, in the dry I have to be taking a corner rated at 55 at about 130 before they will start to slip, maybe your pressure was wrong, or the profile was making a big diff?

No and No. There is one thing that I am rather anal about and that is tyres. Tyre pressure was correct (not to the mitsi figures rather the tyre manufacturers figures) and the profile was as per standard. I had my cams open licence for a number of years before lack of money, wisdom or a combination of both saw me opt out of racing. No, these tyres were seriously scary!! They gave you absolutely no warning the were about to cut loose at all!! On a front wheel drive the front wheels usually start to lose grip and you go into terminal understeer long before the back gets moderately interested in joining the party, unless there is a handbrake involved somewhere along the line :happy:.

I run Falken 245/40 R19 FK452.

The front two I just replaced achieved 45K and the rear two are still on at over 50K. Grip is excellent in wet and dry.

The falkens sound like a good package. Must have a further look at them. Have run Falkens before and they were pretty good.

Shoot, you are spot on with the Michelins, they are great touring tyres and for most drivers they are fine. I guess what I am trying to do with this beastie is refine it without replacing heaps of parts or doing $$$$ mods. Better rotors, either DBA or RDA slotted with good pads + good wet weather tyres = less chance of accidents/avoiding people who have a licence but not the driving gene. :uzi::uzi::uzi:

On a front wheel drive the front wheels usually start to lose grip and you go into terminal understeer long before the back gets moderately interested in joining the party, unless there is a handbrake involved somewhere along the line :happy:.

Just be aware the 380 is not setup al la your standard front driver. Since you've done track work you'll appreciate this.
If you enter a corner at high entry speed with a late and attacking line, the 380 will break the rear first. If you enter at more normal speeds with a graduated entry, the 380 will understeer.

It's alluded to in some of the motoring writeups as well. One of the traits I love about this car.

I've tested this extensively and it's very consistent with the sports suspension setup. If you change the springs I can't vouch for the result.

Not a driving gene! I like that!:woot:

Just be aware the 380 is not setup al la your standard front driver. Since you've done track work you'll appreciate this.
If you enter a corner at high entry speed with a late and attacking line, the 380 will break the rear first. If you enter at more normal speeds with a graduated entry, the 380 will understeer.

It's alluded to in some of the motoring writeups as well. One of the traits I love about this car.

I've tested this extensively and it's very consistent with the sports suspension setup. If you change the springs I can't vouch for the result.
I havent had a good drive of it yet but from what I have felt I would beleive you. When it cut loose in the wet I wasnt going hard at all, rather doing the speed limit or very close to it. You would know that your level of attention increases dramatically when you are pressing on, but this was a huge surprise, and no there was no oil or diesel on the road either, just crap tyres!!

Not a driving gene! I like that!:woot:
I am convinced there is a driving gene and some just dont have it!!

I am convinced there is a driving gene and some just dont have it!!

I agree Matey! I'm a truck driver in the metro area,the things I see!:eek2:

I've been running the Maxxis Z1's for 12k kms now.......very happy with them.

Hi Matey, just be alittle careful when dropping down in overall tyre height, even though 225/50's are only about 15mm smaller in height than the 215/55's .As discussed earlier,the 380 's wheel arches are huge and hard to fill(unless your mchenry)and using smaller tyres makes it look even worse.
General rule of thumb is if you go up a width you go down a profile. There is almost no difference in the rolling circumference of the 2 sizes but you are spot on that the 225's are a tad smaller. It was the trade off I had to make to get a satisfactory tyre at the time. Very good advice wite all in all.

I've been running the Maxxis Z1's for 12k kms now.......very happy with them.
on a 380 or magna? I have had them on the Subaru and am keen to try the new MA-z4s they now have. I have heard a few good reports on the Kumhos and Nankangs I really would like Wheels to do some tests with them as well.

I agree Matey! I'm a truck driver in the metro area,the things I see!:eek2:

Mate !! the way some idiots treat trucks is amazing. Temporary Australians one and all. They dont realise what it takes to stop a truck and their little buzz bomb only equates to a speed bump if they pull in front of a semi and stand on the brakes. Then the poor truck driver has to deal with it for the rest of their lives. More education needed me thinks!

if i posted a picture of one maxxis ma-z1 i'm sure some people would think again, loved them early on after 40k they wear in a weird way and one tyre has had the steel belt move and ripped the sidewall almost all the way round, there over 12 months old and bob jane said no warranty and there almost worn on the inside edge anyway its normal,

going to give the kuhmo KU17's a try i think ( 245/35r19 )

on a 380 or magna? I have had them on the Subaru and am keen to try the new MA-z4s they now have. I have heard a few good reports on the Kumhos and Nankangs I really would like Wheels to do some tests with them as well.

AWD, Matey.

if i posted a picture of one maxxis ma-z1 i'm sure some people would think again, loved them early on after 40k they wear in a weird way and one tyre has had the steel belt move and ripped the sidewall almost all the way round, there over 12 months old and bob jane said no warranty and there almost worn on the inside edge anyway its normal,

going to give the kuhmo KU17's a try i think ( 245/35r19 )
Mmm that sounds odd. I have run them, as previously stated, on my subaru and my hoon nephews have given them a flogging on their cars too. No such problem there. Was it just one tyre? Front or rear? How much neg camber are you running? Did you hit anything with it ? (be honest now, this is not a witch hunt rather trying to work out if it was a lemon or subjected to other things that may have caused it. No I dont work for bob jane lol

AWD, Matey.
They go well on AWD's!

yeah just one tyre, hit nothing, wheel alignment were factory specs, not hit anything, but yes believe its a lemon tyre, this was on a TW, i have shown other tyre shops who said it is a manufacturing defect

I will kick off. I am on standard VRX rims but am running 225/50/17 Toyo Proxes 4. I had to compromise as I couldnt get what I was after (maxxis MA-Z4s victra). I haggled them down to $200 each. Not overly impressed with them to tell the truth. They are ok but certainly dont set the world on fire with grip levels. I always look for a tyre that performs really well in the wet. In the dry there isnt that much between them but when the h2o hits the deck it sorts the men from the boys in the tyre world. OK you performance tyre testers out there, what is your choice of weapons?

I have Proxes 4 on my XR8 when I had the 18's on it and loved them. If I could get them for $200 in 215/55/17 I would go for them again. Due to the strange OEM size of the 17's on the 380, tyres are just about as expensive as the 19's on the XR8, which now has Maxxis Z1's, 245/35/19, they were a bargain.

yeah just one tyre, hit nothing, wheel alignment were factory specs, not hit anything, but yes believe its a lemon tyre, this was on a TW, i have shown other tyre shops who said it is a manufacturing defect

Hey I believe you. I was walking past either a Holden or a Ford this morning and noticed it had Maxxis MA-V1 which are crappy anyway, and it had a major distortion in the sidewall of that tyre. something was going to go bang there and I didnt have a pen and paper to jot a short note for the poor person. Z's are miles better than the V's

I have Proxes 4 on my XR8 when I had the 18's on it and loved them. If I could get them for $200 in 215/55/17 I would go for them again. Due to the strange OEM size of the 17's on the 380, tyres are just about as expensive as the 19's on the XR8, which now has Maxxis Z1's, 245/35/19, they were a bargain.

Just go up to 225/50/17 like I did. Doesnt affect the speedo that much at all as the rolling circumference is very close. Due you like the Z's on the XR8? apparently the z4s are better still. Will be trying them next time around

Just go up to 225/50/17 like I did.

Ooooh, so 225/50/17's can be used on standard 380 rims, rather than 215/55/17's? I don't understand all this tyre mumbo jumbo so would have ended up getting the same size put on when we need replacements, but if the 225's can be put on as well, it gives me another option.

Cheers

J

Ooooh, so 225/50/17's can be used on standard 380 rims, rather than 215/55/17's? I don't understand all this tyre mumbo jumbo so would have ended up getting the same size put on when we need replacements, but if the 225's can be put on as well, it gives me another option.

Cheers

J
Yeah it is a general rule of thumb that if you go up a tyre size you go down a profile/aspect ratio. Always check first if the tyre will go on the rim without problems. I have seen in the past people who "shoehorn" tyres on a rim that is just waaaaaaaay too small for it. Reputable tyre fitters will not do this for you at all. If you have the standard rims from the VRX/GT you will have no problems whatsoever with the larger tyre size. It will have a minor impact on your speedo reading (will read under by 2-3 km @ 80-90kph) but I look at that as a built in safety buffer for speed camera eh?

Cool, thanks mate

This is true, at 225/50/17 you'll be going just under 3km/h slower than with standard 215's. I have found with my GPS that the speedo is already calibrated, as a lot of them are these days, to show a slightly higher speed than what is shown, as a built in buffer for cops and speed cameras. It's pretty common apparently.

235/50/17 is so close to standard it's not worth worrying about at all, it's just how it fits on the rim, and what the tyres in that size are priced at.

I am liking the Z1's on the XR8, but I am no longer driving it much so I expect them to last a LONG time!

This is true, at 225/50/17 you'll be going just under 3km/h slower than with standard 215's. I have found with my GPS that the speedo is already calibrated, as a lot of them are these days, to show a slightly higher speed than what is shown, as a built in buffer for cops and speed cameras. It's pretty common apparently.

235/50/17 is so close to standard it's not worth worrying about at all, it's just how it fits on the rim, and what the tyres in that size are priced at.

I am liking the Z1's on the XR8, but I am no longer driving it much so I expect them to last a LONG time!

The 235's would be a bit too big for the rim. You could get them on but it wouldnt be good. Best served to stick with the 225's

I used to run 235/60/15 on my XF with Dragways, it wasn't a problem on the rim. The 235 is so close to stock, plus more width, it's really looking attractive.

The 235's would be a bit too big for the rim. You could get them on but it wouldnt be good. Best served to stick with the 225's

Spoke to Brisgestone today, the 235s will not fit on the rim.

I got quoted for some Hancook 225/50/17 for $229 a corner.

I used to run 235/60/15 on my XF with Dragways, it wasn't a problem on the rim. The 235 is so close to stock, plus more width, it's really looking attractive.
XF probably had wider rims and as Braedz says Bridgestone wont fit them. Dont blame them.

My XF had 8" dragways with 245's, they were stolen and replaced by the same wheel in 7". I have decided to stick with stock 215 size as it may cause problems with insurance, going from 215 to 235, and I have gotten a great price on Proxes4 tyres in 215/55 size.

On the 380 I run. Michelin MXV8's 215/55/17's 93v
How much did they cost? 155 a corner
What sort of mileage you getting out of them? Seem good, looking for 40-50
Your thoughts on grip etc? Quiet and quite grippy for the money, very comfortable against the OEM's due to the rounder sidewall, would recomend for moderate + driving habits.
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$155 a corner, thats my kind of price :eeek:

My XF had 8" dragways with 245's, they were stolen and replaced by the same wheel in 7". I have decided to stick with stock 215 size as it may cause problems with insurance, going from 215 to 235, and I have gotten a great price on Proxes4 tyres in 215/55 size.
How much were your proxes 4's? Mine were $200 each for 225/50/17 after much haggling. Thought that was pretty good. I really want to try the new Maxxis on the 380 to see what they are like. I really like the MA-Z1's on my other car and was really dissappointed when I couldnt get them in the size I was after for the 380 :sook::sook:

I have been quoted 180 for the Proxes4 in standard size, though I may get a sightly better deal when I get there. I don't want my speedo to be any more under speed than it already is.

