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Tonba
25-08-2008, 10:49 AM
Get this damn thing on the road!!
*lol*
Looking forward to movie's, sound files, etc.
Nice work!
Gerard
25-08-2008, 11:24 AM
it's been almost a year since you have had this engine.. :P
Nemesis
25-08-2008, 11:27 AM
The kind of air intake Tuffy has is a SRI or Short Ram Intake. Looks the biz!
Lucifer
25-08-2008, 11:32 AM
The kind of air intake Tuffy has is a SRI or Short Ram Intake. Looks the biz!
Looks pretty long to me... RAM is a straight pipe from throttle body onto a scoop or funnel-style trumpet in the grille... This is just CAI.
Nemesis
25-08-2008, 11:35 AM
I stand corrected! Touche!:D
']http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/P8230662.jpg
still haven't learned to move ur wallet to another place aye? lol
cars looking the goods man
Lucifer
25-08-2008, 02:17 PM
still haven't learned to move ur wallet to another place aye? lol
cars looking the goods man
His wallet isn't even in that photo... :confused:
His wallet isn't even in that photo... :confused:
near the drivers wiper arm.. unless that's not his wallet....
EDIT: i think ur right... don't think that's a wallet anymore, oops :redface:
GT-Pete
25-08-2008, 03:25 PM
near the drivers wiper arm.. unless that's not his wallet....
EDIT: i think ur right... don't think that's a wallet anymore, oops :redface:
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: Its a pocket tool thingy.....
[TUFFTR]
25-08-2008, 04:06 PM
it's been almost a year since you have had this engine.. :P
Riceing engines takes time my friend.
Also not as easy to just go buy engine > put into car > make work in a week.
Takes time ;)
NOW, Who knows what and where the inhibitor switch is :D
Unless i cut it out :bowrofl:
Mrmacomouto
25-08-2008, 04:15 PM
']Riceing engines takes time my friend.
Also not as easy to just go buy engine > put into car > make work in a week.
Takes time ;)
NOW, Who knows what and where the inhibitor switch is :D
Unless i cut it out :bowrofl:
Who will accept the challenge?
Screamin TE
25-08-2008, 04:17 PM
inhibitor switch is probably within the transmission. Stops you from starting the car in any position but p or n on an auto. Some manuals have them and they are on the clutch pedal.
you could always re-locate yours there. i know as a habit i always put my foot on my clutch when i start my cars.
LeGiOnAiR
25-08-2008, 04:29 PM
Less ricing, more engine which creates wheelspin and blows V8s.
Hurry up paully, Ill be back in NZ before this motor is done lol
Lucifer
25-08-2008, 04:33 PM
Less ricing, more engine which creates wheelspin and blows V8s.
Hurry up paully, Ill be back in NZ before this motor is done lol
Paul blows the drivers of V8's :bowrofl:
Inhibitor switch is indeed part of transmission :)
[TUFFTR]
25-08-2008, 04:43 PM
Paul blows the drivers of V8's :bowrofl:
Inhibitor switch is indeed part of transmission :)
:bowrofl: Up yoursssssss
Aight so Luke, I got the plug coming off the transmission with 2 wires.
Any idea where that goes.
millert85
26-08-2008, 08:51 PM
u got a manual going in dont you? a plug with 2 wires will be ur reverse light switch.
Lucifer
26-08-2008, 08:59 PM
u got a manual going in dont you? a plug with 2 wires will be ur reverse light switch.
Yeah thought so... word :cool:
MicJaiy
26-08-2008, 09:19 PM
Paul blows the drivers of V8's :bowrofl:
He tries but I falcon punch him in the jaw before he gets a chance....
[TUFFTR]
27-08-2008, 05:06 AM
u got a manual going in dont you? a plug with 2 wires will be ur reverse light switch.
Ok...
I seriously have no idea about how to wire this in, does this just mean one is power to reverse lights and one is ground?
Lucifer
27-08-2008, 06:10 AM
']Ok...
I seriously have no idea about how to wire this in, does this just mean one is power to reverse lights and one is ground?
Doubt it... Probably a relay trigger.
[TUFFTR]
29-08-2008, 04:39 PM
Doubt it... Probably a relay trigger.
I'll suss it out mate
In other news, $12 of exhaust spacers (Were $6 each) managed to be enough to clear the pipe that goes under the sump by 4mm
So the exhaust is bolted up (Not bad for $12..) but will still need to be cut and lengthened just to give it some more clearance.
It's almost finished. I'd say two weeks and we should hear a sound clip. Either a sound clip of the car starting to me setting it alight, we'll see which one soon :D
If you choose to set it on fire, dibs on your speakers and amps before you do it :D
kthxbai
Have you wired your fogs up on a switch this time? I was thinking if you haven't yet, maybe get a Cruise button from a KR or KS at the wreckers and wire it into that, so it looks factory?
[TUFFTR]
29-08-2008, 05:04 PM
If you choose to set it on fire, dibs on your speakers and amps before you do it :D
kthxbai
Have you wired your fogs up on a switch this time? I was thinking if you haven't yet, maybe get a Cruise button from a KR or KS at the wreckers and wire it into that, so it looks factory?
Why would I want anything to look factory:bowrofl: And they were already wired to a switch, just a crap one.
I'll do all audio interior crap after the cars working. Rather spend my time on that then on putting a sub box in.
And nah if i burn it it all goes up.
Boozer
29-08-2008, 05:39 PM
can i be the one that throws the match on it after you cover it in petrol ??? :D
[TUFFTR]
29-08-2008, 05:40 PM
can i be the one that throws the match on it after you cover it in petrol ??? :D
Yeah why not! :doubt:
GT-Pete
03-09-2008, 10:35 AM
More pics of your CAI setup please!
Where is your MAF sensor????
I had the problem of the pipes resting on the gearbox shift mechanism too...
More pics of your CAI setup please!
Where is your MAF sensor????
I had the problem of the pipes resting on the gearbox shift mechanism too...
No MAF, he has an Adaptronic aftermarket ECU, Australian designed, created and I THINK made too ;) good work paul.
His CAI is so rice that it makes me want to poop myself. Paul, just take that setup off, take it to an exhaust shop and get them to mandrel bend a copy in stainless, will look a LOT better and wont fall apart as soon as you start the car.
[TUFFTR]
03-09-2008, 03:00 PM
No MAF, he has an Adaptronic aftermarket ECU, Australian designed, created and I THINK made too ;) good work paul.
His CAI is so rice that it makes me want to poop myself. Paul, just take that setup off, take it to an exhaust shop and get them to mandrel bend a copy in stainless, will look a LOT better and wont fall apart as soon as you start the car.
I like the look of this one :P
I'm not made of money so this will do.
My whole car is rice so it just blends in = I dont care much about it
Gerard
04-09-2008, 07:31 AM
whats the joke with the 'Adaptronic aftermarket ECU' ??
is this something paul made from milk cartons?
-lynel-
05-09-2008, 03:40 AM
good work paul as in great to keep business in australia; australian owned and made. The ecu's are very versatile
whats the joke with the 'Adaptronic aftermarket ECU' ??
is this something paul made from milk cartons?
Dude.. www.adaptronic.com.au
Paul, you gonna go an wide band A/F sensor instead of the factory narrow band? Would be handy in every single aspect inc tuning without having to have an external clipped onto the tip of your, no doubt, shiny muffler.
[TUFFTR]
05-09-2008, 05:03 AM
Dude.. www.adaptronic.com.au
Paul, you gonna go an wide band A/F sensor instead of the factory narrow band? Would be handy in every single aspect inc tuning without having to have an external clipped onto the tip of your, no doubt, shiny muffler.
Yeah am going to suss them out mate.
again any recommendations let me know :P
']Yeah am going to suss them out mate.
again any recommendations let me know :P
Just get the el-standardo Bosch wide-band o2 sensor, everybody uses that one I think plus it's easily available. Just ask Jason what he uses.
Lucifer
05-09-2008, 07:30 PM
Just get the el-standardo Bosch wide-band o2 sensor, everybody uses that one I think plus it's easily available. Just ask Jason what he uses.
Jason uses a narrowband for the fixed O2 sensor. He has his clip on wideband for tuning, he had plans on fitting a permanent wideband but I think he gave that idea the flick.
You can't run a normal wideband sensor without a controller. The controller takes an unlinear voltage/AFR output and makes it a 0-5v output for use with laptops, ECU's and anything else that might need one.
The wideband sensors are about $120, and when you consider that a narrowband with a heater is bloody $100 bucks, you can see why most cars now days run them from factory. The only aditional cost is the controller chip required for the ECU to make use of it.
You can't run a normal wideband sensor without a controller. The controller takes an unlinear voltage/AFR output and makes it a 0-5v output for use with laptops, ECU's and anything else that might need one.