Looking at the Z4's, they don't seem to have as sporty a tread as the Z1's?

Just be careful about the wheel offsets on the 380 guys.

The 380 has a 46mm offset I think from memory.

(If its wrong your tyres sit proud of the body)

Insurance will let you down and you'll sometimes get a cop who fines you.

The road grime will spray all over your nice paintwork and the stone chip noise will drive you insane.

I have been quoted 180 for the Proxes4 in standard size, though I may get a sightly better deal when I get there. I don't want my speedo to be any more under speed than it already is.

Looking at the Z4's, they don't seem to have as sporty a tread as the Z1's?
That's a fine price for the Proxes 4's :noway: As I said I haven't heard a lot about the Z4's but I do agree with you that they don't look as aggressive tread wise, but really I don't give a rip as long as they do the job. The crap tyres I initially had on the rear (the name of which still evades me) had a great looking tread but oooooooooooooooohellllllll in the wet they were scary. The proxes are an ok tyre. had them on for around 10 thousand km so far and they are predictable and progressive, just not as grippy as I was hoping. Let me know what you think if you get them. I will be very interested to hear.

Just be careful about the wheel offsets on the 380 guys.

The 380 has a 46mm offset I think from memory.

(If its wrong your tyres sit proud of the body)

Insurance will let you down and you'll sometimes get a cop who fines you.

The road grime will spray all over your nice paintwork and the stone chip noise will drive you insane.
Very good advice when buying new wheels. On top of that if you get the wrong offset wheels you can overload your stub axles and create a whole world of pain for yourself. Make sure they are specifically for a 380 and not something else with the same stud pattern.

Just be careful about the wheel offsets on the 380 guys.

The 380 has a 46mm offset I think from memory.

(If its wrong your tyres sit proud of the body)

Insurance will let you down and you'll sometimes get a cop who fines you.

The road grime will spray all over your nice paintwork and the stone chip noise will drive you insane.


Yeah,ya got to be careful with insurance! When I rang around for prices on a policy, as soon as I said the car was lowered and had mags 99% of them would not touch me. Turns out Shannons insure late model daily drivers nowadays so they added it to an existing policy I have with them + a discount,these guys will insure anything!!!! So If some of you have taken out a policy and then done some lowering etc afterwards,you could be in for a shock come claim time!

I can say from my experiences, that I found when I was window-shopping for my 19s there is actually only a very small range of rims in our correct offset, as to comply you are basically limited to 7inch wide, and in 19s that is very rare; most 19s are 8-8.5). When I explained this debate (well, an older version of it) to the shop guy, he reckoned the chances of a cop busting a driver only for incorrect offset is almost impossible. Of course you don't put all your faith into the word of a salesman especially when he's trying to sell you something (though I didn't buy my rims from him), but then I recalled that 5 of my previous 9 cars have all had aftermarket rims, and back then I had never even heard of offset, so I surely didn't abide by it. Back then the insurance companies' (or at least NRMA who I've always been with) only size stipulation was that the rim could only be 1inch wider than the widest available wheel for that model (a rule I broke at least once, hehe). These days, when I checked for the 380, they said "as long as the car is road worthy we'll insure it". Naturally being a still-newish car, the 380 does not require a rego inspection yet but I asked my mechanic anyway, and he said he would only deny rego if the tyre's tread is exposed beyond the car's body. Only ~2mm of the swell of the sidewall of my fronts extend outside, as my 19s are technically illegal (can't remember what they are but they aren't 46). He said for this status, rego would pass no probs, so that means insurance would be accepted, also no probs.
Now you might be wondering, what if there was an insurance incident/accident? Well I've been through the system from that side too. Long story very short, last year I had a front end collision (only affecting bonnet, grille, & bumper). As is current proceedure, the car was towed the NRMA's Care Repair centre where it is checked out, and then sent out for repairs. As my car was locked away I couldn't change anything (ie put my standard wheels back on, swap springs, etc) and so I was very nervous that any of my mods would be found by a strict and unforgiving insurance inspector. The car was there overnight but nothing was said about anything. In fact the cops who came to the scene (as per towing proceedure) also didn't said anything about any mods. So in conclusion, not one comment was made about my wrong offset rims, or anything else on my car. I'm not saying this will or won't happen to you, nor will I make any recommendation about various offsets, but this is my story nonetheless.

Now you might be wondering, what if there was an insurance incident/accident? ....

That's good Grubco.
I'm insured with Western QBE ( I think they are just QBE these days) and when I decided on the wheels I rang them straight away. I don't think they had much clue but the wheels are now listed on my certificate. I doubt they'd have a foot to stand on if I make a claim and they suddenly decide my wheels stink.
So I'd suggest ppl getting their wheels actually listed on the insurance certificate.

That's good Grubco.
I'm insured with Western QBE ( I think they are just QBE these days) and when I decided on the wheels I rang them straight away. I don't think they had much clue but the wheels are now listed on my certificate. I doubt they'd have a foot to stand on if I make a claim and they suddenly decide my wheels stink.
So I'd suggest ppl getting their wheels actually listed on the insurance certificate.

That's interesting! QBE wouldn't insure me ? I agree, if they agreed to your wheels and its in writing you would be fine. Oh! have they agreed to the supercharger!:woot:

That's interesting! QBE wouldn't insure me ? I agree, if they agreed to your wheels and its in writing you would be fine. Oh! have they agreed to the supercharger!:woot:

Is there something Knotched isn't telling us??

Mine is insured with AAMI & they have noted on the policy the Supercharger kit installed.

Is there something Knotched isn't telling us??

Mine is insured with AAMI & they have noted on the policy the Supercharger kit installed.

:nuts: well I well and truly stuffed that post up them didn't I!:bowrofl: Boy,you guys must have different rules up there! I don't think I'd have a hope in hell getting you car insured by a mainstream insurer here in SA

:nuts: well I well and truly stuffed that post up them didn't I!:bowrofl: Boy,you guys must have different rules up there! I don't think I'd have a hope in hell getting you car insured by a mainstream insurer here in SA

I just rang them & told them it was a factory option which it was at the end & they flagged it as an option & asked how much to increase the agreed value.

I just rang them & told them it was a factory option which it was at the end & they flagged it as an option & asked how much to increase the agreed value.

Hey that's a good angle Fooz!.A factory option!Did they check?what is your premium if you don't mind me asking?

I just rang them & told them it was a factory option which it was at the end & they flagged it as an option & asked how much to increase the agreed value.

I guess then 19"s were a factory option then:woot:

I guess then 19"s were a factory option then:woot:

I renewed recently for $709 & all my mods are listed on the policy.

I renewed recently for $709 & all my mods are listed on the policy.

That's pretty good considering! I remember about 10 year ago I got a quote for $3000+ to insure an import i was thinking of buying.Needless to say i didn't buy it!

When I've updated additions (mods) to my policies, in the past, they have always brought up the car-make specs on their system to see what is and what is not an option. Theoretically 19s and the supercharger should be okay as they were standard equipment on the TMR which was an available model in the 380 line-up. I guess each insurer will have different views & opinions on this, so all you can do is try the 'available options' route.

When I've updated additions (mods) to my policies, in the past, they have always brought up the car-make specs on their system to see what is and what is not an option. Theoretically 19s and the supercharger should be okay as they were standard equipment on the TMR which was an available model in the 380 line-up. I guess each insurer will have different views & opinions on this, so all you can do is try the 'available options' route.

Yeah, that scenario could allow a lot of modifications to a base 380 and still be legal and get insurance i guess?

When I've updated additions (mods) to my policies, in the past, they have always brought up the car-make specs on their system to see what is and what is not an option. Theoretically 19s and the supercharger should be okay as they were standard equipment on the TMR which was an available model in the 380 line-up. I guess each insurer will have different views & opinions on this, so all you can do is try the 'available options' route.

Apparantly also while Mitsubishi still had some 380's to sell, you could have ordered them with the Supercharger kit installed as an option although now that can't happen.

Apparantly also while Mitsubishi still had some 380's to sell, you could have ordered them with the Supercharger kit installed as an option although now that can't happen.

Interesting,didn't know that!

Interesting,didn't know that!

Me too.

I left NRMA becuase they would not ensure my rims on my Corolla for Quote" due to a larger contact patch were the tyre touches the ground on a set of alloys you are in a high risk catergory for Aquaplaning"
I asked him if he knew what aquaplaning was and he said "no not really" So although I had being insured with them for 5 years already they came with a lame **** excuse not to ensure a rating 1 no claim driver
so I insured with AAMI who had no probs with me and my AQUAPLANING RIMS!

OH also did I mention
Ok I used to work AAMI as a client manager too

So I know a thing or too about the claims process

Unless you have a glaring illegal object or something that will have contributed to the accident you will not get questioned (honest)
Rims will NOT get your claim denied AFAIK and I used to deny claims (it was not on my list of things to deny on unless it was stupid things like 24s on a barina or something)
Rims are not going to cause accidents directly poor tyres and dodgy suspension and idiots behind the wheel will and plenty and I mean plenty of stock cars have damage or old suspension components and really CRAP TYRES and idiots behind the wheel

If you want to mod your car speak to your insurance company about it, be up front on what you are going to do, if they have an issue they will let you know

Before I left, I got the priveledge of handling a claim for a BA XR TT with over a thousand other mods to the engine

This thing was a pure weapon and my boss and I took it for a spin with the owner
(was hit in the rear so just a rear bar replacement)
It smoked the wheels so much and was LIGHTSPEED QUICK would scare Lambo's and Ferrari's

No probs with insurance cause he spoke to the insurance company first

So STOP STRESSING ABOUT INSURANCE AND RIMS it wont be an issue if you do the right thing

Insurance companies are not in the business of denying claims they are are in the business of protecting their vested interests in your motor so keep them informed and they can even increase the value of your vehicle with the extra mods you apply to the car

That's a fine price for the Proxes 4's :noway: As I said I haven't heard a lot about the Z4's but I do agree with you that they don't look as aggressive tread wise, but really I don't give a rip as long as they do the job. The crap tyres I initially had on the rear (the name of which still evades me) had a great looking tread but oooooooooooooooohellllllll in the wet they were scary. The proxes are an ok tyre. had them on for around 10 thousand km so far and they are predictable and progressive, just not as grippy as I was hoping. Let me know what you think if you get them. I will be very interested to hear.

I found the Proxes4 were great for grip in 245/40/18 on the XR, so am happy to go with them on the 380. My other choice is the Z1's, but I haven't got a price from the same place for those, as once he mentioned the Toyo's for $180, I was happy.

I left NRMA becuase they would not ensure my rims on my Corolla for Quote" due to a larger contact patch were the tyre touches the ground on a set of alloys you are in a high risk catergory for Aquaplaning"
I asked him if he knew what aquaplaning was and he said "no not really" So although I had being insured with them for 5 years already they came with a lame **** excuse not to ensure a rating 1 no claim driver
so I insured with AAMI who had no probs with me and my AQUAPLANING RIMS!