The wideband sensors are about $120, and when you consider that a narrowband with a heater is bloody $100 bucks, you can see why most cars now days run them from factory. The only aditional cost is the controller chip required for the ECU to make use of it.
I never said it would be cheap.. And i assume Jason runs narrow as his car is kept fairly stock and it was no doubt easier to install the narrow from the get go and modify later if he felt the need. Perhaps Paul should get his car towed then. I've seen the vids on the Adaptronic tuning itself, which is totally awesome.
You'd need a wideband for that to be accurate enough to drive to a dyno place right?
[TUFFTR]
06-09-2008, 06:36 AM
I never said it would be cheap.. And i assume Jason runs narrow as his car is kept fairly stock and it was no doubt easier to install the narrow from the get go and modify later if he felt the need. Perhaps Paul should get his car towed then. I've seen the vids on the Adaptronic tuning itself, which is totally awesome.
You'd need a wideband for that to be accurate enough to drive to a dyno place right?
All this is new to me so keep the info coming - I'll have to start watching a few of these videos to make sense of all the text.
I've probably gotta replace my standard o2 sensor anyway since that's still original, So going by Jason's setup, leave the standard one in there and just use a wideband for tuning (like the one he stuck in the end of his exhaust)
But yeah Throw more info at me
Yeah thats basically right TUFFTR. If you have a narrowband, it will run closed loop fuel control for cruise and light load, this is AWESOME for fuel econemy.
Closed loop fuel control for the complete map is pretty awesome, I have seen it done on some Motecs and by the looks of things the Adaptronic can do it aswell, but you need a wideband.
It is easier to tune the whole map with a wideband, and then have the narrowband run closed loop for cruise. Save yourself a few hundred dollars and just buy a new narrowband. It will pay for itself over a few months of driving anyway with increased fuel econ.
-lynel-
06-09-2008, 03:10 PM
the biggest difference between a wideband and narrowband, is narrowband basically only say whether the AFR's need to go richer or leaner, hence the closed loop operation.
widebands however can measure the AFR and is why they are used to tune a car.
widebands are more fragile then narrows, so its suggested you only use it for tuning purposes. On a dyno they will put the wideband up the tail pipe, but for the most accurate results its best one is put just after the merge collector as close to the engine as possible.
[TUFFTR]
06-09-2008, 03:50 PM
I get ya's now.
I'll try and save up for another oxygen sensor I guess, When i get it tuned I'll try and scab one for tuning lol.
Cranks over now wewp wewp wewp
Mrmacomouto
06-09-2008, 04:03 PM
What's it running like?
Trotty
06-09-2008, 04:52 PM
I think its just the motor cranking... not running as yet:doubt:
[TUFFTR]
06-09-2008, 05:04 PM
Correct :)
Also figured out most of the cut wires on the LHS (Near glovebox, under dash, near ECU) plug, I have a spare dash and dash cluster so I traced back every single wire, all the wires on the LHS panel are for your PNRD21, PWR, and O/D off lights, the oil pressure battery warning light etc run down the RHS, So least that figures that out.
I can write down the wiring colors for each globe if anyone wants it.
Mrmacomouto
14-09-2008, 04:39 PM
Update please tuffy, we need pics :)
[TUFFTR]
14-09-2008, 04:54 PM
Update please tuffy, we need pics :)
Yeah man nothing else really happening. Just waiting on the adaptronic guys to get back to me with an initial tune, when i get that i can test the **** i've hooked up and start that saga.
What I've been doing lately? Hmm finishing off the wiring (All done now)
Today started tearing apart my interior fixing up all the wiring and installing the wiring for the Verada door lights, which will activate when each door is opened just like in the verada
Also put in KS Speaker pods, and installed all my nice new glossy power windows switches :D
So hopefully in the next day or two i can get another parcel shelf (just going back to standard now) and then start putting it all back together. Right now all it has is 2 front seats and a dash:bowrofl: so looking pretty bare lol
".LIAM."
25-09-2008, 04:45 PM
how far from finished paul?
[TUFFTR]
26-09-2008, 05:17 AM
how far from finished paul?
give it a month or thereabouts lol, still waiting for the tune to be done
magna00
26-09-2008, 06:21 AM
']give it a month or thereabouts lol, still waiting for the tune to be done
32,000 views and it still aint done :P
btw why are you waiting on adaptronic to give you a base map? a decent tuner worth there salt can whip one up in <1hour.
[TUFFTR]
26-09-2008, 02:53 PM
32,000 views and it still aint done :P
btw why are you waiting on adaptronic to give you a base map? a decent tuner worth there salt can whip one up in <1hour.
He asked for a picture of the cam sensor wheel, now seeing as this uses 3000GT heads I asked guys on 3si to provide me with a picture of a cam sensor trigger wheel, i forwarded that on but the adaptronic guy said that it wasnt right, so to be 100% im going to rip the cam gear off myself and take a picture of it (what im gonna do now)
stupid ****wits at Mitsubishi decided to put one of the bolts for the lower timing cover BEHIND THE *** ENGINE MOUNT
so, engine mount out.
Trotty
26-09-2008, 04:20 PM
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stupid ****wits at Mitsubishi decided to put one of the bolts for the lower timing cover BEHIND THE *** ENGINE MOUNT
so, engine mount out.
Welll they did put the inlet manifold over the rear bank of sparkplugs.... with no room to get the suckers out.... HAHA engine mount comesout in 2 mins... easy job! whatchu worried bout!
Lucifer
26-09-2008, 04:33 PM
Welll they did put the inlet manifold over the rear bank of sparkplugs.... with no room to get the suckers out.... HAHA engine mount comesout in 2 mins... easy job! whatchu worried bout!
He's lazy and he's TUFFTR, what do you think lol
[TUFFTR]
26-09-2008, 04:34 PM
Welll they did put the inlet manifold over the rear bank of sparkplugs.... with no room to get the suckers out.... HAHA engine mount comesout in 2 mins... easy job! whatchu worried bout!
cbf getting jack underneath and stuff, man on the SOHC's getting rear plugs out is a piece of pie. on this, well, lucky they have iridium's in there:P
Deanimus
05-11-2008, 08:14 PM
any news yet mate
????:cool:
86_Elite
05-11-2008, 09:05 PM
ECU not communicating with engine means nothing happening.
But I dare say in the next few days we should see some action, just has to get the right adapter plug:P
Hmm, any plans to blow this engine tuffy? Just curious what kind of power figures it'd put out if it was blown.
Lucifer
05-11-2008, 09:18 PM
Hmm, any plans to blow this engine tuffy? Just curious what kind of power figures it'd put out if it was blown.
Eh... Can you imagine that? It'd be off the road for years.
[TUFFTR]
06-11-2008, 04:33 AM
Eh... Can you imagine that? It'd be off the road for years.
Try earning what I am :P
Nah engine is easy to rip apart I'd fix it up right away. just the 4 cams are a PITA to time up
Good work takes time!
He is learning more about cars doing this himself rather than handing over a cheque and his car only to regurgitate little bits of information he was fed from mechanics.
-lynel-
06-11-2008, 03:15 PM
couldnt have said ti better myself ROY
again good to hear the updates TUFFTR
Cressida is going through reliance testing (thats how much i trust my handywork haha) so the Rada can be garaged intime for holiday to get things underway.
Phonic
06-11-2008, 03:31 PM
Man I can't wait to see this thing ont he road, should be an animal.
']go and conform with everyone else and buy a commodore
Hey man, that cut deep. :cry:
magna00
06-11-2008, 05:38 PM
Hmm, any plans to blow this engine tuffy? Just curious what kind of power figures it'd put out if it was blown.
If he decided to blow it, it would have 0kw atw for a very very long time.
he has been busy with other stuff :P Manly sending me care packages :bowrofl:
Its taken him 12 months to get to this point, another 12 wont hurt him.
[TUFFTR]
06-11-2008, 07:14 PM
Man I can't wait to see this thing ont he road, should be an animal.
Hey man, that cut deep. :cry:
Oh Pish Posh you know what i mean...
magna00 - sorry mum "forgot" so will be sent off tomorrow.
Still had some troubles hooking the ECU up, it lights up but wont connect :S i.e. PC says its connected through COM4 so i select COM4 on the software and says nothing is detected...
Eh, small troubles really.
[TUFFTR]
08-11-2008, 03:58 PM
ECU now connects to the lappas so tomorrow i'll be doing some calibration of various sensors (so they have a min and max value) and then i can give her a test crank :D
0o0o0o00o0 so excited!
Disciple
08-11-2008, 06:08 PM
... One year on and how much money spent? Hope it's worth it champ.
[TUFFTR]
08-11-2008, 06:16 PM
... One year on and how much money spent? Hope it's worth it champ.
Money spent? not that much when you look at the price of a 3rd gen supercharger.
TBH yeah really not THAT Much. It is only a standard engine after all.
It'll be worth it trust me :D
Only one like this :D
Disciple
08-11-2008, 06:25 PM
']Money spent? not that much when you look at the price of a 3rd gen supercharger.
TBH yeah really not THAT Much. It is only a standard engine after all.
It'll be worth it trust me :D
Only one like this :D
That's cool if you consider your time worth nothing. I don't mean to bag you, just hope it's all worth it. :shock:
MicJaiy
09-11-2008, 06:00 AM
someone took F&F too seriously...... when your driving, you'll be drag racing some VN and your laptop will be flashing "TIMING BELT ABOUT TO FALL OFF" and you will just look at it and say "SHUT UP" and then slam your laptop down...... then your checkplate interior will start spitting out bolts and washers and fall off the car :bowrofl:
FRE5H
09-11-2008, 06:39 AM
someone took F&F too seriously...... when your driving, you'll be drag racing some VN and your laptop will be flashing "TIMING BELT ABOUT TO FALL OFF" and you will just look at it and say "SHUT UP" and then slam your laptop down...... then your checkplate interior will start spitting out bolts and washers and fall off the car :bowrofl:
lol ur a slak ***** mick lol
TUFFTR i have to say kudos to ur efforts on your car. if patience has a reward, im sure yours will be bitter sweet. its the frst 3.5L TR iknow off n probly will be for quite sum time. I think wat MICJAIY was trying to say is that youve put all this hard work into ur car just like in F&F, dnt let it go to waste n neglect fatal warnings. take pride in your work n dnt let negatively bring you down. uve created sumthng that u wanted n thats all that matters.
Mrmacomouto
09-11-2008, 03:53 PM
uve created sumthng that u wanted n thats all that matters.
A non working second gen with a different engine?
Nah keep up the work mate, not everyone has tonnes of cash to throw at a car.
GoTRICE
09-11-2008, 03:57 PM
That's cool if you consider your time worth nothing. I don't mean to bag you, just hope it's all worth it. :shock:
Consider how much he's learnt and saved. His time is much cheaper than a mechanics.
Disciple
09-11-2008, 04:10 PM
Consider how much he's learnt and saved. His time is much cheaper than a mechanics.
No arguments here.
[TUFFTR]
09-11-2008, 06:30 PM
Not that anyone really cares but I did a bit of fault finding myself today when my TPS wasnt connecting to my ECU so i was pretty happy with myself :). traced it back and turns out Instead of having it on the S pin it was on the O pin. So yeah for anyone wondering TPS Sensors are incredibly easy.
and FYI on a 2nd gen you have
+ (+5V)
O
S (Signal)
- (Earth)
So yeah pretty easy. Just having some trouble calibrating my water temp sensor, should be reading ambient temp but was reading 125deg constantly.
So yeah besides that Im almost all clear for giving it her first test start.
']
So yeah pretty easy. Just having some trouble calibrating my water temp sensor, should be reading ambient temp but was reading 125deg constantly.
So yeah besides that Im almost all clear for giving it her first test start.
video record it, or it didn't happen :P
dimi108
09-11-2008, 07:54 PM
Start it up man yallah. Been waiting 9.5 months
Disciple
09-11-2008, 07:57 PM
Start it up man yallah. Been waiting 9.5 months
9.5 months?
Thread started: 10-11-2007, 02:38 PM
Mr_Roberto
09-11-2008, 08:05 PM
awesome work mate
cant wait for this to be finished
magna00
09-11-2008, 08:06 PM
awesome work mate
cant wait for this to be finished
:bowrofl:
[TUFFTR]
09-11-2008, 08:16 PM
Start it up man yallah. Been waiting 9.5 months
Cars only been off the road for 4 months:P
how long was yours off the road for? about the same yeah
for all of you who laugh try doing this yourself its not as easy as it looks :P (looks at magna00 hehe)
magna00
09-11-2008, 08:35 PM
']Cars only been off the road for 4 months:P
how long was yours off the road for? about the same yeah
for all of you who laugh try doing this yourself its not as easy as it looks :P (looks at magna00 hehe)
Provide me with said parts and i could get it up and running within a week with a basic base map to get it onto a trailer for a tune.
Lucifer
09-11-2008, 09:06 PM
Provide me with said parts and i could get it up and running within a week with a basic base map to get it onto a trailer for a tune.
Most sensible people like yourself won't put 20 coats of paint on useless items before even thinking about putting the engine in the car.
magna00
09-11-2008, 09:07 PM
Most sensible people like yourself won't put 20 coats of paint on useless items before even thinking about putting the engine in the car.
True, and also making lulz threads about it.
opilot87
09-11-2008, 10:51 PM
9.5 months?
Thread started: 10-11-2007, 02:38 PM
Hey, you gotta get this thing started on this thread's one year anniversery. lol
I will be so spewin for you if you wrap this thing around a tree the day you get it running :rofleek:
Ollie
[TUFFTR]
10-11-2008, 04:02 AM
Hey, you gotta get this thing started on this thread's one year anniversery. lol
I will be so spewin for you if you wrap this thing around a tree the day you get it running :rofleek:
Ollie
Yeah, Cause I'm an idiot.
luke - Brudder gotta make da fings pretty before ya whack em in
TJ Sports
10-11-2008, 07:33 AM
it is fn amazing how the car looks now if u saw it from day 1 :shock:
the first time tuffy took a spanner to the car to fix the stem seals cause everytime he revved it it blew heaps of smoke lol it was b4 he got his licence (**** has it been that long!) and he hadn't even got the alternator out and i said its not too late to turn back. :confused:
imagine if he listened! it would justa been another riced up 2nd gen but now its like a giant biante model! if tuffy pulls this one off i reckon he could do anything. not bad for a backyarder :thumbsup:
i reckon it wont be long now b4 all 200+KW screams to life :shock:
Phonic
10-11-2008, 08:18 AM
I will be so spewin for you if you wrap this thing around a tree the day you get it running :rofleek:
Yeah.....:doubt:
MicJaiy
10-11-2008, 08:21 AM
Yeah.....:doubt:
Don't worry i was thinking the same thing
Maybe something along the lines of "i hope the car doesn't break down" would of been less morbid.
Lucifer
10-11-2008, 10:10 AM
Don't worry i was thinking the same thing
Maybe something along the lines of "i hope the car doesn't break down" would of been less morbid.
Or seize after a minute of running... Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Worried yet Pauline?
Mrmacomouto
10-11-2008, 01:25 PM
i reckon it wont be long now b4 all 200+KW screams to life :shock:
And then dies in a pool of oil?
People never get tired of taking the piss out of Paul for this do they. There's no way in hell I'd try something to this level myself, and he's doing a fantastic job for one guy in a backyard on his own doing such an engine conversion. Making comments about it it breaking down or crashing it isn't really appropriate given all that he has put into it.
Painting everything you can see on the other hand, we'll never let that go paula! Lets hope you can overcome all that piss talk soon with Killer Wasps :P
Trotty
10-11-2008, 02:34 PM
People never get tired of taking the piss out of Paul for this do they. There's no way in hell I'd try something to this level myself, and he's doing a fantastic job for one guy in a backyard on his own doing such an engine conversion. Making comments about it it breaking down or crashing it isn't really appropriate given all that he has put into it.
Painting everything you can see on the other hand, we'll never let that go paula! Lets hope you can overcome all that piss talk soon with Killer Wasps :P
Totally agree..... and on that weekly income. I couldnt LIVE! let alone do a build up! Kudos!
[TUFFTR]
10-11-2008, 02:37 PM
People never get tired of taking the piss out of Paul for this do they. There's no way in hell I'd try something to this level myself, and he's doing a fantastic job for one guy in a backyard on his own doing such an engine conversion. Making comments about it it breaking down or crashing it isn't really appropriate given all that he has put into it.
Painting everything you can see on the other hand, we'll never let that go paula! Lets hope you can overcome all that piss talk soon with Killer Wasps :P
Spanks.
Yeah i dont care about all the oil jokes and whatknot :P everyone's had there run of bad luck with cars, mine turned out to just be a blocked elbow on the rear rocker cover after all this crap.
Mrmacomouto
10-11-2008, 02:50 PM
People never get tired of taking the piss out of Paul for this do they. There's no way in hell I'd try something to this level myself, and he's doing a fantastic job for one guy in a backyard on his own doing such an engine conversion. Making comments about it it breaking down or crashing it isn't really appropriate given all that he has put into it
Lol, were just teasin
I am sure he can take a joke. I mean who hasn't had car problems before?
wombat
10-11-2008, 02:51 PM
I challenge you to a drag... tonight before your car is running:P
[TUFFTR]
10-11-2008, 02:52 PM
I challenge you to a drag... tonight before your car is running:P
Sure, you drive down here.