Ha, ha, that takes me down memory lane. The only reason my XF had 7" dragways was when my 8" rims were stolen the NRMA wouldn't replace them in that size due to "aquaplaning issues" with that size over what was stock on an XF Falcon, which had a 6" rim as the standard size. The Ghia (which I had) came with 15x7 but that didn't let me have 8" wheels in their book. After much arguments it came down to this: They would put the 8" rims on my car but would no longer offer insurance, or I could take the 7's. In the end, with my history at that time not so great I stuck with them to stay insured for a decent price, got the 7's, put 235's on them and lowered the car some more! Looked good until I sold it for the XR8.

Mechwombat has his finger right on the pulse. More serious accidents are caused by crap tyres or bald tyres. The amount of times bald,old or crap tyres factor in serious or fatal accidents is truly alarming. If insurance companies rewarded good tyres and upgraded brakes (which would both contribute to a safer vehicle) as well as good driving, we would be getting somewhere. Aquaplaning my glutious maximus!! The strollers tyres were probably better than the original. I was at a friends place yesterday and walked past their Magna (it was a sad case if neglect). I looked at the tyres as I was passing it. It amazes me how people can drive their cars and not notice. The 2 front tyres were around 22 psi and the rears were 24 and 28. Needless to say the fronts were stuffed from being under inflated. I made them promise to pump them up straight away after giving them a rocket for letting them get that bad in the first place. If you dont have time to do simple maintenance then dont drive!! simple as that. That car was far more dangerous than a nicely presented little stroller with slightly larger rims and sticky tyres that would be correctly inflated if I am not mistaken. OK sorry about all that, I will get off my soapbox now.

Just out of interest,has anyone seen the tyre placard on a TMR? Does it say 17 or 19?

Just out of interest,has anyone seen the tyre placard on a TMR? Does it say 17 or 19?

Could call TMR and ask I guess.

I have finally remembered those horrible tyres that I had on the rear they are Kenda CometsIf anyone, and I mean anyone, recommends them to you to put on your car, scratch them immediately off your Christmas card list as the mongrel is trying to kill you. They are ok in the dry but just wait as the humidity rises to near 100% they just lay down in a wimpering heap and throw in the towel.:rocket::chainsaw::angry::sniper::swearing: etc etc.
They look OK so youve been warned.

I have finally remembered those horrible tyres that I had on the rear they are Kenda CometsIf anyone, and I mean anyone, recommends them to you to put on your car, scratch them immediately off your Christmas card list as the mongrel is trying to kill you. They are ok in the dry but just wait as the humidity rises to near 100% they just lay down in a wimpering heap and throw in the towel.:rocket::chainsaw::angry::sniper::swearing:: uzi: etc etc.
They look OK so youve been warned.

KENDA COMETS ? Hah,sounds like some lame Japanese rollerball team!

The brand "Clear" is also a nasty piece of rubber I have heard, stay CLEAR of them!!! Pun intended!

Could call TMR and ask I guess.

Yeah,I suppose.There is one or two at the dealership down the road but the one I had a look at is locked. Would feel like a tool making them open her up just to check out the placard!And i surely don't want to get the sales spiel for a half hour either.Anyone know someone that's got one?on another forum maybe?

Just out of interest,has anyone seen the tyre placard on a TMR? Does it say 17 or 19?


here's one.

http://www.mitsubishiclubaustralia.com/forums/garage.php?mode=view_gallery_item&type=garage_gallery&image_id=4521

here's one.

http://www.mitsubishiclubaustralia.com/forums/garage.php?mode=view_gallery_item&type=garage_gallery&image_id=4521

Thanks Blackstar. I guess then you can legally fit 20's no prob's then? I wonder if you can get the placard from TMR?would keep the coppers happy if they were nosey!I think Mchenry's copped a few hassle's with his biggn's.

Thanks Blackstar. I guess then you can legally fit 20's no prob's then? I wonder if you can get the placard from TMR?would keep the coppers happy if they were nosey!I think Mchenry's copped a few hassle's with his biggn's.


I asked them for that sticker and they said no way, only had enough for the 20 TMR380's they built. :(

As long as the offset is 46mm then they are legal.

Apparently TMR got an ADR compliance certificate for the ones they use in the TMR380.

And Mitsubishi approve of course.

I got mine from TMR cause I wanted the triple diamond logo like the TMR has in the centers.

(they wouldn't sell the centers on their own...damn)


http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2397/19inwheels.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/19inwheels.jpg/)

Yeah I guess its the little things that can finish a car off nicely! Ah well got a nice pic of that sticker,might print me own!lol

KENDA COMETS ? Hah,sounds like some lame Japanese rollerball team!

I think a Japanese roller ball team would have more grip than these puppies. and I have heard that Clear are also rubbish. Has anyone heard of Neutons?

I think a Japanese roller ball team would have more grip than these puppies. and I have heard that Clear are also rubbish. Has anyone heard of Neutons?

Yes! they're in soup!:thumbsup:

Ok, just realised there was a miscommunication, the Toyo's I've been quoted on are Teo Plus. Anybody got any thoughts on them? This is in standard profile for VRX.

Ok, just realised there was a miscommunication, the Toyo's I've been quoted on are Teo Plus. Anybody got any thoughts on them? This is in standard profile for VRX.
Havent heard of them personally but here is a review site. Fairly positive reviews but who know what they drive like or what their expectations are out of a tyre. In the end it is all relative. I figure if the hoon sites, sorry enthusiast sites, rave about them then they should be ok. Hit the search engines and find out.
Also toyo blurb on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PgHnezYw_Q
Interestingly the Maxxis outpointed the top of the line Proxes T1R in wet handling and braking, the latter by a whopping 3 metres from 80 kph. I know this because I was going to buy the T1R until I read the wheels tyre test. I then went for the Maxxis. Still happy with them and will be probably get the same again.

I'm running Lenso 18" Widetrack with Regal Racer 235/40 R18. They are manufactured in South Africa by Dunlop. Seems ok. Bought at the tyre factory in Dandenong.http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=137&pictureid=751

Found a site with reviews of the Teo Plus, http://www.productreview.com.au/showitem.php?item_id=16022 all very positive, I think I'll pick up a set of these now in 215/55/17.

Found a site with reviews of the Teo Plus, http://www.productreview.com.au/showitem.php?item_id=16022 all very positive, I think I'll pick up a set of these now in 215/55/17.
Sorry gene I forgot to include that link but you found it anyway. Let us know how you go and what you think. Just for a point of reference, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being "I drive hard everywhere, standing it on its ear through most corners and lucky to get 10000 out of a set of tyres" and 1 being "driving Miss Daisy" where do put yourself?
I used to be a 10 back in my younger years but and probably now more a 4 due to watching too many people die around me on the roads and the responsibility of parenthood (not neccessarily in that order).

The 380 is our new family runabout and as such I drive it a LOT differently to my XR8, which is a manual. I drive the 380 just to get around, for economy about 90% of the time, just keeping up with traffic, but if I need to tramp it to get somewhere that is also fine, so maybe I'm a 4 or a 5?

I do drive the XR8 much differently, especially as I don't drive it as often, saving fuel isn't a concern there.

Reading those reviews I think the Teo Plus will be a great tyre on the 380.

The 380 is our new family runabout and as such I drive it a LOT differently to my XR8, which is a manual. I drive the 380 just to get around, for economy about 90% of the time, just keeping up with traffic, but if I need to tramp it to get somewhere that is also fine, so maybe I'm a 4 or a 5?

I do drive the XR8 much differently, especially as I don't drive it as often, saving fuel isn't a concern there.

Reading those reviews I think the Teo Plus will be a great tyre on the 380.
You sound like me buddy!! all good!!

Finally decided to ditch the factory 17's and got offered some Goodyear eagle RSA's as part of a wheel/tyre package.They were cheap ,for Goodyears,but had not heard of these so didn't commit to them and thought i better check here and the rest of the WWW first.Just as well,virtually everyone thinks there crap and alot have been replaced in a recall of sorts as there sidewalls like to part company with the case.These are OEM in alot of vehicles apparently and I would have thought they would've been better,especially being a big brand name?Ah well, went for Maxxis Z1's in the slightly taller than stock 245/40/19 as hoping to retain a little ride quality.Should be on tomorrow and,fingers crossed,hopefully don't rub and look smart!:woot:

Finally decided to ditch the factory 17's and got offered some Goodyear eagle RSA's as part of a wheel/tyre package.They were cheap ,for Goodyears,but had not heard of these so didn't commit to them and thought i better check here and the rest of the WWW first.Just as well,virtually everyone thinks there crap and alot have been replaced in a recall of sorts as there sidewalls like to part company with the case.These are OEM in alot of vehicles apparently and I would have thought they would've been better,especially being a big brand name?Ah well, went for Maxxis Z1's in the slightly taller than stock 245/40/19 as hoping to retain a little ride quality.Should be on tomorrow and,fingers crossed,hopefully don't rub and look smart!:woot:
They are a great wet tyre value for money and as I previously said out braked the Toyo T1R's by 3 metres in the wet. No mean feat.

Finally decided to ditch the factory 17's and got offered some Goodyear eagle RSA's as part of a wheel/tyre package.They were cheap ,for Goodyears,but had not heard of these so didn't commit to them and thought i better check here and the rest of the WWW first.Just as well,virtually everyone thinks there crap and alot have been replaced in a recall of sorts as there sidewalls like to part company with the case.These are OEM in alot of vehicles apparently and I would have thought they would've been better,especially being a big brand name?Ah well, went for Maxxis Z1's in the slightly taller than stock 245/40/19 as hoping to retain a little ride quality.Should be on tomorrow and,fingers crossed,hopefully don't rub and look smart!:woot:

Well there on and i"m very happy.The tyre guy couldn't believe that they fitted with zero rubbing and are sure glad I went with the higher profile like BLUE etc as the ride is really quite good.Noise is good but haven't flew around any corners yet but I'm sure they will handle fine.One unexpected bonus with going with the wider and taller Z1's was the good amount of gutter protection they have.Wheels look smart too,similar to the wheels on the multi function screen on start up,but have to wait to wed to pick up my :mits: center caps which should finish them off nicely:happy:

Pirrelli Dragons 235/40/18 $350 each :(

Pirrelli Dragons 235/40/18 $350 each :(

So going by the sad face they were crap yes?

So going by the sad face they were crap yes?


No, more like the price is alot

I used to love Pirelli but seriously a big fan of MAXXIS now

Yeah I don't think $350 a corner is to bad as long as the tyre delivers what you would expect at that price.But,as I found out about those RSA's, sometimes you seem to pay for the name and the tyre doesn't deliver!

Well there on and i"m very happy.The tyre guy couldn't believe that they fitted with zero rubbing and are sure glad I went with the higher profile like BLUE etc as the ride is really quite good.Noise is good but haven't flew around any corners yet but I'm sure they will handle fine.One unexpected bonus with going with the wider and taller Z1's was the good amount of gutter protection they have.Wheels look smart too,similar to the wheels on the multi function screen on start up,but have to wait to wed to pick up my :mits: center caps which should finish them off nicely:happy:

Haven't got the center caps yet,but I thought I'd chuck this pick up to see what ya's think!

So how much for the package, and where from?

Cheers

J

So how much for the package, and where from?