Is this possibly the longest thread still going on AMC:P
Over 1 year old..
Screamin TE
10-11-2008, 02:58 PM
its been an interesting one at that. One of the few people on here that has said "i'm gonna do this to my car" and actually gone and done it. I'm guilty of the sayin "i'm gonna do this" and never actually doin it.
Good work Paul. how long till this beasty is up and running.
Mrmacomouto
10-11-2008, 02:59 PM
Cue: Greenday - "I hope you had the time of your life"
[TUFFTR]
10-11-2008, 03:01 PM
its been an interesting one at that. One of the few people on here that has said "i'm gonna do this to my car" and actually gone and done it. I'm guilty of the sayin "i'm gonna do this" and never actually doin it.
Good work Paul. how long till this beasty is up and running.
Ja Ja....and I was sick of hearing about other 2nd gen owners saying the same crap. So i thought if i dont do it I'm just gonna be one of them etc etc. glad i did it. lol should of heard TJ Sports when i opened the garage. something along the lines of "woah thats a f*****g nice engine!"
... One year on and how much money spent? Hope it's worth it champ.
Way to hate :doubt:
Glenn
10-11-2008, 06:23 PM
this thread sucks, less talking more making motor go :doubt:
Disciple
10-11-2008, 06:35 PM
Way to hate :doubt:
:roll:
Josh'93TR
10-11-2008, 08:05 PM
Saw this thing in the flesh last week and all I can say is just wait till its back on the road!
Looks unreal and all pauls hard work has definately paid off...pity we couldnt get it to crank over while I was there Paula...
[TUFFTR]
10-11-2008, 08:07 PM
Saw this thing in the flesh last week and all I can say is just wait till its back on the road!
Looks unreal and all pauls hard work has definately paid off...pity we couldnt get it to crank over while I was there Paula...
Hey man :D
Almost finished the wiring and configuration of what I know anyway..
So who knows maybe next week i can give it a test crank? go from there anyway..
magna00
10-11-2008, 08:19 PM
this thread sucks, less talking more making motor go :doubt:
:stoopid:
I reckon I might have to take a trip to vic and steal me some hot engine before it's welded in.
KING EGO
10-11-2008, 08:42 PM
December 07 hey.. thats a year.. I was always getting paid out about my been off the road since march.. mine will be back early 2009 and your will still be going..:)
[TUFFTR]
10-11-2008, 08:46 PM
December 07 hey.. thats a year.. I was always getting paid out about my been off the road since march.. mine will be back early 2009 and your will still be going..:)
Nar hopefully its driveable by end of dec start of jan. right now all thats left is the MAP sensor to calibrate and once i confer with TC then yeah not much left, then onto car trailer for the dyno place to rape my wallet.
really wish i put some forgies in there now.
QMD///801
10-11-2008, 08:48 PM
December 07 hey.. thats a year.. I was always getting paid out about my been off the road since march.. mine will be back early 2009 and your will still be going..:)
lol u haven't even started yours yet.... me thinks u will be pushin to make mm09 :bowrofl:
Mrmacomouto
10-11-2008, 08:50 PM
']Nar hopefully its driveable by end of dec start of jan. right now all thats left is the MAP sensor to calibrate and once i confer with TC then yeah not much left, then onto car trailer for the dyno place to rape my wallet.
really wish i put some forgies in there now.
Just wondering, how exactly do you callibrate a MAP? You mean just take min/max readings?
[TUFFTR]
10-11-2008, 08:59 PM
Just wondering, how exactly do you callibrate a MAP? You mean just take min/max readings?
yeah pretty much man
Mrmacomouto
10-11-2008, 09:49 PM
Could be easier with an old school analoge style meter, no annoying refresh rate.
[TUFFTR]
24-12-2008, 02:04 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/fuelreg002.jpg
and some fail photography
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/fuelreg003.jpg
Newest xmas present (to myself) SARD adjustable fuel pressure reg. Yes that is the standard reg there atm, waiting on my adaptor to arrive :)
Looks sick as, best thing is, with the bracket it came with, I just bashed it flat and it fitted to the manifold :D score.
As you can see, just had to use a 45deg brass fitting so the inlet would clear the rocker cover. Bit messy I know
Updates updates......
Went to the tuners on the w/e and its all a go ahead, only downside is, is he wont be able to accept the car for a month! but whats 4 weeks when you've waited like 25 already!
Saturday I pick up a new dayco toming belt and new tensioner....I dont trust the look of this ebay belt...so thought I'd just get a newey.
Apart from that, have to change a few minor things, probably the only thing I need to read up more on Is the wiring of the injectors (if anyone can help let me know) as its semi-sequential i have to split 3 wires into 6.
Anyhoo, Once the timing belt is done (for a 5th time LOL Its good to learn though) Ive just gotta suss some other things out and we'll give starting it a go. Tuner said If I could start it it'd cut half the time off it'll be in his shop, but I'm not too fussed, as long as its done.
Mohit
24-12-2008, 02:14 PM
Yeh was a good trip to the tuner, very insightful
FPR looks fully h3KtiC too :P
Mrmacomouto
24-12-2008, 03:53 PM
I duno man... Do you think the red fits in? Benn to an interior designer yet to get a second opnion?
Looking good, looks like it needs some verada rims....
Lucifer
24-12-2008, 03:58 PM
That gauge is totally readable while driving
That gauge is totally readable while driving
High Five!
I was teasing him on the engine bay guages on msn :P
Mrmacomouto
24-12-2008, 04:07 PM
That gauge is totally readable while driving
maybe a backlight/neon or something?
Ah lucifer, you have brightened up my day!
Tuffy, may I guggest an underbonnet light, I know it sounds silly but when a hose pops off when your on a highway at night and your trying to reattach it it will make sense.
Lucifer
24-12-2008, 05:01 PM
maybe a backlight/neon or something?
Ah lucifer, you have brightened up my day!
Tuffy, may I guggest an underbonnet light, I know it sounds silly but when a hose pops off when your on a highway at night and your trying to reattach it it will make sense.
Yes, the engine bay needs more neons, drill the mounts for the neons into the rocker covers and use wood screws
toocky
24-12-2008, 05:04 PM
so pointless thread is back open to the public again?
the gauge may not be readable but at least its shiny
grelise
24-12-2008, 05:28 PM
so pointless thread is back open to the public again?
the gauge may not be readable but at least its shiny
Its the one in members rides your thinking of, this one got dug back up again, I can see this one copping flak and closing up toolol
[TUFFTR]
24-12-2008, 06:04 PM
Its the one in members rides your thinking of, this one got dug back up again, I can see this one copping flak and closing up toolol
Funny hey, give me crap all ya want really but i lol at most of it as non of you have done this stuff before :P
Like i said, Going to actually get finished soon.
Was toying with the idea of Under bonnet LED's and like anything else, give me time....
']Was toying with the idea of Under bonnet LED's and like anything else, give me time....
the money spent on under bonnet LED's will be better spent if you just give it to me :P
[TUFFTR]
24-12-2008, 06:12 PM
the money spent on under bonnet LED's will be better spent if you just give it to me :P
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe not :D
Andddddddddddd
I'll update this when i get the certain thing/s for the motor but it will be awesome :D
Tuffy, may I guggest an underbonnet light, I know it sounds silly but when a hose pops off when your on a highway at night and your trying to reattach it it will make sense.
Trust me a few people have suggested that to him before (myself included), and the thing none of us can really work out and I'm trusting paul has thought about doing this a bit, is how you protect the light from the heat of the engine. A light in the engine bay itself isn't much good if it melts the first time you warm the engine up!
And correct me if I'm wrong, but that guage should show a constant PSI should it not? So you don't really need to see it while driving do you? Just something to keep an eye on for maintenance purposes yeah?
[TUFFTR]
24-12-2008, 06:20 PM
Trust me a few people have suggested that to him before (myself included), and the thing none of us can really work out and I'm trusting paul has thought about doing this a bit, is how you protect the light from the heat of the engine. A light in the engine bay itself isn't much good if it melts the first time you warm the engine up!
And correct me if I'm wrong, but that guage should show a constant PSI should it not? So you don't really need to see it while driving do you? Just something to keep an eye on for maintenance purposes yeah?
Mostly only got it because it has a gauge, and its anodized, adds too the h3cticKnE55 bro
And yeah, should read a constant PSI, I'll just pretend Its my boost gauge
abzstar
24-12-2008, 07:09 PM
Well done i wouldnt mind that setup in my tj ahahha. too bad its tiptronic.
Well done i wouldnt mind that setup in my tj ahahha. too bad its tiptronic.