Cheers

J

Hi Jimmy, Got them from Wheelworx for $2050.Those guys have probably got the best display of mags I've seen in S.A.They fitted my tyre pressure sensors for me,wrapped my stockies in plastic at put them in the boot for us too,top blokes. Went to some other tyre joints and they have sweet F all to look at!

Haven't got the center caps yet,but I thought I'd chuck this pick up to see what ya's think!

Wheels look good mate :happy:

Wheels look good mate :happy:

thats an understatemnet they are HOT:woot:

Yep, definitely hot. Would look so much better on mine though, hehe

Haven't got the center caps yet,but I thought I'd chuck this pick up to see what ya's think!

Beautiful...nice work.

I got 2 Nexcen 225/50/17 the other day to replace my 2 front tyres. They cost $170 each.

And...I was quite surpised how good they are for a cheap tyre. The grip is good in the dry and wet, turn in is not too bad and there is hardly any road noise.

I totally recomend this tyre if you are on a budget. I am very happy with my purchase. :happy:

I got 2 Nexcen 225/50/17 the other day to replace my 2 front tyres. They cost $170 each.

And...I was quite surpised how good they are for a cheap tyre. The grip is good in the dry and wet, turn in is not too bad and there is hardly any road noise.

I totally recomend this tyre if you are on a budget. I am very happy with my purchase. :happy:

215/55 x 17 Maxxis Z1 are only $5 more if you shop around and are an excellent tyre. Don't have them on mine yet, no sizes in 16", but have driven cars with them in dry and wet and wet performance was exceptional.

Cheers,
Alan

Well there on and i"m very happy.The tyre guy couldn't believe that they fitted with zero rubbing and are sure glad I went with the higher profile like BLUE etc as the ride is really quite good.Noise is good but haven't flew around any corners yet but I'm sure they will handle fine.One unexpected bonus with going with the wider and taller Z1's was the good amount of gutter protection they have.Wheels look smart too,similar to the wheels on the multi function screen on start up,but have to wait to wed to pick up my :mits: center caps which should finish them off nicely:happy:

Just out of curiousity what was the offset as a few ppl have different ideas on this

Offset only applies to the rims. And in asking that, you're opening a can of worms, as everyone has different views on what's legal and what's not - and what will bounce your insurance claims, etc.
Having said all that, I think the offset is 46?

Haven't got the center caps yet,but I thought I'd chuck this pick up to see what ya's think!

Thanks for the positive feedback fellas! As I said I always liked the picture of the 380 on the MF Screen on start up and these were the closest I could find, look real nice when moving too! Yeah I should try and find there exact offset as now I've had her loaded up and still do not rub at all.:thumbsup:

215/55 x 17 Maxxis Z1 are only $5 more if you shop around and are an excellent tyre. Don't have them on mine yet, no sizes in 16", but have driven cars with them in dry and wet and wet performance was exceptional.

Cheers,
Alan

Maybe try for the Z4-s . they appear to be superceding the Z1 but why would you?

I think a Japanese roller ball team would have more grip than these puppies. and I have heard that Clear are also rubbish. Has anyone heard of Neutons?


yea mate iv got 2 neutons in 235/45/17s on the rear of my vrx.. they have done almost 80 thou kms properly got atleast another 10 b4 need to replace.. as a drive tyre they were ok but as a trail tyre the are excellant...

yea mate iv got 2 neutons in 235/45/17s on the rear of my vrx.. they have done almost 80 thou kms properly got atleast another 10 b4 need to replace.. as a drive tyre they were ok but as a trail tyre the are excellant...
Sorry Bad but I may be a bit slow here. What do you mean by a drive tyre and trail tyre?
80000 km is a heck of a lot out of one set of tyres!! I only get 30-40k out of mine!!

Ive just ordered myself a set of Kumho Ecsta KU36 in 235/45/18 for about $250 per tyre. They get fitted wednesday, im assured they have awesome grip, will see how many kay's i get :D

http://www.good-win-racing.com/mazda-talk/images/SEMA07b.jpg

Sorry Bad but I may be a bit slow here. What do you mean by a drive tyre and trail tyre?
80000 km is a heck of a lot out of one set of tyres!! I only get 30-40k out of mine!!

a drive tyre is a front tyre on a front wheel drive --- the tyre that puts the power down,steering, and most of the breakin

a trail tyre is a rear tyre on a front wheel drive --- do stuff all basic breakin and just follows along...

i dont rotate my tyres around at all.. i get bout 35 to 45k out of fronts and yea bout 80 to 90 out of rears...trail tyres should last a gud distance if u dont be stupid wit them (eg: handbreakys)

a drive tyre is a front tyre on a front wheel drive --- the tyre that puts the power down,steering, and most of the breakin

a trail tyre is a rear tyre on a front wheel drive --- do stuff all basic breakin and just follows along...

i dont rotate my tyres around at all.. i get bout 35 to 45k out of fronts and yea bout 80 to 90 out of rears...trail tyres should last a gud distance if u dont be stupid wit them (eg: handbreakys)

Mmm sounds good. Haven't heard it put that way. Maybe just having another "senior moment" lol

Ive just ordered myself a set of Kumho Ecsta KU36 in 235/45/18 for about $250 per tyre. They get fitted wednesday, im assured they have awesome grip, will see how many kay's i get :D


They look very much like a semi track tyre to me. I would reckon that would have great dry grip. Not so sure about the wet.
Edit: They are. http://www.fsport.com.au/fsport_siteroot/home.html

I never heard of that; tyres specifically for front and rear.

It is not that they are specifically for front or rear, it is just he doesnt rotate tyres.
Hey Bad, they must be a tight fit on the 7" rims those 235's!!

It is not that they are specifically for front or rear, it is just he doesnt rotate tyres.
Hey Bad, they must be a tight fit on the 7" rims those 235's!!

no they arent specifically for front or rear.. i did have them on the front to start with but after 3 days i put them on da back.. becuase of the type of compound they are they just spun every time i gave it a bit of stick on take off..

i dont have a problem with the 235's on da 7" rims i have had 245's on them they were a nitemare to fit but they do go on and look sweet...

i have found usein 235s the walls roll abit which acts sorta like a protection buffer from gutter rash and alikes.. the car handles way better with 235's ova the stock 225's that should be on there...

the car handles way better with 235's ova the stock 225's that should be on there...
Actually stock are only 215/55/17 I have the 225/50/17's on mine

Actually stock are only 215/55/17 I have the 225/50/17's on mine

well there ya go.. i always thought they were 225..lol learn sumfin new everyday...

So going by the sad face they were crap yes?

well they just expensive, these are the best tyres i ever had, $350 was the on special price

We WERE running Toyo Proxes4 235/30/zR22 90W. At the time of purchase they were round the $800 a corner mark, now I think they have dropped down to approx $500-$600.

MCHenry, I noticed your signature declares something was stolen. The rims on your car? Is that right, or did you sell them?

They look very much like a semi track tyre to me. I would reckon that would have great dry grip. Not so sure about the wet.
Edit: They are. http://www.fsport.com.au/fsport_siteroot/home.html
Just got them fitted today with some new rims. The guys told me to take it easy for the first few hundred kays to wear them in, and always make sure they are warmed up before attempting any tricky stuff lol

Sounds like lotsa fun :D

Not looking forward to rotations every 2000km's though... :doubt:

Just got them fitted today with some new rims. The guys told me to take it easy for the first few hundred kays to wear them in, and always make sure they are warmed up before attempting any tricky stuff lol

Sounds like lotsa fun :D

Not looking forward to rotations every 2000km's though... :doubt:

Yep semi track tyre for sure. 2000 km? If you get that much out of them lol. These are a different kettle of fish to your standard road tyre so heed their advice. I would take it pretty easy in the wet as they look like aquaplane specials. Nice tyre though if you intend to drive hard and do some club days. I will be interested to see what you think after a month or so.

Yep semi track tyre for sure. 2000 km? If you get that much out of them lol. These are a different kettle of fish to your standard road tyre so heed their advice. I would take it pretty easy in the wet as they look like aquaplane specials. Nice tyre though if you intend to drive hard and do some club days. I will be interested to see what you think after a month or so.

Did they say how many K's to expect?If they wear like the Bridgstone semi race tyres I had and with the weight of a 380 you'll be lucky to get 10k out of them.I reckon they would be better in the rain than my Bridgies were,got more grooves in those Kuhmo's for sure. You should have a ball on these :thumbsup:

Apparently they have put these tyres on a local's v8 ute running 600hp atw and he gets 5000k's of track work. Should be able to get up to 15 on the road. Wet roads are a big no no lol.

I just went for my first longer drive tonight, got up to 120 on the motorway, no tyre noise at all. Very impressed.

Apparently they have put these tyres on a local's v8 ute running 600hp atw and he gets 5000k's of track work. Should be able to get up to 15 on the road. Wet roads are a big no no lol.

I just went for my first longer drive tonight, got up to 120 on the motorway, no tyre noise at all. Very impressed.
Yep they will be good in the dry but be verry verry careful of heavy downpours!! Enjoy them and do let us know how much you get out of them. You know you will have to do a track day now that you have them on dont you?

MCHenry, I noticed your signature declares something was stolen. The rims on your car? Is that right, or did you sell them?

Yeah mate, the 22"s were stolen.

The link is here. http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70714

Yeah mate, the 22"s were stolen.

The link is here. http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70714

We will Keep our eyes open in NSW too. They should stick out like the proverbial if they show up. Were they on the car at the time they were stolen? What are you running on now?

Maybe try for the Z4-s . they appear to be superceding the Z1 but why would you?


Maxxis MA-Z1 aren't being superceded by Z4. That myth is being put around by some importers to move stocks of Z4 and dealers are swallowing it. Z4 are more a mileage tyre rather than for good handling, designed for the mileage conscious Americans. Don't understand what you mean by "but why would you".

Cheers,
Alan

Maxxis MA-Z1 aren't being superceded by Z4. That myth is being put around by some importers to move stocks of Z4 and dealers are swallowing it. Z4 are more a mileage tyre rather than for good handling, designed for the mileage conscious Americans. Don't understand what you mean by "but why would you".

Cheers,
Alan

Unfortunately they are not bringing in certain sizes in the z1's either. I would imagine you are talking about BJ as they seem to get these in by the container load. They are also touting the Z4S to be better than the Z1, however I have not seen anything to back this claim. Alan, perhaps you know of someone who has run both and could give feed back. I know that I would rather the Z1's over the Toyo Proxes4 that I have on at present.

Unfortunately they are not bringing in certain sizes in the z1's either. I would imagine you are talking about BJ as they seem to get these in by the container load. They are also touting the Z4S to be better than the Z1, however I have not seen anything to back this claim. Alan, perhaps you know of someone who has run both and could give feed back. I know that I would rather the Z1's over the Toyo Proxes4 that I have on at present.

Maxxis distribution is a mess in Australia. Actually most brands of better quality tyres are with Michelin probably the worst and Bridgestone the best. Outlets will all tell different stories and quote different prices, sometimes 20-30% different. Some Bob Jane dealers can get most Maxxis in most sizes, others say they can't. There are independants selling Maxxis too but it takes a bit of looking to find them.

What size are your wheels and what size tyres are you wanting?