Doesn't matter, it's fuel pressure? Unless this 'tiptronic' you speak of runs on farts or carrots or something else extraordinary.
Doesn't matter, it's fuel pressure? Unless this 'tiptronic' you speak of runs on farts or carrots or something else extraordinary.
mine runs on farts are carrots, im lucky coz both are cheap and easy to find
NORBY
24-12-2008, 07:27 PM
mine runs on farts are carrots, im lucky coz both are cheap and easy to find
imagines bakebean eatting carrotfarmers making cars
Lucifer
24-12-2008, 07:46 PM
imagines bakebean eatting carrotfarmers making cars
Tonsley Park
Too soon?
[TUFFTR]
14-01-2009, 08:33 PM
Good news : We got the car to backfire! Woo!
Cannot thank _x_FiReStOrM_x_ enough for his help with this crappy car.
On friday will just have to alter the wiring for the cam and crank sensors and maybe...just maybe....it might be this week (after many) that the first 3.5L twin cam TR starts up! (This stuf takes time eh)
It actually sounded like it wanted to start but we had traced it back to a triggering problem. DAYUM I am excited!
dimi108
14-01-2009, 08:38 PM
Record this sh*t man. Post a video of when it starts aye.
[TUFFTR]
14-01-2009, 08:40 PM
Record this sh*t man. Post a video of when it starts aye.
hell yeah!
If not though, it'll be going to the tuners in a matter of weeks now, so I will defiantly get footage then!
Just got a lightweight crank pulley from the US W00t
HRD2GT
14-01-2009, 08:46 PM
good luck mate, acctually i was impressed when i saw it yesterday 4 the first time, like WoW Speechless,
All the best n looking forward 2 hear the good news :P
Cheers.
[TUFFTR]
14-01-2009, 08:52 PM
good luck mate, acctually i was impressed when i saw it yesterday 4 the first time, like WoW Speechless,
All the best n looking forward 2 hear the good news :P
Cheers.
Ah it looked terrible yesterday, when the complete package is done this will be one sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet 2nd gen!
Lucifer
14-01-2009, 11:14 PM
']Ah it looked terrible yesterday, when the complete package is done this will be one sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet 2nd gen!
You should have bought a VN and tricked that out bro
dimi108
14-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Yo Paul, what's the update on how much has been spent on the project so far?
[TUFFTR]
15-01-2009, 04:22 AM
Yo Paul, what's the update on how much has been spent on the project so far?
I dunno man....Alot...
Luke GTFO
GRDPuck
15-01-2009, 07:40 AM
']Good news : We got the car to backfire! Woo!WooHoo! :bouncin:
Only a matter of time now (and an unknown number of hours of work and choice words spoken) before your driving this thing! :thumbsup:
Well done mate - can't wait.
dimi108
15-01-2009, 08:09 AM
$15,000! :shock:
[TUFFTR]
15-01-2009, 02:18 PM
$15,000! :shock:
What? Just for an engine conversion?
I have spent alot yes But i cannot tell you exactly what on just the conversion, lets say probs $6K by the time its done?
dimi108
15-01-2009, 02:21 PM
Oh $6,000 that's alright. Someone said you spent $15,000
wombat
15-01-2009, 02:29 PM
Woo yeah i thought to myself when i saw this thread had been updated it was about the car starting, you can throw clocks at me all you like if you drive this up here and take me for a spin:P
[TUFFTR]
15-01-2009, 02:38 PM
Oh $6,000 that's alright. Someone said you spent $15,000
Besides the $1500 for the actual engine is you can locate the other $13500 of this engine conversion I'd like to know.
For reference (not that I honestly care just for comparisons sake) how much did your DOHC conversion cost you in the end?
Wombat get your ass to MM09 and I'll hand out rides left right and centre.
wombat
15-01-2009, 02:45 PM
']
Wombat get your ass to MM09 and I'll hand out rides left right and centre.
Am i the only one who thinks he is coming onto me?:P
dimi108
15-01-2009, 02:49 PM
']Besides the $1500 for the actual engine is you can locate the other $13500 of this engine conversion I'd like to know.
For reference (not that I honestly care just for comparisons sake) how much did your DOHC conversion cost you in the end?
Wombat get your ass to MM09 and I'll hand out rides left right and centre.
Ah, my DOHC conversion was way over. It ended up costing around $11,000.
When I got the car back, i drove it for a few months and thought this isn't that great. So I said nah, eff that and sold it and rewarded myself with the VR-4, instead. Now i'm cheering.
[TUFFTR]
15-01-2009, 08:09 PM
Ah, my DOHC conversion was way over. It ended up costing around $11,000.
When I got the car back, i drove it for a few months and thought this isn't that great. So I said nah, eff that and sold it and rewarded myself with the VR-4, instead. Now i'm cheering.
Holy....Jesus...
Still dunno why you kept that auto and ran the stock ECU though :P
Anyhoo....No this has cost no-where near as much thats with the manual conversion included. We'll ill sort the wires out on saturday and go from there! Wish me luck!
Mr_Roberto
15-01-2009, 08:11 PM
is just wiring/tiding it up all thats left to do?
not far off now :)
GRDPuck
15-01-2009, 08:17 PM
']...We'll ill sort the wires out on saturday and go from there! Wish me luck!Wishing you luck - given the time, dedication & effort you've put into that thing, if anyone deserves it - you do!
:thumbsup: :pray:
dimi108
15-01-2009, 09:56 PM
']Holy....Jesus...
Still dunno why you kept that auto and ran the stock ECU though :P
What do you think I am bro an ATM? I just dropped $11,000 on the conversion lol i wasn't exactly in the mood to fork out extra cash for a manual conversion and extra things like and ECU etc. etc.
At least i scored a free igniter from you :P
[TUFFTR]
16-01-2009, 04:20 AM
What do you think I am bro an ATM? I just dropped $11,000 on the conversion lol i wasn't exactly in the mood to fork out extra cash for a manual conversion and extra things like and ECU etc. etc.
At least i scored a free igniter from you :P
hahahaha nah mate I mean It's a shame why you didnt go with that from the start, not do it all AGAIN.I knew the stock ECU would be a PITA to wire up to the auto which is why i knew i was never going to do it.
Yeah scored a free igniter at the wreckers the other week that works SCORE
[TUFFTR]
16-01-2009, 04:24 AM
is just wiring/tiding it up all thats left to do?
not far off now :)
I have to alter the cam and crank sensor wiring and also find out how to wire up the ISC and VICS (Variable Intake Control system...I think thats what it stands for) But if not, Workshop can wire that up.
Should be dropped off for tuning in about 2 weeks.
i"ll be at mm09, after all it's in QLD forever now isn't it?!
VR-4 is the way to do it but you know you give Paul kudos if not for the work, just the effort he's been going through for what is a frumpy family car that will never out-handle a proper sports car.
I bet he'll sell it 3 months after it's finished and buy a Skyline or something haha.
Gerard
16-01-2009, 06:29 AM
I'm sorry, but did the poster above me just reference a Legnum and a Skyline as a proper sports car? haha, you brought the lols there mate.
I say good on Paul for attempting something that is cleary not easy and is giving him so much joy. Having a massive project like this is exciting, especially when you do everything yourself and you know every wire and bolt in the car.
It's very easy for many people to cave in and go for something cheaper and easier and will spit out better results. But what do you learn from doing that?
Dimi made the attempt, had fun getting it all done, didn't enjoy it and bought something ready to go!
Even if Paul ends up doing the same thing after a while, at least he has the experience and memories of the project and he gets to take something away from it.
[TUFFTR]
16-01-2009, 01:53 PM
Yeah nah....Wont be selling this. Dont have any other money to buy another project car. This is the project car :P Hey nick it actually does handle quite well for a 16yo FWD. You wouldnt think the motor was mounted facing the front wheels. then again that was before...
Its good though, I've learnt alot about wiring this stuff in. Besides the simple mistake of not putting the ground wire on the igniter, I got spark first time, which is re-assuring. everything else has gone pretty smoothly, again, some simple mistakes I've done but overall if you research it properly and do your homework there should be no issue in wiring it up.
[TUFFTR]
18-01-2009, 09:39 PM
AFAIK The ECU wiring is now 100% done, and should work correctly. I say this because I stuffed up the triggering wiring to the cam and crank sensors. Now that these are correct I have no doubt it will start.
I have a small setback atm mechanical wise. It should be sorted out soon. Not that I care because either way She's going to get tuned within a fortnight (give or take)
w00t
']AFAIK The ECU wiring is now 100% done, and should work correctly. I say this because I stuffed up the triggering wiring to the cam and crank sensors. Now that these are correct I have no doubt it will start.
I have a small setback atm mechanical wise. It should be sorted out soon. Not that I care because either way She's going to get tuned within a fortnight (give or take)
w00t
So, ETA - Jan 31st, 2011?
Lucifer
18-01-2009, 11:00 PM
So, ETA - Jan 31st, 2011?
Were you talking about when you get your license back?
lowrider
18-01-2009, 11:02 PM
haha :owned:
(sorry dean)
:(
Gotta admit, that was a good call Lucy.
Cruiser
19-01-2009, 12:13 AM
If you can, remember to take video of the first start. These moments should be captured, you know. lol
LeGiOnAiR
21-01-2009, 10:39 AM
Saw this yesterday :)
very exciting things are happening! And the motor looks amazing, i wanted to steal it and put it in the VL lol
robssei
23-01-2009, 07:31 AM
']Ummmmmmm because its a different motor? I don't bloody know why its different, I just did a conversion, I didnt design the thing.
And who "maintains" a pulley anyway?
"Yes I'd like an oil change and a pulley check thanks"
Luke the motors fine.
soooo iwas right in saying they need checking and do wear out, this indeed makes them a maintainence issue!!!!! sorry mate had to pull ya up on that one lol.:badgrin:
[TUFFTR]
23-01-2009, 04:01 PM
w00t
got some more goodies
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/3SXpulleypolished.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/catchcan2.jpg
BirdmannAz
23-01-2009, 06:15 PM
Did you get the catch can from ebay?
[TUFFTR]
23-01-2009, 06:21 PM
Did you get the catch can from ebay?
yep, I'm a sucker for shiny things.
And the outlet and inlet are in the right spot too. so works good. Will install this w/e
robssei
23-01-2009, 06:47 PM
that pulley is wiked!!! :cool: hey just wondering, on some engines the main pulley acts as a harmonic balancer, are you sure the 6G74 doesnt need the front pulley a certain weight?? just a thought....
[TUFFTR]
23-01-2009, 06:55 PM
that pulley is wiked!!! :cool: hey just wondering, on some engines the main pulley acts as a harmonic balancer, are you sure the 6G74 doesnt need the front pulley a certain weight?? just a thought....
Yeah they use a harmonic balancer. I've done my fair share of reading MANY a thread about this on the 3000GT website I'm on. I know about the whole idea is to dampen vibrations (correct me if im wrong) but no one can prove they cause damage. The only downside is they sort of give off a noise so to say.
Stock pulley weighs 3.2kg. this one weighs 600g!
so there will defiantly be some free'd up power with this on
But yeah again, I couldnt find any solid proff that using this will ruin the engine. So yeah.
Dave TJ
23-01-2009, 07:58 PM
Sorry have read a fair bit of your build but never took notice of g/box type. Auto wouldn't be a prob with that pulley, converter acts like a damper, manual could be a problem for the pressure plate straps they tend to be torsional vibration damper. But being a v6 the crank is so short you'ed think it would be ok. God I'm thinking out loud. Less weight better engine acceleration. Sorry I'm no help at all.
Cheers Dave.
-lynel-
24-01-2009, 08:20 AM
dont worry to much about the lightweight pully Tuffy. Ive also found a lot of info about them causing issues and not causing issues, and in the Nissan Franternity, its been assumed that enignes that run a timing belt can change the front main pulley no trouble. Its engines that run chains that seem to be the most problematic and its assummed that its the lightweight pulley.
For instance
there have not been any rapid failures of CA18 engines fitted with GFB's pulleys yet there have been dozens of stock and forged SR20 engines failed very suddenly after a GFB pulley set was added. ROSS balancers are pretty much the best aftermaket solution but are quite pricey and for the gain arent really worth it. Low end rpm pick up isnt somthing you will have trouble with with 3.5L and 10:1CR. Its the highend where the heavy internal parts will play there part against you, but again id put money on you not even being able to notice.
[TUFFTR]
24-01-2009, 10:20 AM
dont worry to much about the lightweight pully Tuffy. Ive also found a lot of info about them causing issues and not causing issues, and in the Nissan Franternity, its been assumed that enignes that run a timing belt can change the front main pulley no trouble. Its engines that run chains that seem to be the most problematic and its assummed that its the lightweight pulley.
For instance
there have not been any rapid failures of CA18 engines fitted with GFB's pulleys yet there have been dozens of stock and forged SR20 engines failed very suddenly after a GFB pulley set was added. ROSS balancers are pretty much the best aftermaket solution but are quite pricey and for the gain arent really worth it. Low end rpm pick up isnt somthing you will have trouble with with 3.5L and 10:1CR. Its the highend where the heavy internal parts will play there part against you, but again id put money on you not even being able to notice.
Yeah I probably wont notice, but alot of guys who put them on the 3L's reckon they feel a change right away.
I'm trying to get as many bolt on's as possible. No headwork or cams though.
Gerard
27-01-2009, 06:48 AM
Hey, i havent had time to read all the posts. Did this thing start? the ETA last time i read up on this was meant to be last Friday. How did it go?
Madmagna
27-01-2009, 07:30 AM
Quite frankly I would like to see some of you ass clowns who are constantly having a dig at Paul pull your fingers out of what ever hole they are in, spend some serious dollars and do something more to your cars aside from a "fully sic zorst", "awsome CAI" and a set of wheels that really at the end of the day are no different to every other damn manga on the road:nuts:
Very few of the comedians in this thread who are makeing the constant comments have cars even worthy of a second thought. At least Paul has, on a very limited budget, gone out of his way and done something far greater than the majority of the members on this forum.
I an over some of the people here who seem to have a constant need to rubbish those members here (not only Paul but a few members pumping many $$ into Magnas here) who have the ability to think past a canon muffler.
If you want to act like clowns and constantly put people down who try new things, go to another forum where I am sure you will fit in nicely
Until this happens and you have done something worthwhile to your cars, STFU and leave Paul alone.:rant:
Oh and LIfe, go and bloody well get one
[TUFFTR]
27-01-2009, 10:23 AM
I couldn't fix the minor mechanical issue I'm having right now (only thing stopping it from starting) so I'm going to leave it for the workshop to do. Its only a 30 minute job but I'd rather not screw something up I really have no idea about.
Other then that, got my catch can mounted and my umm "Ghetto" 3/4" shorter shifter in.
Life - I will gauge your eyes out and skull **** you if you keep going on with this crap. I only find it funny how although I am driving a 26 year old piece of crap, I am driving. Enjoy the bus lanes dude.
Anyhoo - Rang up the workshop and he's ready to take it in. So by the 7-10th of feb she'll be in there hopefully getting all the bugs ironed out.
Also just purchased another nice twin turbo part (actually just got off the phone with the guy selling it to me while typing this) and I'll show that to ya's when I've finished working my magic on it. i.e. I'll be polishing it lol
Umm and just gotta sort out a power steering hose, hook up the water temp unit to the standard gauge in the cluster and yeah thats about all i can do.
Madmagna
29-01-2009, 06:36 PM
At Pauls request, I have removed some of the more recent banter
Please only post if you have something to add to the discussion which will either help Paul or a future member wishing to perform the same conversion.
Cheers Guys
Trotty
29-01-2009, 06:47 PM
']Yeah I probably wont notice, but alot of guys who put them on the 3L's reckon they feel a change right away.
I'm trying to get as many bolt on's as possible. No headwork or cams though.
Hey tuffy, about that pulley, is it just a lightwieght? or underdrive aswell?
I would assume this if just a lightwieght pulley to be the same as shaving the crap outta the flywheel?. or drilling?.
But if under drive ur actually loosing less power driving accessories.?
[TUFFTR]
29-01-2009, 06:58 PM
Hey tuffy, about that pulley, is it just a lightwieght? or underdrive aswell?
I would assume this if just a lightwieght pulley to be the same as shaving the crap outta the flywheel?. or drilling?.
But if under drive ur actually loosing less power driving accessories.?
nah nah just lightweight.
Didn't want an underdrive as it does slow down the accessory's alot and I can't have that.
Its made from CNC 6061 machined billet aluminum.
Always wanted one and found one 2nd hand so jumped on it. weights NOTHING in comparison to stock.
http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItemBundle.asp?idProduct=916
Screamin TE
29-01-2009, 07:01 PM
so whats this mechanical issue you are having Paul??? I'm keen to know what is holding this beast up.
[TUFFTR]
29-01-2009, 07:03 PM
so whats this mechanical issue you are having Paul??? I'm keen to know what is holding this beast up.
lol
Due to my inquisitiveness I made one of the cams jump two teeth..
The way the cams stop it leaves a bit of slack between the water pump, well, I know that now.
So just have to time the motor up again and she's all good.
Bit of a PITA but eh what can ya do
Mr_Roberto
29-01-2009, 07:17 PM
im guessing it would be harder to line up the timing cause of the extra two camshaft pulleys?