I don't know of any who has run both the Z1 and Z4 but I looked at the Maxxis site and the UTQG numbers are telling.The Z1 are 280 AA A and the Z4 is 50% higher at 420 AA A, so should last about 50% more km. Generally anything over 300 AA A will be too hard as it ages and be hopeless in the wet and when cold. Even 280 can be marginal unless the manufacturer knows how to make a good wet rubber compound that wears slowly.

Cheers,
Alan

Maxxis distribution is a mess in Australia. Actually most brands of better quality tyres are with Michelin probably the worst and Bridgestone the best. Outlets will all tell different stories and quote different prices, sometimes 20-30% different. Some Bob Jane dealers can get most Maxxis in most sizes, others say they can't. There are independants selling Maxxis too but it takes a bit of looking to find them.

What size are your wheels and what size tyres are you wanting?

I don't know of any who has run both the Z1 and Z4 but I looked at the Maxxis site and the UTQG numbers are telling.The Z1 are 280 AA A and the Z4 is 50% higher at 420 AA A, so should last about 50% more km. Generally anything over 300 AA A will be too hard as it ages and be hopeless in the wet and when cold. Even 280 can be marginal unless the manufacturer knows how to make a good wet rubber compound that wears slowly.

Cheers,
Alan
You are spot on about Maaxis distribution. They really need an Australian distributor.
I was looking for either 215/55/17 or the 225/50/17 in Z1's. I have heard a few here that run 235/45/17 on the stock VRX rims but that is a bit of a shoe horn fit I feel.
I read that too about the Z4 being rated 420 which is why I am being a bit cynical about them. I have got around 35 thousand out of the Z1 on the Liberty and they are about done now. They rated very highly in the wheels test a few years back in the wet. Tyres tend not to have as much between them in the dry so I never base my choice on dry performance. The Z1 really impressed me by pulling 3 metres in wet braking from the top Toyo T1R. They were also very good in wet cornering.
You can save yourself and others alot of pain in 3 metres.

You are spot on about Maaxis distribution. They really need an Australian distributor.
I was looking for either 215/55/17 or the 225/50/17 in Z1's. I have heard a few here that run 235/45/17 on the stock VRX rims but that is a bit of a shoe horn fit I feel.
I read that too about the Z4 being rated 420 which is why I am being a bit cynical about them. I have got around 35 thousand out of the Z1 on the Liberty and they are about done now. They rated very highly in the wheels test a few years back in the wet. Tyres tend not to have as much between them in the dry so I never base my choice on dry performance. The Z1 really impressed me by pulling 3 metres in wet braking from the top Toyo T1R. They were also very good in wet cornering.
You can save yourself and others alot of pain in 3 metres.

I've driven cars with Z1 in the wet and they felt like road was dry. Great grip, very confident, and send good feel to steering so you can sense trouble sooner. You are right about dry grip. Except on the track there is very little difference and any quality tyre should hold up OK.

The 215/55 x 17 should be available. Thats the MA-Z1 size Graham got off Bob Jane for $175 each, only a few weeks ago. I think he had them in the shed when we did the cams and heads but he didn't fit them so as not to distort the fuel economy figures. Different tyres can change economy several % and he wanted a true idea of how the mods affected economy.

They don't make 225/50 x 17 in Z1 and there isn't much point going that size anyway. They are more expensive and tyres are nearly identical. Most good quality performance 215/55 and 225/50 have the same tread width, but the 225/50 has slightly smaller diameter/lower wall.

Agree that 235/45 x 17 is not good on 7" wheels. Most good 235/45 need a 8" wheel for good grip and feel, and wider is preferable. If you drive very hard 8 1/2" or 9" will help tyres last longer on heavy cars but look a bit weird. With rubbish 235/45 wheel width probably doesn't matter. Its illegal but with zero grip the tyres just slide.

Cheers,
Alan

I tried for the Z1's in the 215/55/17 firstly but was told no joy. I think that BJ are (like you said) pushing their own barrow. They even had the audacity to try and tell me that their new BJ tyre was going to be the replacement they were going to sell for the Z1 and that they were just as good!! "COW COOKIES" I told them (or words to that effect). The name of the tyre was enough for me...."Xenon"!! Didn't anyone tell them that that badge had been worn to death on headlights? lol
I will definitely be trying harder for the 215/55's next time.

I tried for the Z1's in the 215/55/17 firstly but was told no joy. I think that BJ are (like you said) pushing their own barrow. They even had the audacity to try and tell me that their new BJ tyre was going to be the replacement they were going to sell for the Z1 and that they were just as good!! "COW COOKIES" I told them (or words to that effect). The name of the tyre was enough for me...."Xenon"!! Didn't anyone tell them that that badge had been worn to death on headlights? lol
I will definitely be trying harder for the 215/55's next time.

Have you tried phoning around a few different Bob Jane? Different stores get stock from different places it seems, or they have contacts or try harder to get what the customer wants, because some can supply tyres others supposedly can't/won't.

Cheers,
Alan

Have you tried phoning around a few different Bob Jane? Different stores get stock from different places it seems, or they have contacts or try harder to get what the customer wants, because some can supply tyres others supposedly can't/won't.

Cheers,
Alan

I have found that out when I got the Z1's for my Subaru. I will def chase harder next time.
Thanks mate

Just a quick question, I have Good Year LS2000 215/55/R17 on, but I have found they only lasted about 12000k's at a cost of about $250 a wheel,which I think is pritty rubbish. I am after somthing a little more hard wearing. Anything not over expencive (not more than I am already paying) and also where can i get them from. I found with the LS2000's i can only get them from Good Year outlets.

Cheers

P.S. Just wanted to add I mainly travel around town with some highway trips up to Sydney etc if this helps

Give the Michelins a run, comfortable and quiet, a few places get different prices, I think Jax gets em direct.
MXV8's Should be well under 200 a corner.

What you'd expect from a premium tyre, not premium performance. Expect 35-45 around town, more from Highway. The difference from the OEM tyre is amazing, very comfortable for a 55/17. I will get these again.

Just a quick question, I have Good Year LS2000 215/55/R17 on, but I have found they only lasted about 12000k's at a cost of about $250 a wheel,which I think is pritty rubbish. I am after somthing a little more hard wearing. Anything not over expencive (not more than I am already paying) and also where can i get them from. I found with the LS2000's i can only get them from Good Year outlets.

Cheers

P.S. Just wanted to add I mainly travel around town with some highway trips up to Sydney etc if this helps

Depends on what you are after. Is it grip or wear? This will change the answers you get. 12000K is really bad!! Are they meant to be a grippy tyre?
IF IT ONLY SAVES YOU ONCE A YEAR, IT'S A GOODYEAR. MOST TYRES SAVE YOU MORE THAN THAT!!!

Depends on what you are after. Is it grip or wear? This will change the answers you get. 12000K is really bad!! Are they meant to be a grippy tyre?
IF IT ONLY SAVES YOU ONCE A YEAR, IT'S A GOODYEAR. MOST TYRES SAVE YOU MORE THAN THAT!!!

12000kms is really bad? We only used to get 5000kms on our Toyo's.:eek2:

Just a quick question, I have Good Year LS2000 215/55/R17 on, but I have found they only lasted about 12000k's at a cost of about $250 a wheel,which I think is pritty rubbish. I am after somthing a little more hard wearing. Anything not over expencive (not more than I am already paying) and also where can i get them from. I found with the LS2000's i can only get them from Good Year outlets.

Cheers

P.S. Just wanted to add I mainly travel around town with some highway trips up to Sydney etc if this helps

The LS2000 isn't a grippy high performance tyre so 12,000 km is very poor. If wheel alignment and tyre pressures were correct then normal fast driving they should have lasted 35,000 at least. The early tyres were made in Japan. Were your's from there or Chinese Goodyears?

Maxxis MA-Z1 are about the best for cost(around $180), excellent wet performance and long life but can be a bit hard to find.

Cheers,
Alan

12000kms is really bad? We only used to get 5000kms on our Toyo's.:eek2:

I didn't know that 380s were used in drifting lol. 5000k is really low mileage out of a Proxes4!! I have them in a 50 series on mine and they arent wearing that bad at all. You must have been hammering them eh?

I didn't know that 380s were used in drifting lol. 5000k is really low mileage out of a Proxes4!! I have them in a 50 series on mine and they arent wearing that bad at all. You must have been hammering them eh?

Can you drift in a front wheel drive car? That'd be good to see... a drifting 380!

I didn't know that 380s were used in drifting lol. 5000k is really low mileage out of a Proxes4!! I have them in a 50 series on mine and they arent wearing that bad at all. You must have been hammering them eh?

WILD OVER STEER BUDDY!!....Nah just we are running a wicked camber on the rears, so half the tyre is screwed other half is pretty much fine!!

WILD OVER STEER BUDDY!!....Nah just we are running a wicked camber on the rears, so half the tyre is screwed other half is pretty much fine!!
Damn thats expensive! Why so much camber? Do you rotate front to rear at all?

Damn thats expensive! Why so much camber? Do you rotate front to rear at all?

Coz of how big the rims are. Im looking at getting a new set of camber arms made up tho which will bring the amber back to normal...may have to do SOME guard rolling tho. Yeah we rotate them fairly regularly actually. Its just the camber that kills them. Oh well...its the price I pay for having 22"s.

Coz of how big the rims are. Im looking at getting a new set of camber arms made up tho which will bring the amber back to normal...may have to do SOME guard rolling tho. Yeah we rotate them fairly regularly actually. Its just the camber that kills them. Oh well...its the price I pay for having 22"s.

The new camber arms should pay for themselves pretty quickly at the rate you are going thru 22" tyres my friend!!

The new camber arms should pay for themselves pretty quickly at the rate you are going thru 22" tyres my friend!!

Tell me bout it mate...its killing me.

Tell me bout it mate...its killing me.

and you still went for the 22"? Me thinks me rename you McMasochist lol!

and you still went for the 22"? Me thinks me rename you McMasochist lol!

Ok...MC stands for Matt & Carol. HAHAHA...
Anywho...yeah ofcouse we did. Once you go 22"s you dont go smaller....if anything we would have gone BIGGER...but that would just be crazy!!

Ive just ordered myself a set of Kumho Ecsta KU36 in 235/45/18 for about $250 per tyre. They get fitted wednesday, im assured they have awesome grip, will see how many kay's i get :D

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Quick update on the Kumho KU36.

After 1800k's, very little has worn down, 1-2mm at worst (Which is good for such a soft tyre). AT this point im sort of expecting 10,000k's out of them.

Gave them a good thrashing on Saturday around some good on and off camber twisties, had no problem with squeal, screeching, under, or over steer, and i was easily holding 20-30% more speed through the corners than on the maxxis ma-z1 i had previously, and i believe there was more to give. The grip is just phenomenal. Had a couple of corners with a tightening radius on the exit, and they held without problem under full 3rd gear acceleration.

The only "issue" (for want of a better word); with sharp/steep downhill corners, i could literally smell the rubber burning off these babies! Admittedly, by this point they would have been extremely hot (too hot to touch), and i was pushing very hard. Perhaps the heat coupled with the extra weight shift over the front wheels heading downhill was the problem. Either way, after a few corners i decided to hold back and take it easy on the downhill section.