[TUFFTR]
29-01-2009, 07:24 PM
im guessing it would be harder to line up the timing cause of the extra two camshaft pulleys?
yeah just a PITA lining up 4 cams...I know how to do it from watching others do it but when it comes push to shove I just dont trust myself :P
Madmagna
30-01-2009, 03:59 AM
Mate, this weekend is out but if you have not resolved by the following I may be able to come over and have a look, or perhaps one day after work even?
In so far as a flywheel goes, NEVER lighten a factory one, they are prone to explode under strain and revs due to the course casiting they are made of
ALWAYS get one made from billit
what would happen to the gearbox and engine if that happened??
Steevo
30-01-2009, 08:38 AM
while I`ve seen plenty of factory lightend flywhels that have lasted fine and have been given a absolute hiding,that said,no idea how much meat was taken off (how light they went),if it lets go,the can bust through the housing,up through the floor and take out some gear or your feet while doing so!,not pretty at all,billet one is good advice if you like you feet on your legs
steve
Madmagna
30-01-2009, 09:08 AM
Mine was a RWD RX3, was meant to have been a billet but clearly was not.
Being RWD, the shrapnel went into the engine bay, looked like a hand granade went off!! No brakes left, cut fuel lines etc etc
In a FWD, you or your passenger are right in the firing line.
THe issue is the casting towards the middle of the flywheel is very course, it can not and is not designed to hold together.
Now some do lighten the factory flywheels and in some cars they are successful but is a risk if the person does not know how far they can go.
It does not increase power at all, it increases the engine's ability to rev faster. The down side, is not as driveable due to the mass being reduced that was put there in the first place to help the engine maintain engine speed.
In my Turbo Rotaries I used to use Aluminium flywheels and these were so damn hard to drive on the street but they hit max revs a hell of a lot faster
Mal you're a rotor guy?
Dang....
On that note - as what Mal said, lightened factory flywheels do go bang, especially in rotors for some reason.
As per below post by Ringa - Pics or ban lol
RINGA///ART
30-01-2009, 01:45 PM
off topic:
ohhh rotas... id love to see some pics of said RX3..
/end off topic
[TUFFTR]
10-02-2009, 05:35 PM
Polished manifold in!
Personally I reckon this is the best 2nd gen engine bay in aus.
Of course, needs a clean. I'm gonna start tidying up all the wires next. Should finish it off nicely.
Bit of a hiccup, workshop wont be open when im avail to drop the car off, so its gonna have to wait until next week :doubt:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/Sweeeeet2.jpg
magna00
10-02-2009, 05:41 PM
Needs some serious wire cleanup isle 3.
Looks great! Hangin out to see how this little beauty goes.
RINGA///ART
10-02-2009, 05:43 PM
looks friggen fantastic mate! well done!
lenda
10-02-2009, 05:44 PM
that looks sick mate, you have done an awsome job.
Paul,
IF I didnt know any better, I swear the wiring just got more messy :P lol
Rest looks good.
Maybe you need to fly me down to melbourne to help you hide that wiring? :P
magna00
10-02-2009, 05:48 PM
Paul,
IF I didnt know any better, I swear the wiring just got more messy :P lol
Rest looks good.
Maybe you need to fly me down to melbourne to help you hide that wiring? :P
paul is an auto elec in training I hear he has L plates and all
[TUFFTR]
10-02-2009, 05:51 PM
paul is an auto elec in training I hear he has L plates and all
gtfo!
As I've already mentioned 768 times I'll tidy up the wiring once the car runs. Since I've ironed out alot of electrical bugs I'll start tidying up the bits I know work.
Also have 2 distribution blocks to go in, and 4 runs of 0ga. not to mention the cabin wiring! :P
Oh also dunno if you can see but got braided fuel hose made up :shifty:
paul is an auto elec in training I hear he has L plates and all
lol I know - just giving him a it of stick lol
You'll do it once the car is running - sure sure princess :P
Lucifer
10-02-2009, 05:56 PM
Nice one, looks the goods.
GRDPuck
10-02-2009, 06:02 PM
Paul, that looks the goods!
If that was my old 2g wagon's engine bay, I wouldn't care if it went any harder than a stock 2nd gen V6. I'd just be proud it looked like that!
Well done mate.
Can't wait to know this thing goes and see it all tidied up.
Mr_Roberto
10-02-2009, 06:48 PM
looks awesome, matches your air intake piping
[TUFFTR]
10-02-2009, 06:57 PM
looks awesome, matches your air intake piping
and my oil catch can :P
wombat
10-02-2009, 07:01 PM
Shiny, so shiny, i like my grease better but:P
Madmagna
12-02-2009, 06:10 PM
Have you tried to fire it up since we did the belt
[TUFFTR]
12-02-2009, 07:36 PM
Have you tried to fire it up since we did the belt
Nup. Got the new fuel hose in, new PS hose in too, umm polished more stuff too :redface: I'll be trying either tomorrow after work or saturday Oh and also had to buy some new bits and bobs for the TT manifold like blocking off a spare vac line getting a reducer and buying that bolt I needed :D
edit* really REALLY wanting a clear coated engine bay right now. I really hate matt finish paint.
ARS55
12-02-2009, 08:26 PM
make sure you take a video for the historic first start.
magna00
12-02-2009, 08:35 PM
make sure you take a video for the historic first start.
and last as well?
:P
ARS55
12-02-2009, 08:39 PM
lmao, ok don't start on him. I'm sure he's had enough stress getting it to this stage let alone putting up with our ****.
perry
12-02-2009, 08:55 PM
good to see its nilly there mate, it should be a best when shes done
[TUFFTR]
15-02-2009, 03:59 PM
Well didn't start. Dunno why, fuel pressure is good, and triggering should of been spot on. ah well, guess that's up to the shop to work out now. I'm over tryin' to start it. Anyhoo cleaned up all the wires on the LHS strut tower and started cleaning up wires a bit all over the place. modified the injector cover to fit with the new manifold, umm got rid of the old brackets at the rear of the motor as they dont bolt up to the new manifold, what else, ran most of the wiring for the gauges, and started polishing up the radiator mounts :redface: I hate the ugly stock black ones! next up I gotta buy a exhaust heat shield for the front and polish that up. Should look ace.
Errrrrr also mucked around with the intake, got the pod sitting alot higher now near the battery, looks better for some reason. Might keep it that way..See how we go.
Once my relays rock up I can start getting all the wiring together, It's a freeken mess inside!
so yeah, although I don't work as quick as Mal It's different when you don't know what your doing half the time:P
Radiator mounts should be done tomorrow though they will look mad..
Mr_Roberto
15-02-2009, 04:54 PM
is the engine trying to start? or nothing at all?
good work so far, well atleast you have a tidy engine bay :)
[TUFFTR]
15-02-2009, 04:55 PM
is the engine trying to start? or nothing at all?
good work so far, well atleast you have a tidy engine bay :)
Yeah its tryin' to start...hard to explain it. But yeah. Tuners will take care of that now.
Was a good day's work anyway...
RINGA///ART
15-02-2009, 05:38 PM
so once it fires up and is tuned etc, can it then be driven? Or is there other things that have to be done before this can happen?
wombat
15-02-2009, 05:58 PM
Maybe the weight of the paint on the engine is crushing the internals and they have seized?:P
Nah im only joking, good to hear its nearly starting, let the pros deal with it now.
[TUFFTR]
15-02-2009, 06:24 PM
Maybe the weight of the paint on the engine is crushing the internals and they have seized?:P
Nah im only joking, good to hear its nearly starting, let the pros deal with it now.
Umm ok.
Yeah RINGA - once it's dropped off and tuned it should be good to go! The just gotta get a wheel alignment and I'll probably swing past an engineering joint to make sure the car is 100%
Just gotta change an engine mount tomorrow/tuesday and Gotta change a power steering rack boot aswell, never done one of those before so hopefully thats easy.
Got one of the radiator mounts all polished looks MAD - Might make a few sets if anyone is keen? fairly easy to do....
GT-Pete
15-02-2009, 06:25 PM
Getting closer and closer now mate, you must be excited
grelise
15-02-2009, 07:21 PM
Mate, it's good to hear it's nearly there, for someone who never done this kind of conversion before, well done.
The motor trying to start is better than the motor not doing anything.
BTW have you sent that belt yet?
[TUFFTR]
19-02-2009, 08:06 PM
Nah I'll have it sent off next week i got tons of crap to do this week.
Changed the engine mount tuesday, nice and easy, also did both of the power steering rack boots, both were BUGGERED.
Now...if you need to change them
Mitsubishi - $60 per boot
Burson - $9
So yeah. Also to change drivers side boot the subframe has to come off (7 x 14mm bolts 5 min job)
to anyone with a 2nd gen reading now....Check your PS rack boots.....They are probably buggered like mine were.
Car leaves for the workshop on saturday morning :cool:
Just gonna give it a tidy up and wash tomorrow after work and thats it, next time she should be rollin' into my garage:cool:
Oh also got my MMC badge on the boot on and my 3.5L badges on the side "installed" hahaha
I'm excited as Big Kev would of said
Trotty
20-02-2009, 03:58 PM
']Oh also got my MMC badge on the boot on and my 3.5L badges on the side "installed" hahaha
I'm excited as Big Kev would of said
HAHA the MMC badge... was that mine... if so YAY Im part of the first 3.5 DOHC 2nd gen! wooooot!:bowrofl:
Sounds like its all comin together, if it was me i wouldnt be sleeping at night!lol
[TUFFTR]
21-02-2009, 05:05 PM
Car was dropped off today....
now we wait.
and yes that was your MMC badge which looks pimp
dimi108
21-02-2009, 05:14 PM
It's gonna be all good bro. We shall wait.
Keep us closely updated aye :D
[TUFFTR]
21-02-2009, 07:55 PM
It's gonna be all good bro. We shall wait.
Keep us closely updated aye :D
Good to see your still keeping an eye on this dude.
Yeah. I'm pretty pumped. But I Shiet you not I have done nothing all afternoon/night and tomorrow looks to be the same, without something to tinker with life is boring :(
You're more than welcome to come figure out why my trans stalls occasionally.
Really looking forward to seeing this one running.
Regards, Tony
[TUFFTR]
21-02-2009, 10:34 PM
You're more than welcome to come figure out why my trans stalls occasionally.
Really looking forward to seeing this one running.
Regards, Tony
Sorry mate I am far from a mechanic! I can do most things myself but diagnosis is not one of my strong points. I think you still better talk to mal for that one! :bowrofl:
I'll bring my car by tomorrow, that'll fill in a good 5-10 minutes of your tinker time using your auto-elec skillz to fix that dodgy headlight of mine :P
CAN'T WAIT to see you rock up at a meet in the tuffer than ever before TR, counting it down man! :badgrin:
MicJaiy
22-02-2009, 05:30 PM
']Car was dropped off today....
now we wait.
and yes that was your MMC badge which looks pimp
i can't believe i just read that :)
finally this thing we be going very soon!!
Josh'93TR
22-02-2009, 07:35 PM
Good stuff Paul! Cannot WAIT to see this thing in action...
[TUFFTR]
22-02-2009, 07:41 PM
Good stuff Paul! Cannot WAIT to see this thing in action...
Cheers dude!
Yeah, Not long now. Think I screwed up the fuel injector wiring but no-one could give me an answer on how to wire them up on this motor. Not even on the US 3000GT forums!
I think that's the problem, but I've told the shop that and they will work it out now.
Also got a few more cosmetic modifications lined up which should finish off the outside beautifully, I'll keep you all hanging on that front :)
ARS55
22-02-2009, 07:45 PM
I take it you tested your injector wiring using a noid light and not just a multimeter?
[TUFFTR]
22-02-2009, 07:51 PM
I take it you tested your injector wiring using a noid light and not just a multimeter?
Tested it using the software on the lappas to make sure they opened.
did not test with multimeter or noid light.
Mr_Roberto
22-02-2009, 07:58 PM
any idea on how long she'll be at the shop?
what are they actually doing there? finishing off the wiring and tuning?
[TUFFTR]
22-02-2009, 08:00 PM
any idea on how long she'll be at the shop?
what are they actually doing there? finishing off the wiring and tuning?
2 weeks roughly.
Yes, thats all and some very minor mechanical tasks which I didnt get down to doing.
After that once its running yes it will be tuned up, then I will tidy all the wiring up (don't need to pay them for something I am more then capable of) and start installing all my accessories, fog lights, 100/90's, air horns, gauges etc.
wombat
01-03-2009, 07:02 AM
It's nearly been 2 weeks, any word from the shop when its gonna be done?
Are you really un-employed?
lol This is in the 3rd gen section now:P
Rofl, thats a funny looking 3rd gen :)
[TUFFTR]
01-03-2009, 09:21 AM
It's nearly been 2 weeks, any word from the shop when its gonna be done?
Are you really un-employed?
lol This is in the 3rd gen section now:P
Actually it's been just over a week since I dropped it off, When I find out news, The you shall know, no news is good news :)
And nah, I only say I'm unemployed to make people think I've lost my job due to this crappy economic climate, in the hope I can get cash donations to further better off my situation.
MGNTZM
01-03-2009, 09:55 AM
I will give you a cash donation if you sell me that ralliart rim!
Type40
01-03-2009, 09:58 AM
lol This is in the 3rd gen section now:P
I was just thinking the same thing! lol
wombat
01-03-2009, 02:54 PM
']Actually it's been just over a week since I dropped it off, When I find out news, The you shall know, no news is good news :)
And nah, I only say I'm unemployed to make people think I've lost my job due to this crappy economic climate, in the hope I can get cash donations to further better off my situation.
Are you being sarcastic about losing your job or not?
It would be good news if they rang you up like right now and said hey, its ready, its running like a dream, we dynoed it and its making 321.3kws atws.
Cruiser
01-03-2009, 03:04 PM
lol This is in the 3rd gen section now:P
Third genners... always wanting credit for the big projects... :P
Lucifer
01-03-2009, 03:39 PM
TUFFTR works for me now, I am his pimp, he sells his body on the streets... He isn't making much money lol
MAD35L
01-03-2009, 04:14 PM
TUFFTR works for me now, I am his pimp, he sells his body on the streets... He isn't making much money lol
so youre makin 40% of **** all then?
[TUFFTR]
06-03-2009, 01:17 PM
Are we there yet! :cry:
Getting there. Starter motor Issue was resolved (well, it cranks now...) but one of my injectors had a wiring short, and as such has fried my crank angle sensor. So......now gotta buy one of these, ship it to them and wait! They are really close to getting it started which is awesome.
It's funny to see in this workshop, a maserati, a ferrari, Pulsar GTi-R, EVO's, GTR's, a 300ZX TT and the both of them are slaving over the TR Magna:bowrofl: pretty funny I thought:P
']Getting there. Starter motor Issue was resolved (well, it cranks now...) but one of my injectors had a wiring short, and as such has fried my crank angle sensor. So......now gotta buy one of these, ship it to them and wait! They are really close to getting it started which is awesome.
It's funny to see in this workshop, a maserati, a ferrari, Pulsar GTi-R, EVO's, GTR's, a 300ZX TT and the both of them are slaving over the TR Magna:bowrofl: pretty funny I thought:P
ha ha, should've got some pics.
NORBY
06-03-2009, 01:24 PM
its only because they know that the 300zx is gonna be a pain in the ass so they are putting it off
[TUFFTR]
06-03-2009, 01:26 PM
its only because they know that the 300zx is gonna be a pain in the ass so they are putting it off
Yeah man...has those...banana runnners....you know what I'm talking about....Damn that's a tight engine bay.
Madmagna
06-03-2009, 03:27 PM
CAS is the same as the third gen one mate from what I saw when I looked at your belt mate.
Grab one from any wreckers or come over for a drive, I can give you the one from my spare engine and you can grab another from the wreckers when you have one.
[TUFFTR]
06-03-2009, 06:51 PM
CAS is the same as the third gen one mate from what I saw when I looked at your belt mate.
Grab one from any wreckers or come over for a drive, I can give you the one from my spare engine and you can grab another from the wreckers when you have one.
oooooooooooooooooooo thanks for the offer man...........but I know Disciple is selling a brand new Mitsu one so I decided to buy that off him...It was very reasonable what he charged so I thought screw it I'll get a new one. (Not even close to the $200+ Mitsu want cheers Disciple)
Where are you living atm? I might still pop over and grab it as a spare.
']I might still pop over and grab it as a spare.
You know you're a Magna driver when you keep spares for newly replaced parts.
[TUFFTR]
06-03-2009, 07:15 PM
You know you're a Magna driver when you keep spares for newly replaced parts.
Oh I have a few spares. don't ask me how but I have a spare set of 6 iridium spark plugs. Can never have too many spares. :D
Its ok, I keep spares now.....
Will be taking a few of these on my interstate trip LOL
Ishrub
06-03-2009, 07:53 PM
Its ok, I keep spares now.....
Will be taking a few of these on my interstate trip LOL
So will I on my drive from Canberra to Adelaide, Darwin, Gympie, Brisbane and Sydney again this year. Bet I'm the only person who takes a spare radiator for kangaroo strikes. lol
wombat
16-03-2009, 02:23 PM
Any news?
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