All in all, and excellent bang for your buck tyre, we'll just have to wait and see what the overall mileage is like.

Quick update on the Kumho KU36.

After 1800k's, very little has worn down, 1-2mm at worst (Which is good for such a soft tyre). AT this point im sort of expecting 10,000k's out of them.

Gave them a good thrashing on Saturday around some good on and off camber twisties, had no problem with squeal, screeching, under, or over steer, and i was easily holding 20-30% more speed through the corners than on the maxxis ma-z1 i had previously, and i believe there was more to give. The grip is just phenomenal. Had a couple of corners with a tightening radius on the exit, and they held without problem under full 3rd gear acceleration.

The only "issue" (for want of a better word); with sharp/steep downhill corners, i could literally smell the rubber burning off these babies! Admittedly, by this point they would have been extremely hot (too hot to touch), and i was pushing very hard. Perhaps the heat coupled with the extra weight shift over the front wheels heading downhill was the problem. Either way, after a few corners i decided to hold back and take it easy on the downhill section.

All in all, and excellent bang for your buck tyre, we'll just have to wait and see what the overall mileage is like.
Would you have the same trouble with a lot of highway driving, especially driving from the Sunshine Coast to the Gold Coast and at a constant speed, the tyre wouldnt really have anytime to cool down.

Would you have the same trouble with a lot of highway driving, especially driving from the Sunshine Coast to the Gold Coast and at a constant speed, the tyre wouldnt really have anytime to cool down.
Not to sure. Im going in for a rotation tomorrow to check out how they're going. Thing is, after highway driving, they are hot to touch, but you can leave your hand on there. After a good run on some twisties up the coast here last week, i touched them as soon as i got out of the car and nearly burnt my hand! So it appears they dont get too hot unless you get to some corners

Not to sure. Im going in for a rotation tomorrow to check out how they're going. Thing is, after highway driving, they are hot to touch, but you can leave your hand on there. After a good run on some twisties up the coast here last week, i touched them as soon as i got out of the car and nearly burnt my hand! So it appears they dont get too hot unless you get to some corners

And while they are under load.:happy:

The KU36 is in a totally different class to the MA-Z1's and can't be and shouldn't be compared as such with them. After you have worn those out (and if you still want to run that semi track sort of tyre) try the Federal 595 RS-R. Again you wont get the wear out of them that you will out of a road tyre like the Maxxis, but the dry grip levels will leave you with a smile on your face. They should out perform the Kuhmos in the wet as well, but remember that these are not strictly road tyres although they are able to be legally used on the road.

cheers!

The KU36 is in a totally different class to the MA-Z1's and can't be and shouldn't be compared as such with them. After you have worn those out (and if you still want to run that semi track sort of tyre) try the Federal 595 RS-R. Again you wont get the wear out of them that you will out of a road tyre like the Maxxis, but the dry grip levels will leave you with a smile on your face. They should out perform the Kuhmos in the wet as well, but remember that these are not strictly road tyres although they are able to be legally used on the road.

cheers!
I Wasnt making a comparison based on class of tyre, i was making a comparison based on cost, as there is very little difference in price between the two (about $30 ea). I figure thats a good way to make a comparison as most people buy on price rather than "class".
You'll find there are other people out there, such as myself, who only get about 15-20k out of their tyres, and would prefer, like me, to pay a little more $, get a little less km, and have much more fun in the mean time.

I Wasnt making a comparison based on class of tyre, i was making a comparison based on cost, as there is very little difference in price between the two (about $30 ea). I figure thats a good way to make a comparison as most people buy on price rather than "class".
You'll find there are other people out there, such as myself, who only get about 15-20k out of their tyres, and would prefer, like me, to pay a little more $, get a little less km, and have much more fun in the mean time.

Oh heck yeah I used to be like that too, but now have a different set of parameters to work by. Still have a look at the federals and see what you think. Not sure what the price comparison is. Let me know when you have a run in the rain on the Kuhmos too. Tread carefully at first grasshopper!! lol

Oh heck yeah I used to be like that too, but now have a different set of parameters to work by. Still have a look at the federals and see what you think. Not sure what the price comparison is. Let me know when you have a run in the rain on the Kuhmos too. Tread carefully at first grasshopper!! lol

There is about $50 difference in the rrp of the federals to the kumho. Bugger all if you ask me. Ill give them a try when these run out :)
As for wet weather driving, i'll never know how good they are as i dont do silly stuff in the wet ;)



Would you have the same trouble with a lot of highway driving, especially driving from the Sunshine Coast to the Gold Coast and at a constant speed, the tyre wouldnt really have anytime to cool down.

After talking with the guys at BJT, at highway speeds they will wear no differently to any other tyre, same as average round town stuff. However, once under load, the will heat up dramatically and get shredded by the bitumen as the compound gets very soft and sticky when at optimal track temperature.

I will have to disagree with BJT on this and would argue this face to face. You are running a tyre that has alot softer compound than your average tyre. Take for instance the Maxxis MA-Z1 which is quite a respectable road tyre for grip has a UTQG of 280 .The Kuhmo KU 36 is at 180 and a semi track tyre such as the Federal 595 RS-R is down around 140. You get some tyres upwards of 600. Basically the lower the number the softer the tyre (or if you wanted to be more techo it relates to treadwear eg the lower the number the quicker the tyre wears) The other indicators on the UTQG relate to temperature and traction but that is a whole different story. The fact of the matter is no matter how careful you are driving, regardless of the road, a softer tyre will wear more than a harder tyre. This is simple physics. Granted you will get alot more out of them if you are doing highway k's but lets face it, that is not why you get a tyre like this is it? I have often heard a lot of rubbish being spoken by people who sell tyres and this is unfortunate. I am not meaning to be demeaning at all rather to set straight a falsehood.
Cheers
Sorry edit: UTQG = Uniform Tyre Quality Grading which was developed to set a standard for tyre manufactures for comparison.

380matey, I'll agree only to a point. We have Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 on our Ralliart Colt which are a better and softer tyre again than the Kuhmo or Federals. They've done 22,000kms, mind you the car doesn't get driven hard, and they look to have at least another 10-15k in them yet. I would argue that driving normally with a soft compound tyre, you will still get good KMS out of them. 30-35k is what you'd expect from your average Maxxis or Pirelli whatevers. It's all down to how you drive.

380matey, I'll agree only to a point. We have Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 on our Ralliart Colt which are a better and softer tyre again than the Kuhmo or Federals. They've done 22,000kms, mind you the car doesn't get driven hard, and they look to have at least another 10-15k in them yet. I would argue that driving normally with a soft compound tyre, you will still get good KMS out of them. 30-35k is what you'd expect from your average Maxxis or Pirelli whatevers. It's all down to how you drive.

Like many things it does come down to driver and driving style, but what car you have and what size rolling diameter or overall circumference has a bearing as well. A smaller diameter setup will have more revolutions to achieve the same distance as a larger diameter.
To this end some manufacturers put a higher treadwear compound on their smaller tyres to achieve the same mileage. Again this depends on the tyre and manufacturer.
You will get alot better mileage out of your grippy tyres ifyou dont drive them hard and do alot of highway mileage, but they will wear quicker than, say, a higher number tyre. That is the whole point of testing them universally, so that you get an idea of the wear on the tyre. These tests are done under controlled conditions so that exact comparisons between tyres can be achieved.
Your tyre the AD07 like the newer AD08 is rated at 180 which is identical to the Kuhmo but higher than the Federal. The k's you are getting out of these are very good. You would be the exception rather than the rule. Have you ever had them out for a track day? What size are they and the manufacturing date on them? What are they like in heavy wet conditions?

Like many things it does come down to driver and driving style, but what car you have and what size rolling diameter or overall circumference has a bearing as well. A smaller diameter setup will have more revolutions to achieve the same distance as a larger diameter.
To this end some manufacturers put a higher treadwear compound on their smaller tyres to achieve the same mileage. Again this depends on the tyre and manufacturer.
You will get alot better mileage out of your grippy tyres ifyou dont drive them hard and do alot of highway mileage, but they will wear quicker than, say, a higher number tyre. That is the whole point of testing them universally, so that you get an idea of the wear on the tyre. These tests are done under controlled conditions so that exact comparisons between tyres can be achieved.
Your tyre the AD07 like the newer AD08 is rated at 180 which is identical to the Kuhmo but higher than the Federal. The k's you are getting out of these are very good. You would be the exception rather than the rule. Have you ever had them out for a track day? What size are they and the manufacturing date on them? What are they like in heavy wet conditions?

I think the Federal 595 are in the same league as the AD07, but not as good, and certainly not as good as AD08. AD07 and AD08 now have been Japans tyre of the year, and the tyre of choice for all competition cars ranging from Ralliart Colts and Suzuki Swift Sport, right through to highly modified EVOs, GT-R's and NSX's.

Never had the AD07 on a track day. I've heard and read they're quite good tho. On the RColt they're 205/45/R16, unsure of date, probably when the car was made back in 2006 and they're suprisingly good in the wet. Better than the Michellin Pilot Preceda PP2's on my Evo.

I think the Federal 595 are in the same league as the AD07, but not as good, and certainly not as good as AD08. AD07 and AD08 now have been Japans tyre of the year, and the tyre of choice for all competition cars ranging from Ralliart Colts and Suzuki Swift Sport, right through to highly modified EVOs, GT-R's and NSX's.

Never had the AD07 on a track day. I've heard and read they're quite good tho. On the RColt they're 205/45/R16, unsure of date, probably when the car was made back in 2006 and they're suprisingly good in the wet. Better than the Michellin Pilot Preceda PP2's on my Evo.
The Yokos sure have an excellent pedigree with their semi track tyres. I have run them on several cars in the past and been very happy with them. I don't think that they would be near the price of the Federals though. I almost bought a set of 595 RS-R 205/50/16 for our subaru for $145 each (not fitted) but piked out as my wife drives the car mostly and I couldn't be sure of how they behaved in the wet. Not willing to risk wife and son on that. If I was driving it, different story. Experience does count for a lot and semi track tyres can be temperamental critters in the wet. I have to make a decision soon though as the tread wear indicators are getting close. I am looking at the 595's (not RS-R) as an option on the 380 as they do them in a 225/50/17 :facejump: still heaps on the Proxes 4's though.

I had AD07 on my Evo when I bought it too. They were quite worn down tho. I remember on about the second day I had the car it was pouring rain and you would be suprised how easy the back end came round under only the slightest bit of power. Once they get old they are not very good. They're never going to be as good as a normal road tyre either in the wet - that's the trade off. I can't remember how much the RColt boys were getting the AD07 for in 205/45/16 but it wasn't much more than $145 a corner. I'll have a look when I get home as I can't get on the RColt forums at work.

Cool. Would be interested. Also when you bought them too.

Cheers

im after new tyres for the ford, what do you guys think is a good tyre for about $400/corner, 19/35/245. im thinking something fairly soft, good grip, FALKEN 452? BRIDGESTONE POTENZA?

edit, something good in the wet! the big girl likes to step out without much warning :eek2:

im after new tyres for the ford, what do you guys think is a good tyre for about $400/corner, 19/35/245. im thinking something fairly soft, good grip, FALKEN 452? BRIDGESTONE POTENZA?

edit, something good in the wet! the big girl likes to step out without much warning :eek2:

You're pretty limited in the dry if you want something that's good in the wet. All the soft compound tyres that are really good in the dry are not as good as a more wet weather oriented tyre, eg. Goodyear Eagle F1 very good in the wet, but won't compare to an AD08 in the dry.

Dry tyre in 245/35/19 Yokohama Advan Neova AD08 - they make a 245/35/19 with load rating of 89W. 255/35/19 with load rating of 92W.

Wet tyre, probably Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline RE001 or Goodyear Eagle F1. There's always going to be a trade off.

what sort of prices am i looking at for what you mentioned?

ive had adrenalines before for a little while until i sold the magna to woody, loved them. theyre around $400 from memory

would you get semi slicks for the rear if you were in my shoes? 373kwatw in a rwd can be a handful.... or just good all round tyres

what sort of prices am i looking at for what you mentioned?

ive had adrenalines before for a little while until i sold the magna to woody, loved them. theyre around $400 from memory

would you get semi slicks for the rear if you were in my shoes? 373kwatw in a rwd can be a handful.... or just good all round tyres

It's ultimately your decision. I don't have to worry about traction issues in the wet with AWD. :P

Price wise, you'll need to ring a dealer. Tyres and More can order them in if there's one near you. Use this locator... http://yokohama.com.au/dealerlocator/index.aspx. I think for 245/40/18's for my Evo were going to be like $380 each.

Like I said, 200kwatw in an AWD car with all the gizmos my car has compared to 370 odd at the rear treads on a Falcon is worlds apart, but personally I will never go back to a normal street tyre. My next tyres will be AD08's. The grip levels in the dry will simply blow your mind. They won't last long tho. I would look at what the yanks do with their high powered RWD Fords and Chevs - they all use DR's, so that's telling you something. Just be real careful in the wet!

It's ultimately your decision. I don't have to worry about traction issues in the wet with AWD. :P

Price wise, you'll need to ring a dealer. Tyres and More can order them in if there's one near you. Use this locator... http://yokohama.com.au/dealerlocator/index.aspx. I think for 245/40/18's for my Evo were going to be like $380 each.

Like I said, 200kwatw in an AWD car with all the gizmos my car has compared to 370 odd at the rear treads on a Falcon is worlds apart, but personally I will never go back to a normal street tyre. My next tyres will be AD08's. The grip levels in the dry will simply blow your mind. They won't last long tho. I would look at what the yanks do with their high powered RWD Fords and Chevs - they all use DR's, so that's telling you something. Just be real careful in the wet!

yeah in the wet i try and drive my other car whenever possible

cheers for the advise, ill ring around tomorrow

Personally I wouldn't get semis for a road car with rwd and that much feeding out the rear. They can be unpredictable at best in the wet. You may find yourself parked into the scenery in the wet wondering what the hell happened on the semis. What sort of ford do you have (sedan, ute etc). The Falkens have been around for a while and have proven themselves to be quite good, however they do take a while to get some heat into them before they grip up (according to my mate who runs them on his RX-8). Potenzas for my money are over priced and over rated. I haven't had a good look at what is around in 19" (only wish I had the $$ to put them on ) but for the $400 mark you should get a fair few choices.
Edit: I agree with Disciple with his comments.

Personally I wouldn't get semis for a road car with rwd and that much feeding out the rear. They can be unpredictable at best in the wet. You may find yourself parked into the scenery in the wet wondering what the hell happened on the semis. What sort of ford do you have (sedan, ute etc). The Falkens have been around for a while and have proven themselves to be quite good, however they do take a while to get some heat into them before they grip up (according to my mate who runs them on his RX-8). Potenzas for my money are over priced and over rated. I haven't had a good look at what is around in 19" (only wish I had the $$ to put them on ) but for the $400 mark you should get a fair few choices.

BA XR8 blown sedan.

BA XR8 blown sedan.

Yep that'll get 'em turnin and burnin!!

I run Falken 452s and have had no aquaplaning or issues with wet weather but, as Disciple has said, worlds apart in application compared to RWD 370KW +

I run Falken 452s and have had no aquaplaning or issues with wet weather but, as Disciple has said, worlds apart in application compared to RWD 370KW +

Do you find they need a bit of heating up to get grip levels up a bit? May be different on a heavier car.

Do you find they need a bit of heating up to get grip levels up a bit? May be different on a heavier car.

In the wet? Don't know - haven't had a sustained wet period to check that and where I live I drive for about 10mins before I need reasonable grip.

In the dry; I come out of work at Brisbane airport quite often after a night shift - car and tyres cold soaked - and launch straight into the roundabout near the tower for a 360 degree turn back out of the airport. I tip into this roundabout between 50-60kmh and have never had a loss of front or rear grip.

My Yokohamas are pretty average in the wet, so...best behaviour and road manners in the rain for me...

FYI, I run the older Eagle F1 GS-D3 and they stick like shit to a blanket in the dry and even better in the wet. Unfortunately you can no longer get these, they were replaced by the F1 ASYM which are not as good in the dry

FYI, I run the older Eagle F1 GS-D3 and they stick like shit to a blanket in the dry and even better in the wet. Unfortunately you can no longer get these, they were replaced by the F1 ASYM which are not as good in the dry
I hate that. You find a tyre that you really like and works well and they change it for a supposedly better one. I had that a while ago with a Dunlop (cant remember what type though but I have one as a spare in the Subi) and the replacement was nowhere near as good.
The price of the Goodyears tend to shy me off them. They have rated very well in all the tyre tests in years gone by, usually first followed by the Falken FK452, which is another regular on the top of the list. Unfortunately they only test tyres that the manufacturer have supplied and companies such as yokohama seem reluctant to supply anything for these tests. This is a great shame as there are alot of people out there that would like to see how all the top tyres rate side by side.


My Yokohamas are pretty average in the wet, so...best behaviour and road manners in the rain for me...

Mmm sounds like a typical semi lol!

im leaning towards yokohama S drives....... anyone had experience with these?

im leaning towards yokohama S drives....... anyone had experience with these?

I haven't driven on these but heard from a few people who have used them and thought they were pretty good. With Yoko's pedigree and where that tyre stands in their range (right at the top of the ultra road tyres) I would be very surprised if they didn't do the job admirally!! They are not super soft though at UTQG 300 AA/A .

OK guys need thought on wheels,will be in two different post (photos to big for 1)any input helpful as i like them both

Thanks guys

second ones are much nicer. plus hides the small brake rotors!:ninja: nice photochop btw... make sure you get big ones. no smaller than 19s.
the 380 wheel arches make tyres look small. lots of people have assumed mine are 19s or even 18s!

Yeah I tend to run with Stormie's opinion, my vote is with box "B" Eddie.

Yeah, go with the second ones. And in 19s! Plus do some lowering (if in your budget). After all that, you'll have a very nice looking car.

Yep only the first ones if you are going to get huge whopper stoppers.

Oh & as Stormie said go at least 19's if not 20's as I reckon my 19's still look like Tonka Wheels in those huge guards.

Yep only the first ones if you are going to get huge whopper stoppers.

Oh & as Stormie said go at least 19's if not 20's as I reckon my 19's still look like Tonka Wheels in those huge guards.

Yes... only MCHenry's 22s fill the 380 guards "just right". 19s would be the smallest you'd go, with 20s preferable.

Now im playing with my own mind , seen another one I liked(so many rims so little money),ANZ Taser , but looks like I may need to go 19" just to keep you guys happy LOL, but you are helping.

look like ralliarts enkei's

I like option b

Yeah like those second ones for sure!The third ones look nice too but would be a pain to keep clean.What tyre size you going for?

IF i go 18" 245/45/18,IF you guys change my mind 245/40/19 or 245/35/19 in Kumho ku19 or maybe ku31 not quite sure yet all depends on money!
This are a picture of the second rim

OK just to be contentious I will change my vote. I think option 3 looks the best. It is all personal opinion and really the only one that matters is yours.
PS how much are the rims in 18"?

option 3 are $295 from tyrepower, havent tried hunting better price yet

If you go for the 3rd ones just be weary that rims with a reasonable dish/lip always,in my opinion,seem to look smaller than a same sized wheel with a flat face/no lip at all. I know its just an illusion but I encountered it while shopping for wheels and its something to take into account. So that third set would have to be at least 19's to look the part whereas i reckon the 2nd set in 19 would be sweet!Oh and go for 245/40/19 if you can.

I like the 3rd one; in a large size they look great, BUT that design is a bastard to clean (one of many factors I considered when shopping for rims).

You must be really not into cleaning rims as you got the black ones!! lol

Thanks guy for your input,should get quote Monday for option 2 (Gmax Zion)and 3(ANZ Taser) in 19",will let you know which way I went as either one of the above I like, mrs likes the first one and as she is buying them for me (yes you heard right,birthday,fathers day combo) maybe might sway me

Thanks guy for your input,should get quote Monday for option 2 (Gmax Zion)and 3(ANZ Taser) in 19",will let you know which way I went as either one of the above I like, mrs likes the first one and as she is buying them for me (yes you heard right,birthday,fathers day combo) maybe might sway me

Lucky man! your wife got a sister by chance:woot:

Wow now that's what I call a fathers day present!!

Wow now that's what I call a fathers day present!!

Damn straight,

Yeah lucky. We had a fight over mine... (was worth it though).

Lucky man! your wife got a sister by chance:woot:

Yes and taken sorry

Yes and taken sorry

Ah well,don't think the wife would have approved anyway,although the dream lives on!

Hey Bitsa, just done a couple of quick measurements and I reckon my offset is about 42mm.Didnt take a wheel off so its not 100% but seeing as Blue had 35mm and had to fit a spacer to get inner clearance its sounds about right.I had alot of weight on the rear recently with a trailer,boot full etc and the outer arch was halfway down the sidewall and still no rubbing!

They have told me that the offset is 42 so shouldn't be a problem. oh and the wife probably relented so she didn't have to clean up all the catalogues all the time, but what a woman anyway!

They have told me that the offset is 42 so shouldn't be a problem. oh and the wife probably relented so she didn't have to clean up all the catalogues all the time, but what a woman anyway!

lol on first reading that i read it as "but whats a woman for anyway?" better not let the ladies read that one, almost as good as this weeks friday funnies!

Just got some new rims & tyres fitted today, 'bout time I upgraded the 18s to 19s.

After reading the endorsements for the Maxxis MA-Z1 Victra I decided to go with them, and Bob Jane has them on special at the moment, $249 a corner for the 245/35 ZR19 size.

Long story short, I swung a deal to go with slightly taller 245/40 ZR19s instead, for $40 a corner more than the 35 profile jobs (they are usually $60 a corner more). I wanted 40s for three reasons - fill the wheel arches better, slightly more comfy ride than 35s, and restore lost speedo accuacy (almost the same overall rolling diameter as stockers).

Bad move. The rears rubbed on the wheel arches, not to start with but as soon I put some weight in the back seat and boot (the old rims & tyres) and if I tried a hard right turn or any sort of reasonable acceleration (due to weight transfer to the rear I guess). Pretty much undrivable with any sort of weight in the rear, would have ripped them to shreds. After just two ks and a few turns there were already little bits getting ripped out.

So I had two choices - stick the old ones back on, get the rear guards rolled, then refit the new ones, or else try some other tyre size.

In the end the only feasible option was to go with the original idea - same tyre but in 245/35 ZR19.

So swapped them over, and no more rubbing. Just have to put up with the large wheel arch gaps and miles out speedo! And the dealer wouldn't give me a refund for the price difference (stupid me paid for them before testing them properly). Fair enough considering I cost him about three hours extra labour and probably ruined two tyres!

The moral of the story is that 245/40 ZR19s with Kings lows on the rear = insurmountable rubbing, unless you roll the rear guards, but no probs with 245/35 ZR19s.

Pics of the new rims tomorrow.

KJ.

Just got some new rims & tyres fitted today, 'bout time I upgraded the 18s to 19s.

After reading the endorsements for the Maxxis MA-Z1 Victra I decided to go with them, and Bob Jane has them on special at the moment, $249 a corner for the 245/35 ZR19 size.

Long story short, I swung a deal to go with slightly taller 245/40 ZR19s instead, for $40 a corner more than the 35 profile jobs (they are usually $60 a corner more). I wanted 40s for three reasons - fill the wheel arches better, slightly more comfy ride than 35s, and restore lost speedo accuacy (almost the same overall rolling diameter as stockers).

Bad move. The rears rubbed on the wheel arches, not to start with but as soon I put some weight in the back seat and boot (the old rims & tyres) and if I tried a hard right turn or any sort of reasonable acceleration (due to weight transfer to the rear I guess). Pretty much undrivable with any sort of weight in the rear, would have ripped them to shreds. After just two ks and a few turns there were already little bits getting ripped out.

So I had two choices - stick the old ones back on, get the rear guards rolled, then refit the new ones, or else try some other tyre size.

In the end the only feasible option was to go with the original idea - same tyre but in 245/35 ZR19.

So swapped them over, and no more rubbing. Just have to put up with the large wheel arch gaps and miles out speedo! And the dealer wouldn't give me a refund for the price difference (stupid me paid for them before testing them properly). Fair enough considering I cost him about three hours extra labour and probably ruined two tyres!

The moral of the story is that 245/40 ZR19s with Kings lows on the rear = insurmountable rubbing, unless you roll the rear guards, but no probs with 245/35 ZR19s.

Pics of the new rims tomorrow.

KJ.

I have 245/35/19s on mine & I did get some rubbing when I hit a huge dump or dip at speed. (Bottoming suspension) You might want to try that before you say all is good. Guess it depends on the tyre as some have rounded edges (more clearance) & some are very square (like my Yokies). I rolled the guards slightly myself as it didn't need much at all to clear the tyres.

Fooz,

Yep, good advice, I haven't yet gone over any big dips at speed.

The Maxxis MA-Z1 looks like a 'semi-square' edge - not round, but not as square as some I've seen - so I'm guessing they may hit/rub on a big dip.

How did you roll the guards 'slightly' yourself? From what I can see it shouldn't be too hard, and I'm willing to have a go if it doesn't take special tools or skills.

KJ.

Out of curiosity do you know the rim offset,the ones I'm looking at are supposedly 42mm.Thanks for heads up to prob might get them to fit them first check for rubbing and make decision from there, the main diff is that mine is not lowered yet and am looking to go just with lows all round so that might help also.

Breaks your heart when you touch a gutter with these 19in rims.....

Easy to get a chunk of rubber dangling loose by pinching the rims....

Fooz,

Yep, good advice, I haven't yet gone over any big dips at speed.

The Maxxis MA-Z1 looks like a 'semi-square' edge - not round, but not as square as some I've seen - so I'm guessing they may hit/rub on a big dip.

How did you roll the guards 'slightly' yourself? From what I can see it shouldn't be too hard, and I'm willing to have a go if it doesn't take special tools or skills.

KJ.

It doesn't need much if any as the wheels tuck in as the suspension goes down. I used a pair of multigrips with tape over the jaws so it didn't mark the paint & worked my way back & forth until I had enough roll for clearance.

Thats a bummer KJ, I'm running the 40 series with no probs.They were rubbing on the outer arch you say ?,or the inner guard. If its the outer I reckon you should have paid to get them rolled,if its the inner then a small spacer would have done,you would have been way happy with the result.would be interested to know your offset also,seems about the 42 mark is a safe bet for a good fit.Which bob jane did you go to?

As I recall, that's exactly what happened to Blue380 when he fitted 40 series tyres to his 19s. He rolled the guards, then raised the rear springs.

witewalzs,

They were rubbing on the inside edge of the outer arch, if you know what I mean. There is a one or two mm step or lip around the inner top edge of the arch, so a spacer would not only not have helped, it would have made things worse.

Not sure about the offset but I think it is 42, and it was the BJs on the corner of Pulteney & Flinders Sts in the city.

KJ.

When i went for the new rims on our car. We were told by a couple of places that the 380 offset is 46mm. We have 245/30/R22. As Foozrcool said we get some WILD rubbing when we hit a dip at high speeds even with the guards being cut. I found that they are rubbing on the screw that holds the bumper to the guard. Easy solution was to get rid of the screw!

witewalzs,

They were rubbing on the inside edge of the outer arch, if you know what I mean. There is a one or two mm step or lip around the inner top edge of the arch, so a spacer would not only not have helped, it would have made things worse.

Not sure about the offset but I think it is 42, and it was the BJs on the corner of Pulteney & Flinders Sts in the city.

KJ.

Yeah I get ya, needed to be rolled them.How ugly are those wheel arches anyway with that join and all, stands out like dog balls,not sure why they ended up like that but im gonna paint mine matt black to hide them seeing as i didn't roll mine. Me thinks their more than 42,could you find out for sure ,as Iam about mine as it would help out others thinking of fitting wheels and lowering with an answer once and for all.Blue had 35's and fitted a 15mm spacer for a rub free ride but i think he rolled his guards as Grubco suggested?Mchenry could be on the money with that 46 maybe?

according to the glovebox book thingo:
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3131/mitsubook.jpg

according to the glovebox book thingo:
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3131/mitsubook.jpg

Here we all are wondering which what and where and all this time its in that glovebox book thingy,lol.

Hi all. Speaking of tyres and rims whats up with the spare wheel being speed limited, mine has a sticker on the rim.

possibly a different rolling diameter to the others. according to that scan, its only speed limited on models with 17" rims with the 16" steel spare.

Just got some new rims & tyres fitted today, 'bout time I upgraded the 18s to 19s.

After reading the endorsements for the Maxxis MA-Z1 Victra I decided to go with them, and Bob Jane has them on special at the moment, $249 a corner for the 245/35 ZR19 size.

Long story short, I swung a deal to go with slightly taller 245/40 ZR19s instead, for $40 a corner more than the 35 profile jobs (they are usually $60 a corner more). I wanted 40s for three reasons - fill the wheel arches better, slightly more comfy ride than 35s, and restore lost speedo accuacy (almost the same overall rolling diameter as stockers).

Bad move. The rears rubbed on the wheel arches, not to start with but as soon I put some weight in the back seat and boot (the old rims & tyres) and if I tried a hard right turn or any sort of reasonable acceleration (due to weight transfer to the rear I guess). Pretty much undrivable with any sort of weight in the rear, would have ripped them to shreds. After just two ks and a few turns there were already little bits getting ripped out.

So I had two choices - stick the old ones back on, get the rear guards rolled, then refit the new ones, or else try some other tyre size.

In the end the only feasible option was to go with the original idea - same tyre but in 245/35 ZR19.

So swapped them over, and no more rubbing. Just have to put up with the large wheel arch gaps and miles out speedo! And the dealer wouldn't give me a refund for the price difference (stupid me paid for them before testing them properly). Fair enough considering I cost him about three hours extra labour and probably ruined two tyres!

The moral of the story is that 245/40 ZR19s with Kings lows on the rear = insurmountable rubbing, unless you roll the rear guards, but no probs with 245/35 ZR19s.

Pics of the new rims tomorrow.

KJ.

Pics as promised.

The rims are RJR Vogue. Photos probably don't do them justice. Dark grey inner/spokes, polished alloy outer/rims.
Not my first choice, but they were going on super special at $150 a corner cheaper than what I had my eye on, and the more I looked at them the more they grew on me.

They look sweet KJ! Looking at that third shot you see what I mean by ugly wheel arches,what were they think'n? Its like they needed to be rolled from factory!

according to the glovebox book thingo:
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3131/mitsubook.jpg

Thats kinda funny,and I feel kinda dopey!lol

The mitsubishi logo centres definitely finish the car off nicer....

The mitsubishi logo centres definitely finish the car off nicer....

Blackstar,

I agree.

Any idea where I could get mitsi logo centre caps from?

KJ.

Pics as promised.

The rims are RJR Vogue. Photos probably don't do them justice. Dark grey inner/spokes, polished alloy outer/rims.
Not my first choice, but they were going on super special at $150 a corner cheaper than what I had my eye on, and the more I looked at them the more they grew on me.

They go well with the car. What size rims were they? What size are your Z1's and how much were they?

They go well with the car. What size rims were they? What size are your Z1's and how much were they?

Matey,

Rims are 19" x 8.5".

Tyres are 245/35 ZR19, and are on special at BJs at the moment for $249 each. Through to the end of this month I think.

But I ended up paying $289 each for them, see earlier post about probs with 245/40 ZR19s.

KJ.

Blackstar,

I agree.

Any idea where I could get mitsi logo centre caps from?

KJ.

Wheelworx where I got mine from have got some made up for me.Think I've seen them on ebay too!Generally there just decals that stick to the cap.

Got a mirror out and found some writing on the back of my wheels as regards to size, load rating and what i reckon is the offset.Says ET 45 . Measured with a better tape and looks to be correct so its near as damn to factory. So Bitsa if you can get your wheels at that offset then you will beable to fit the 40 series you want with no rubbing or rolling of the guards required .:thumbsup:

Wheelworx where I got mine from have got some made up for me.Think I've seen them on ebay too!Generally there just decals that stick to the cap.

Yep, found 'em here http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4x-55MM-Mitsubishi-Logo-Wheel-Center-Sticker-Badges_W0QQitemZ170383050715QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27ab9f07db&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 on Fleabay, looks like the right size (I measured), stuck a bid in for a huge $5.00.

KJ.

Yep, found 'em here http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4x-55MM-Mitsubishi-Logo-Wheel-Center-Sticker-Badges_W0QQitemZ170383050715QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27ab9f07db&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 on Fleabay, looks like the right size (I measured), stuck a bid in for a huge $5.00.

KJ.

:thumbsup:

Got a mirror out and found some writing on the back of my wheels as regards to size, load rating and what i reckon is the offset.Says ET 45 . Measured with a better tape and looks to be correct so its near as damn to factory. So Bitsa if you can get your wheels at that offset then you will beable to fit the 40 series you want with no rubbing or rolling of the guards required .:thumbsup:

Thanks mate. yes the ET is the offset. D-day tommorrow

Blackstar,

I agree.

Any idea where I could get mitsi logo centre caps from?

KJ.

I got mine from www.tmraustralia.com.au

Speaking of tyres, the guy over at bob janes is trying to sell me a sakura S2008 tyre, but I've never heard of the brand before, and can't find any reference to them online.

Anyone know anything about them, or the brand?